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    RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

    I have sent a message to Sana on her facebook account in response to her allegations in her program.




    Sana,

    Pakistanis were astonished to see your vicious attack on PTI participant Omar Cheema in your program of 20th November 2011.

    Mr. Cheema may have been the immediate victim of your onslaught, but the intended target was in fact Imran Khan for uttering the name of Hussein Haqqani in his address on 30th October as the “senior diplomats” contacting Mansoor Ijaz.

    Your reasoning was based on the fact Mansoor has not divulge the name of the Diplomat until recently then who leaked the information to Imran Khan that the Diplomat in fact is Hussein Haqqani.

    You also pointed out that ISI chief General Pasha Meet MI on 22nd October in London and on 30th October Imran accused Haqqani to be the Diplomat involved. As a matter of fact the name of the Senior Diplomat is only disclosed by MI a week ago. You Implicated that Imran Khan must have got the news of Haqqani’s involvement from the establishment. It is a sinister accusation indeed. I beg to differ from your accusation; Imran Khan was not the first or only person to do a simple math 2+2 equals 4.

    The intensity and fervour shown by you indicated that you were treating it as a master stroke of your Journalistic career. There is an English proverb “ignorance is bliss”, the proverb fits you perfectly.

    The fact is it wouldn’t take a genius to work out who could be the “Senior Diplomat” in Washington close to President Zardari to take over such huge responsibility.

    If you look at present crop of Diplomat serving under this corrupt PPP Government two names stand out. One is Haqqani serving in Washington and the second is Pakistani High Commissioner to UK Wajid Shams-ul-Hassan. Mr. Shams-ul-Hassan was given the responsibility of guarding the important documents on a Switzerland’s street while the documents were loaded in to a van from a Lawyer’s office. Pakistani nation has seen the spectacle with their eyes. Therefore Pakistani nation knows the expertise of Mr. Shams-ul-Hassan. Similarly we are aware of the expertise of Mr. Haqqani. After all how can we forget him passing national policy secrets to the Americans when he was Pakistani High Commissioner in Sri Lanka?

    Working on the same logic Anjum Niaz in an article in “The News” wrote following paragraph on 15 October 2011,

    “Stop! Let’s brainstorm. Which US-based “senior Pakistani diplomat” was Zardari’s messenger? Haqqanis dwell not only in Waziristan but in Washington too! Sunday last a senior columnist’s article ‘Killing the messengers’ was in defence of our ambassador in Washington: “There is no general like Sahibzada Yaqub Khan to at least record dissent with the nation’s madness... Our self-made and well-read man in Washington, Husain Haqqani, probably comes closest... [he] continues to quietly persuade Americans to be patient with Pakistan and to plead with Pakistanis to understand the global power equation. But at home he is reviled frequently for not joining the ‘Crush America’ ghairat brigade.””

    Mr. Muhammad Malick in his article on 16th November,
    Commented and praised your “brilliant interview” of Mansoor Ijaz in your 13th November program on Geo.

    “Mansoor struck back hard at his detractors in Sana Bucha’s brilliantly incisive interview on Geo News. But even before this interview, Mansoor had already released to the media some damning evidence in the form of BlackBerry messages (BBMs) and emails, exchanged between him and the yet unnamed top Pakistani diplomat (The News, November 12). Though unnamed, virtually everyone in the power corridors knows the identity of this top non-career diplomat.”

    Sana, your own colleagues are making it clear everyone in the corridors of power knew the identity of this diplomat, well advance of Haqqani’s identification as the Diplomat in discussion by Mr. Mansoor Ijaz. Why do you think it was difficult for Imran to know the Identity of this top diplomat considering Imran is a hot property in Pakistani and to lesser degree in International Media? Don’t you think Imran engages with the electronic media and Journalists on regular basis, almost daily?

    But the issue of disclosure of facts in this case goes even further, let me show you more proofs from the writings of your colleague Mr. Malick, in his article of 26 October 2011 he wrote the following paragraph:

    “With the basics settled, the focus would shift to the memo’s contents. If the details trickling out are to be believed, we apparently do not have a gun but a smoking bazooka on our hands. The contents are so toxic that they could well float into the realm of treason. The memo supposedly has it all, including the promised change of security establishment (read: sacking of Kayani & Co). Even speculations about allowing nuclear security retooling, or American boots on the ground, are tantamount to political blasphemy, so imagine the devastating consequences when such offers are found written in black and white. “It’s an impossibly desperate dream menu rather than a memo,” says someone credible in Islamabad. Everything appears to be real, everything is now on the record. The problem, and the beauty of today’s digital existence, is that every little scrap of data gets preserved with the simple click of a key, instantly transforming seemingly inconsequential exchanges into key-evidence. One click and BlackBerries can turn into poison berries.”

