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    Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?


    Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?


    A most often asked question...Jamaat Islami should only preach Islam.They should never have come in politic...

    and another said by seculars JI watnts Islamabad not Islam


    A beautiful answer by Syed Abul Aala Maududi Rehmtullah



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    Re: Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?

    ye kuch ajeeb si mantaq hain ke power ho to kuch kar sake ge

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    Re: Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?

    @iamamuslim , Very true! However, Islam can be implemented on our individual lives withOUT Islamic government! But to change the whole society, its different.

    At the same time, we should not forget that society is made up of individuals. While it's not easy to get in power, its relatively easier to implement Islamic laws/rules on our own bodies. Once we individual become Mumin, our society will become too!

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    Re: Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?

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    @iamamuslim , Very true! However, Islam can be implemented on our individual lives withOUT Islamic government! But to change the whole society, its different.

    At the same time, we should not forget that society is made up of individuals. While it's not easy to get in power, its relatively easier to implement Islamic laws/rules on our own bodies. Once we individual become Mumin, our society will become too!
    JI has never said that indiviual should not be preached..

    First dawah to own families ,then society and then change system...This is the methodology which works

    But umlike only praeching, JI aims to change the system of state....

    Its nevr possible that 100% people become momin and system corrects itself...Neither Islamic History nor whole mankind history gives us any example that by just preaching, even of Prophet Muhammad SAW , 100% people were not changed....some people never accept the truth

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    with utmost respect to Maulana Modudi Raheemullah....that is the failure of Jamat-e-Islami!!!
    this is the moment when Jamat-e-Islami deviated from the right path to establish the Deen of Allah!

    This was the time when JI transformed from "Asooli Islami Inquilabi" jamaat to "Islampasand Jamhoori Siyasi" jamaat - and that is the difference, if u understand

    your aim is to establish the Deen of Allah that was done by Nabi Muhammad SAW, and you deviated from the way of Nabi SAW? and still thinking you will be successful - sorry!

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    with utmost respect to Maulana Modudi Raheemullah....that is the failure of Jamat-e-Islami!!!
    this is the moment when Jamat-e-Islami deviated from the right path to establish the Deen of Allah!

    This was the time when JI transformed from "Asooli Islami Inquilabi" jamaat to "Islampasand Jamhoori Siyasi" jamaat - and that is the difference, if u understand

    your aim is to establish the Deen of Allah that was done by Nabi Muhammad SAW, and you deviated from the way of Nabi SAW? and still thinking you will be successful - sorry!
    for me to comprehend what u are saying, i need little bit more elaboration on what u think how jamaat-e-islami should approach this and the difference between "usooli islami inqilabi jamaat" and "islampasand jamhoori siyasi jamaat"............i mean i can get an idea how u r trying to distinguish the two.....but can u plz elaborate it bit more??? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by romesa View Post
    how jamaat-e-islami should approach this and the difference between "usooli islami inqilabi jamaat" and "islampasand jamhoori siyasi jamaat"
    hmmm .... well, i think this is highly debatable subject... and in such things, nobody is at absolute right or absolute wrong.
    i am more inclined towards those with the opinion that our Deen as whole , our Deen as a complete social , economical and political system can not be established b participating in the kind of parliamentary democracy we have in our country.

    becoming a part of existing system, you could bring reforms in it. and this for what we all support one political party or the other.
    but with the politics of "jor tor", you cannot CHANGE the system COMPLETELY. and this is the definition of Inquilab where u replace the whole system. As an example, it seems next to impossible to demolish this "jageerdarana nizaam" or to demolish the Riba based economical system with the help of numbers and headcounts. when you dare to touch it, the beneficiaries would always join hands against you which makes it almost impossible to achieve it just with the number game.

    That "usooli islami inqilabi jamaat" and "islampasand jamhoori siyasi jamaat" thing was not mine, that is the phrase Dr Israr Ahmed used to use.
    The concept is, u cannot become part of the system rather u must challenge the system. so if u want to reform the system, that is fine what JI is doing...but if u want to implement the whole Deen of Allah as Muhammad SAW did, then u must follow the footsteps of Muhammad SAW as he preached the Inquilabi message of Quran and challenged the system of the times of Jahiliyyah.

    I wrote it earlier as well, that i do not support IK with the expectation that he could establish Khilafat-e-Rashida kind of system , rather i support him to bring reforms in the system. and i think the same for JI that if they are working for reforms than it is fine, but if their goal is to bring Khilafat-e-Rahisda ( which is more important in my eyes ) then i think their approach is not correct .. and as for your question , the approach should be to follow the footstep of Muhammad SAW. i.e. to struggle, struggle and struggle to form an Inquiilabi Jammaat capable of "challenging" the system and able to counter the forces acting against it...aur jab tak aisy jamaat nahi ban paati , tab tak ... STRUGGLE with this this goal in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yacir View Post

    That "usooli islami inqilabi jamaat" and "islampasand jamhoori siyasi jamaat" thing was not mine, that is the phrase Dr Israr Ahmed used to use.
    The concept is, u cannot become part of the system rather u must challenge the system. so if u want to reform the system, that is fine what JI is doing...but if u want to implement the whole Deen of Allah as Muhammad SAW did, then u must follow the footsteps of Muhammad SAW as he preached the Inquilabi message of Quran and challenged the system of the times of Jahiliyyah.
    Brother can u please Enlist the Inqalabi strategy whioch you think is Right and feasible????

