Video Beware of this Fitna e Azeem (Dor e Hazir ka Dajjal)

Beware of this Fitna e Azeem (Dor e Hazir ka Dajjal) · 07-03-2009

Please see What type of Fitna this man is spreading.See how he is making fun of Islam and Respected Muslims in the history of Islam.

Lets Get united against such Dajjals.

1/9 -- FITNA-E-AZEEM -- "Muhammad Shaikh (IIPC)"

2/9 -- FITNA-E-AZEEM -- "Muhammad Shaikh (IIPC)"

3/9 -- FITNA-E-AZEEM -- "Muhammad Shaikh (IIPC)"

4/9 -- FITNA-E-AZEEM -- "Muhammad Shaikh (IIPC)"

5/9 -- FITNA-E-AZEEM -- "Muhammad Shaikh (IIPC)"

6/9 -- FITNA-E-AZEEM -- "Muhammad Shaikh (IIPC)"

7/9 -- FITNA-E-AZEEM -- "Muhammad Shaikh (IIPC)"

I request you all to please watch this!and Beware of such Clowns.

**Pakka Papi** · #2 07-03-2009

my God this is despicble, I am socked

**GraanG2** · #3 07-03-2009

I am happy that ur thread got approved...lemme watch the video and then comment

Naozubillah ....I am speechless...Does he still live in Karachi ??? Never heard of him before...I am surprised how has he survived so far???

**Pakka Papi** · #4 07-03-2009

Islam is the continuation from Adam to our Muhammad PBUH. Khatim an Nabi .. and the religion was also completed for sure. but denaying 4 books is blasphemy.
every book and commandments were the word of Allah and valid for given time but the following book replaced it.

believing in all books and Prophets is the must.

Pakka Papi added 16 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...

I am a sinful man but I cant bear to go through anymore and had to stop in the middle at his argument about Prophet Muhammad PBUH 's ma'raj ,. people who showed their suspician were kicked out of Islamic faith.

I couldnt dare to watch anymore of this. the basis of his agrument are flawed and based on his jealousy of the Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH. he definately belongs to a group of that clan of people who fought with the Prophet and his family throughout and accepted Islam just as a token but naver took it to heart.

I am sure that people here are far more versed in Islam and are in a very better position to understand and explain Ilsmic faith. please forgive me if I have not clarified myself any better.

but for me, the mere existance of the Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the whole reason for the existance of this universe. and it is our Belief in Him PBUH as a Holy Prophet PBUH and Chief of all Prophets and Messengers that makes us Muslims.

he is delibrately missing the point here and misleading the people. it looks like he would eventually conclude that there was no need of QUran and Muhammad as it was already coved in Bible and by Jesus. Allah forgive me.

**maxpk** · #5 07-03-2009

اس كودیكھنا اور سننا كیا جعز ھے وللہ علم???

**Our Time On Earth** · #6 07-03-2009

I just watched the first episode/ part, nothing seemed so alarming. All he is saying is that the book is this Qura'an which every prophet had with him (as). It was called different names but the contents were the same; which in older instances were probably the lost but now protected as Allah guaranteed it

**salmanzafar214** · #7 07-03-2009

mera sir Dard start ho gaya hay is ko Sun k .. man he dotn have ny logics just shhh ayen bayen shayennnnn

**GraanG2** · #8 07-03-2009

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Originally Posted by Our Time On Earth

I just watched the first episode/ part, nothing seemed so alarming. All he is saying is that the book is this Qura'an which every prophet had with him (as). It was called different names but the contents were the same; which in older instances were probably the lost but now protected as Allah guaranteed it

U wont understand what he is saying from only one episode ,Watch all the 7 episodes and see what he is trying to say...I think he should be eliminated like other murtadeens.

**Our Time On Earth** · #9 07-03-2009

Watched all of these now; well some of the stuff is a bit controversial but only from the point of view of prevelant practices. Well Allah created man with brain and allows him to use it. He can make mistakes in understanding something but if he is sincere seeker of the truth he will get round to the truth.

Some of his understaning might be far fetched but that can only be refuted by investing time and effort in understanding Qura'an and then coming back with a more logical answar. Our problem is that we can't be bothered to do that but jump on the band wagon to criticise someone we see diverging from mainstream mullah's understanding.