    It is apparent that on 26th October Mr. Malick knew the contents of the MEMO, which was officially made available on 18th November to the media. Mr. Malick mentioned “the details are trickling out”.

    In the next paragraph Mr. Malick gave indication of the person involved without mentioning the name of Mr. Haqqani.

    “What happens in the larger context will perhaps languidly manifest itself, and over a stretched period of time, but what does appear imminent is that those aspiring for grander future roles could soon end up losing even their current lofty perches. And judging from the severity of circumstances, Islamabad should feel exceptionally relieved if the demanded ‘corrective measures’ stopped at this. But it remains a highly unlikely eventuality. It’s not as if the original ‘official’ messenger hasn’t been in the midst of some really dangerous situations in the past as well, but this time around he appears to have made the cardinal mistake of choosing the wrong ‘unofficial messenger’ for conveying his master’s potentially self-destructive message. And therefore penance will be his to pay, the cross for him to carry.”

    I should ask you who this “Official Messenger” is. Who had been involved in dangerous situations in the past as well? I bet Mr. Malick was referring to Mr. Haqqani without mentioning his name; Mr. Malick is referring to Haqqani’s treachery when he was Pakistan’s High Commissioner in Sri Lanka.

    In response to Farhatullah Baber’s denial on 30th October 2011of President Zardari’s involvement on the issue, Mansoor Ijaz on 31st October threatened to tell more truth and make more evidence available if Pakistani Civilian Government does not stop telling lies.

    There are many examples and evidence available that this was a hot topic in Pakistani and in international circles. Let’s recount the facts; a Pakistani journalist mentioned the name of Hussein Haqqani two weeks before it was uttered by Imran Khan. Mr. Malick has very good knowledge of the contents of the MEMO three weeks before it was officially published.


    I also advice you should watch Sethi’s program of 21st November, he told the audience, he knew well in advance through his singing birds that the diplomat in question is in fact Haqqani before Haqqani’s name was disclosed by MI.

    If you were actively involved on social networking sites, you would have known from the outset many people were making guesses on the identity of the “Senior Diplomat”. Many named Haqqani as the culprit well before Imran Khan did in his 30th October 2011 address to the gathering in Lahore.

    The problem is you were showing a bias attitude towards PTI, while ignoring the track record of PMLN’s involvement with the establishment. I don’t have to repeat the whole history, but we can easily search an old video on youtube of Mr. Nawaz Sharif addressing the press on the grave of General Zia-ul-Haq.

    We also heard the comments of Mr. Naji in your program. Majority of us have seen a video on youtube in which Mr. Naji shows his true class while blasting a young Journalist working for your own media group for asking questions on Naji’s acquisition of plots. Mr. Naji’s language and choice of words leave no room for imagination to know the reality of this degraded individual. We all understand the motives of most of our Journalists; they have to do the biddings of their political masters. But for heaven sake don’t make it too obvious. Leave a modicum of respect for yourself and for your profession.

    I leave it with a question to you personally and all other Journalists of your ilk, when are you going to investigate the allegations that Government machinery and finances are routinely used for PMLN’s gatherings and rallies. Don’t you think it is your Journalistic duty?
    Don’t let your biases cloud your judgement and don’t jump on the bandwagon of Imran bashing, quite popular with certain journalists at the moment. After all they have to earn their living which depends on extras or perks given to them by political parties.



    I can assure you I am not a PTI supporter or IK fan. But as a Pakistani Origin person, it is my duty to distinguish between right and wrong, there are many people like me who are not IK supporters but would like to see clean and good politicians take over in Pakistan. Current crop is rotten to the core and should be discarded by Pakistanis, if they want to see Pakistan prosper.