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamamuslim View Post
    Brother can u please Enlist the Inqalabi strategy whioch you think is Right and feasible????
    well .. that is again my opinion, and my tilt towards the jamaat jinki philosophy/ideology se main kuch had tak ittefaq kata hoon.
    i will pm u

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    Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?


    A most often asked question...Jamaat Islami should only preach Islam.They should never have come in politic...and another said by seculars JI watnts Islamabad not Islam
    A much more relevant questions is 'Why JI cannot come into power' ??????????????


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    Re: Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by cancer View Post
    A much more relevant questions is 'Why JI cannot come into power' ??????????????

    A much much more relevant question would be "What the F has JI done when they were in power in Mushy era"??? ZILCH, Zero...except for bending over infront of Mush & passing 17th amendement
    PTI shuld avoid any sort of electoral alliance with these idiots...

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    Whenever you heard Modudi name. Everyone few time should say ~
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    Quote Originally Posted by vibrator View Post
    Whenever you heard Modudi name. Everyone few time should say ~
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    Quote Originally Posted by vibrator View Post
    Whenever you heard Modudi name. Everyone few time should say ~
    JI ki threads parh ker aik faeda zaroor hota hai k MQM k sarey log apni asli auqat mein nazar aa jate hein

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer View Post
    A much more relevant questions is 'Why JI cannot come into power' ??????????????


    Ans a slightly more relevant question is 'When will the people of Pakistan stop acting like a herd of sheep'?????

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    Re: Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?

    So that it can extort money and perks from shaddy characters like Younis Habib & co and fight maladramatic religious warfare at the behest of their Saudi, Egyptian and Lybian paymasters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer View Post
    A much more relevant questions is 'Why JI cannot come into power' ??????????????

    JI did come to power in the shape of MMA and failed so miserably to perform that people re-elected the good old corrupt ANP once again.

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    Re: Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?

    This is not the political process of Islam. This political process is corruption introduced by the slave master & the islamic parties blind-folded have participated in it, thereby strengthening this corrupted political basis of administration providing the parasite a solid foundation to survive. In the process, these islamic process have themselves been corrupted. This was a magnanimous mistake by maulana maududi (may Allah pardon his mistakes) and so many others incld. ikhwan of egypt. If you walk in mud, you will get dirty.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamamuslim View Post

    Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?


    A most often asked question...Jamaat Islami should only preach Islam.They should never have come in politic...

    and another said by seculars JI watnts Islamabad not Islam


    A beautiful answer by Syed Abul Aala Maududi Rehmtullah



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    Quote Originally Posted by aasimhameed View Post
    This is not the political process of Islam. This political process is corruption introduced by the slave master & the islamic parties blind-folded have participated in it, thereby strengthening this corrupted political basis of administration providing the parasite a solid foundation to survive. In the process, these islamic process have themselves been corrupted. This was a magnanimous mistake by maulana maududi (may Allah pardon his mistakes) and so many others incld. ikhwan of egypt. If you walk in mud, you will get dirty.
    brother can you tell me any other feasible strategy to implement Hudoodullah on this land?

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    Re: Why Jamaat Islami wants to come in Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by cancer View Post
    A much more relevant questions is 'Why JI cannot come into power' ??????????????

    A much more relevant question is "Why PTI couldn't come into power for last 20 years?" and one more question "Why PTI want to come into power with the help of used bullets of Musharraf?"

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    brother can you tell me any other feasible strategy to implement Hudoodullah on this land?
    Who cares for Hudoodullah in Pakistan?Leave it bro they are ashamed of being Muslims so how can they even give a room to Hudoodullah in Pakistan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu_Abdullah View Post
    A much more relevant question is "Why PTI couldn't come into power for last 20 years?" and one more question "Why PTI want to come into power with the help of used bullets of Musharraf?"

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    Who cares for Hudoodullah in Pakistan?Leave it bro they are ashamed of being Muslims so how can they even give a room to Hudoodullah in Pakistan?
    LOL!! It is OKEY to elect Musharraf in uniform and give him legitimacy by getting sucked into the wretched 15th amendment. In other words, you are proud to work directly for, with and on behalf of Musharraf but it is so sacrilegious and blasphemous to accept his few relatively clean companions.

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