These clips have however have been put togather cunningly avoiding whole of the lectures (which would have helped understand his point of view and therefore refute him if need be) and with annoying commentry. It looks like some wahabi bigot was editing these videos.

What he is saying is more or less in line with Abdulla Chakeralvi, Ghulam Ahmed Pervez and and almost 60% of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi.

Our Time On Earth added 7 Minutes and 48 Seconds later...

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Originally Posted by GraanG2

U wont understand what he is saying from only one episode ,Watch all the 7 episodes and see what he is trying to say...I think he should be eliminated like other murtadeens.

Eliminating someone on the grounds of thinking different than you is indeed very Talibanic thinking. The one who thinks and gets it wrong is better than majority who lock their mental faculty away and look to priesthood (By the way don't condem me as Munker e Hadees because I am not)

**khan125** · #10 07-03-2009

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Originally Posted by Our Time On Earth

Eliminating someone on the grounds of thinking different than you is indeed very Talibanic thinking. The one who thinks and gets it wrong is better than majority who lock their mental faculty away and look to priesthood (By the way don't condem me as Munker e Hadees because I am not)

and if someone does not think as you do how can you call him talibanic thinking what would you say about your behavior by calling his thinking as talibanic.

By the way why are u trying to defend this guy?

**Our Time On Earth** · #11 07-03-2009

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Originally Posted by khan125

and if someone does not think as you do how can you call him talibanic thinking what would you say about your behavior by calling his thinking as talibanic.

By the way why are u trying to defend this guy?

I did not mean to put GranG down. I respect him, talibanic was actually thinking which does not tolerate anyone different than yourself, and calling them murtad and killing them.

I am not defending him, didn't know him untill now

**GraanG2** · #12 07-03-2009

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Originally Posted by Our Time On Earth

I did not mean to put GranG down. I respect him, talibanic was actually thinking which does not tolerate anyone different than yourself, and calling them murtad and killing them.

I am not defending him, didn't know him untill now

So basically u mean to say that Zardari ,rehman malik and others calling talibans as zaliman and dont agree with their mentality and killing them is also talibanic right ???Cos Rehman malik and others also calling them Kafirs ,murtads,zaliman etc etc,So their thinking is also talibanic...

Thanks for respecting me and my opinions.I respect u too and I understand what u are actually saying...So no hard feelings ...The issue is we see things differently but that does not necessarily means we dont agree with each other...Its good to have different opinions and debates...this way we come closer and have the opportunity to understand each other well...

I will just give a simple reason for why I dont agree with him (I dont care if someone calls me Wahabi,brelvi,shia or whatever,Cos I am none of them,I am a pure Muslim Alhamdulillah) is that he says I dont believe in Ahadeeth cos these are the words of a human being...We all know he is saying right that Muhammad PBUH was a human being But He was a prophet(messenger) of Allah Subhanahu wataala....Allah says in the Qur'an..."Qul in Kuntum TuhibbunaAllah ,fattabiuni ,yuhbibikumuAllah." means "O Prophet Tell them If you Love Allah,Follow what I say,Allah will love You." Sorry If it is more or less of the translation...So it means that if u want the raza of Allah ,u have to follow the sunnah and Ahadeeth as well...Ahadeeth are nothing but the tafseer of Qur'an...Saheeh Ahadeeth never contradict Qur'an...I can give a lecture on this for hours,But I know u dont agree with this Shaik guy either...But u are trying to say that what he is saying is his own understandings abt Islam...

May Allah Give us Hidaya and taufeeq to get onto sirat-e-Mustaqeem InshaAllah.PEACE

**DiL Dukhta hai** · #13 07-03-2009

guys your comments are enough sorry dont wana see this video ,

**asim99** · #14 07-03-2009

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Originally Posted by Our Time On Earth

Eliminating someone on the grounds of thinking different than you is indeed very Talibanic thinking.

a valid point...

**GraanG2** · #15 07-03-2009

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Originally Posted by asim99

a valid point...

Did u also see my reply ...I hope u would have said my point is a valid one as well if u had read it ...lol.

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