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    Re: RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

    Quote Originally Posted by Leftist View Post
    PTI bacha palty this is a manipulative strategy which will backfire. No one before 30th October took the name of Haqqani. Shuja Pasha met Mansur on 22nd October and leaked this news through Imran right wing nutter

    No one categorically took the name of Haqqani before 22nd October till 30th October.
    In which article did Malick highlight Haqqani's name ?
    On what date did Najam Sethi took Haqqani's name ? before or after 22nd October ? before or after 30th October ?
    This is for PMLN kids who are mushrooming all over the internet ever since Lahore Jalsa. I am not a PTI member nor am I a fan of Imran, but just a truth follower.

    Here is the link to Niaz’s article in the news:

    No smoke without fire - Anjum Niaz

    And this one for Mr.Malick’s article, where he is giving MEMO details on 26th October 2011, 3 weeks before it was made Public.

    The memo Epicentre - Mohammad Malick

    I do a professional job, not like your idiotic leaders who appear on the TV. Give me time with them; I would destroy them with cast iron guarantees. Your best brains are easy picking, in minutes they would be gone, with their foolish arguments and comments. You guys are lucky Pakistani Journalists are very lame, otherwise, no idiot or crook can survive. Pakistan is paying for incompetence of fools like Sana Bucha.

    Don’t worry PMLN supporters; I am getting something ready which soon would be published. I would post it right on your web sites, challenging your leadership starting from the top, i.e. the Sharif Brothers aka “Ganja Brothers” to foot soldiers. If any could answer my questions and provide the facts. Fake, cheats and thieves have no room in Pakistani politics anymore. It is the duty of every Pakistani to make sure all the thieves are history, no matter which party they belong to.


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    Re: Here's how come Imran told ppl about Hussain Haqqani on 30th october

    Quote Originally Posted by Leftist View Post
    Hehehe who admitted what ?
    He admitted all ....

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    Re: Here's how come Imran told ppl about Hussain Haqqani on 30th october

    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    PML-N is trying every cheap tactic to defame Imran Khan. But Allah is the biggest planner and success will be of the honest Imran - Inshallah
    How do you know that God is backing Imran right wing nutter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankthatskunk View Post
    This is for PMLN kids who are mushrooming all over the internet ever since Lahore Jalsa. I am not a PTI member nor am I a fan of Imran, but just a truth follower.

    Here is the link to Niaz’s article in the news:

    No smoke without fire - Anjum Niaz

    And this one for Mr.Malick’s article, where he is giving MEMO details on 26th October 2011, 3 weeks before it was made Public.

    The memo Epicentre - Mohammad Malick

    I do a professional job, not like your idiotic leaders who appear on the TV. Give me time with them; I would destroy them with cast iron guarantees. Your best brains are easy picking, in minutes they would be gone, with their foolish arguments and comments. You guys are lucky Pakistani Journalists are very lame, otherwise, no idiot or crook can survive. Pakistan is paying for incompetence of fools like Sana Bucha.

    Don’t worry PMLN supporters; I am getting something ready which soon would be published. I would post it right on your web sites, challenging your leadership starting from the top, i.e. the Sharif Brothers aka “Ganja Brothers” to foot soldiers. If any could answer my questions and provide the facts. Fake, cheats and thieves have no room in Pakistani politics anymore. It is the duty of every Pakistani to make sure all the thieves are history, no matter which party they belong to.
    PTI bacha palty this is no proof. Anjum speculated and Malick copied Mansur's article and quoted senior diplomat. Imran categorically blamed HH on 30th October.

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    Re: RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

    imran khan,the last hope for pakistan.
    save pakistan
    vote imran khan

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    Re: Here's how come Imran told ppl about Hussain Haqqani on 30th october

    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    He admitted all ....
    He admitted PTI bacha palty polishes the boots of GHQ!

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    Re: RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

    This girl is pretty but has a brain of Blond. I have pity on her husband

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    Re: Here's how come Imran told ppl about Hussain Haqqani on 30th october

    Quote Originally Posted by Leftist View Post

    PTI bacha palty this is no proof. Anjum speculated and Malick copied Mansur's article and quoted senior diplomat. Imran categorically blamed HH on 30th October.
    I think you have short memory, First you write,

    No one before 30th October took the name of Haqqani.
    Now when you are given the proof that someone did use the name of Haqqani 2 weeks before Imran used it.

    You changed your tone to this:

    Anjum speculated and Malick copied Mansur's article and quoted senior diplomat. Imran categorically blamed HH on 30th October.
    Heheh, Anjum didn’t speculate, he gave a whole paragraph showing the reasons why he is naming Haqqani. Secondly Malick also given the hints a child would understand, without saying the name of Haqqani.

    The details of the MEMO were given by MI 3 weeks after Malick accurately give the details of the MEMO.

    For your information Malick was dealing with this issue from the start, and he and his “the News” team had been in touch with Mansoor for weeks. Probably Mansoor contacted them being the biggest news group in Pakistan, so he can get maximum exposure in Pakistan.

    The point is it was a hot topic amongst Journalists ever since OPED by Mansoor was published in FT. Even one example is enough to prove the propaganda as a lie.

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    Re: RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

    Quote Originally Posted by A-shahid View Post
    Dont worry, the inveterate liars like you only enjoy molestations. So take that as a bonus!!!

    ہیلو ۔۔۔ ہیلو ۔۔ مسڑ مرزا ۔۔


    مرزا جی ۔ کدھر ہو ؟
    کچھ ادھر بھی ۔

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    great principles of left and its true virtues


    1) Proactive and Growth driven strategies.
    2) Emphasis on human rights
    3) Protection of minorities
    4) Equal rights for women
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    6) Moderation and rejection of all extremism
    7) Rejection of colonialism, imperialism and protectionism
    8) Unshakable belief in democracy, rule of law and constitution...

    And numerous others which will be spelt out later in the course of this thread.


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    In your kind of 'leftist' Pakistan, apologies would be reserved for shady and chimerical characters like HH. Boy, no wonder right wingers are pulling the rugs from under your feet.


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    پہلے لیفٹ کا مسلہ تو حل کر لیں پھر رائٹ کی خبر لیں گے ۔؟؟؟



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    Re: RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

    Quote Originally Posted by lllcolumbuslll View Post
    BACHA PARTY KA SANA BUCHA PER ATTACK.

    Wow beautiful picture...nice sharing!!

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    very well written, but bro there sence of distingushing between right and wrong has been taken away by the lust of dollars and the darkness of personal agenda over Pakistan....but no harm trying...

    Thanks

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    Re: RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

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    bilkul theek kaha...hum to KHAWATEEN k peechay parr gaye hain or MIAN NAWAZ SHAREEF, SHAHBAZ SHAREEF AND HAMZA SHAHBAZ to RAIWIND main khawaateen ki jamaat krwatay hain na.hahahahahaha

    AYESHA AHAD b to khatoon he hai dost..............usy o insaf do.

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    Re: RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

    Thanks for taking out time to write this But I hope you posted this letter with Urdu translation, she is not that good in english and She probably has some personal issues with IK.

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    Re: RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

    PML-NURA mardoon ki baraat loutney ke liyae HIJROON ki fouj appoint karna chour de tu inn ke halaat bi behtar hou saktey hain! Warney Almaas bobby jaisey jhoonkein innein lei dobein gi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaaf View Post
    Thanks for taking out time to write this But I hope you posted this letter with Urdu translation, she is not that good in english and She probably has some personal issues with IK.
    I still remember her column in which she said all political parties are not good and are mafias, then she talked about PTI and admitted their sincerity with Pakistan and in next line she wrote that PTI is not good at all. The problem with BURGER anchors is they think themself very wise and Aql e Qull. Few years back it wasn't easy at all to become a journalist or TV anchor and one has to spend his whole life in field to become a proper journalist. But this is the age of "Free and Fair Media in Pakistan" where anyone awakeup in the morning and come in front of camera and starts his/her baashan for the country.
    Another problem which few anchors are having is they want to get famous and they find it quite easy to target PTI and IMRAN KHAN as everyone love to watch PTI and IMRAN KHAN on TV screens! They also know that PTI is not a land grabing party, nor a mafia party and neither a terrorist party which make them comfortable to target PTI and KHAN without any proof and being tension free. WARNAA BAHI NUSRAT JAVED AUR ALTAF BAHI KI PHONE CALL WALA QISAA TU YAAD HE HOU GA SAB KO!

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    Re: RESPONSE to SANA BUCHA CHARGE IN HER PROGRAM : MESSAGE SENT

    itna bara answer parhnay ka kiss ke paas time hai
    pti walay sach baat sunn hee nahi saktay...
    whatever she asked was correct and reality.

    imran jab england mai tha tu uss ne sue ku nahi keea...
    abhi pakistan aa ker aaj siasat chamka raha hai aor logonh ko baiwaqoof banany ke nakaam koshish kar raha hai.
    exposed once again....

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