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    Turkey deployed forces to Syrian border!!!!
    Ankara deploys military convoy to Syrian border: Turkish media

    what the heck this so called Turkey's pro-islamic government is doing!!! doing the same foolishness we saw against the Gaddafi which gifted Libya to Zionists ... and now they are turned towards Syria!!! don't u realize u're playing into the hands of your enemies!!!!

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    Russia will inevitably be dragged into the conflict if it intensifies, and then some others like china maybe .... can be seen where the world is heading to!!!
    Syria will receive attack helicopters from Russia, Kremlin confirms | World news | guardian.co.uk

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    Turkey deployed forces to Syrian border!!!!
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    what the heck this so called Turkey's pro-islamic government is doing!!! doing the same foolishness we saw against the Gaddafi which gifted Libya to Zionists ... and now they are turned towards Syria!!! don't u realize u're playing into the hands of your enemies!!!!
    What about 20,000 citizens killed by Nusairi qadyani Bashar ul Asad? Even Muhammad Mursi ne bhi Bashar ul Asad ki janib se mubarakbad hasil krne se inkaar krdiya hai. Kisne kaha tha k Turkey ka jet tabah kro? Iske baap Hafiz ul Asad ne apne bhai Riffatul Asad k zariye 1982 me 27 days me 25,000 citizens ko qatal kiya tha ab baap k naqshay qadam pe beta chal raha hai sirf apni kursi bachaane k liye...what the heck is this? and u r showing sympathies for syrian government? Syria already zionists k haathon me hai middle east me Israel k defence ka kaam Bashar ul Asad kr raha hai aur isi Bashar ul Asad ki full support Iran krta hai jo ooper ooper se Israel k saath bayaanbaazi ki jang larh raha hai is munafiqat ki taraf koi nahi dekhta aur turkey ki government so called pro islamic hogayi.

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    What about 20,000 citizens killed by Nusairi qadyani Bashar ul Asad? Even Muhammad Mursi ne bhi Bashar ul Asad ki janib se mubarakbad hasil krne se inkaar krdiya hai. Kisne kaha tha k Turkey ka jet tabah kro? Iske baap Hafiz ul Asad ne apne bhai Riffatul Asad k zariye 1982 me 27 days me 25,000 citizens ko qatal kiya tha ab baap k naqshay qadam pe beta chal raha hai sirf apni kursi bachaane k liye...what the heck is this? and u r showing sympathies for syrian government? Syria already zionists k haathon me hai middle east me Israel k defence ka kaam Bashar ul Asad kr raha hai aur isi Bashar ul Asad ki full support Iran krta hai jo ooper ooper se Israel k saath bayaanbaazi ki jang larh raha hai is munafiqat ki taraf koi nahi dekhta aur turkey ki government so called pro islamic hogayi.
    yes, the same lame excuse and then hide behind the excuse and do whatever u like.......this same mentality will divide us and will benefit the enemy .. which is our COMMON ENEMY!

    mujhe na syrian government se koi smpathy ha na hi Bashar ul Asad ya uske KISI BHI BAAP se ... but i do not subscribe to this opinion ke isne ye zulm kia tou hum re zulm karaingay!!!!! Aur mere so called pro islamic kahna aapko kaafi bur lag gaya , but u overlook Turkey's SHAMEFULL alliance with NATO!!!!!!!!!! u want me to support any such alliance! wrong is wrong, and it will never become RIGHT no matter how many wrongs u compound together! ... chahe main karoon chahe tum, chahe Saudia Kare chahe Iran, chahe Syria kare hahe turkey

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    Russia will inevitably be dragged into the conflict if it intensifies, and then some others like china maybe .... can be seen where the world is heading to!!!
    Syria will receive attack helicopters from Russia, Kremlin confirms | World news | guardian.co.uk
    Yeah the third world war which is anxiously awaited by many people. By the way, Turkey ne sirf pressure daalne k liye Syrian border k paas military activity dekhaayi hai aur Turkey k pm ne saaf keh diya hai k hum jang kisi surat nahi chaahte lekin Syria ki taraf se dubara aisi harkat howi to sakht kaarwaayi krenge. Bashar ul Asad has to quit now. Ose ab jana hi hoga bohut masoomon ka khoon bahaa liya usne ooper se hai bhi non muslim(zra Nusairi firqay k aqaaid parh len kahin se) president of an Islamic country. On the other side...Egypt me confrontation k khadshaat dam torh gaye hain q k Muslim brotherhood aur Armed forces council k darmiyaan muzaakirat me armed forces council ne apni shart rkhi hai k Interior, Foreign and Defence ministry armed forces council k paas rahegi jise Muslim Brotherhood ne maan liya hai aur uske badlay me armed council Dissolved parliament ko restore krne pe raazi hogayi hai aur ailaan 2 din tk hojaayega. Ye 3 ministries council k paas jaane ka matlab ye hai k Muslim brotherhood filhaal is position me nahi hai k wo Israel k saath peace treaty ko alter krske aur agar Mursi ka president bnne k baad 1st speech suno to aap Muslim brotherhood ki siyaasi baseerat ki daad do ge so Misr filhaal kisi jang se abhi dur hai lekin Syrian president k jaane ka waqt baharhaal ab aachuka hai. Middle east me democracy ko hum zionists ki saazish samajhte hain aur apne mulk me democracy chaahte hain kya ye khula tazaad nahi hai? Zaruri nahi k Islamist groups k government me aane se agar america khush horaha hai to wo laazmi america ki saazish hogi...ab tk jo awaam pe musallat thay kya wo America k katputli nahi thay? kya dictators ko bs musallat rehne diya jaaye aur Islamist parties power me aaye to wo saazish hai isliye k wo foreign policies change krke Israel aur west k khilaaf jang ka ailaan krenge? Mere bhai kuch soch samajh kr hi unki awaam ne unhen elect kiya hai aur unke leaders me bhi itni political maturity zarur hogi k awaam kya chaahti hai aur foreign conspiracies ko jang k bajai politics k zariye handle krna hai. Jahan tk political systems ka taaluq hai to democracy me beshumaar khaamiyaan hai perfect system Caliphate hai jo Hazrat Mahdi k zahoor se pehle kisi tarah restore nahi hoskti ab. Sb se zyada fasaad ki jarh Saudi kingdom hai House of Saud jinka background hi angrezon k kandhon pe sawaar hoke iqtedaar me aana hai usse jaan churhaana dunya-e-Islam k liye bohut zaruri hochuka hai q k America ki hr saazish k peeche in saudis ki support hoti hai. Jahan tk Russia ki baat hai to Russia filhaal backdoor se weapons dene pe hi iktefaa krega saamne ki takkar lene ki position me wo bhi nahi hai abhi.

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    Yeah the third world war which is anxiously awaited by many people. By the way, Turkey ne sirf pressure daalne k liye Syrian border k paas military activity dekhaayi hai aur Turkey k pm ne saaf keh diya hai k hum jang kisi surat nahi chaahte lekin Syria ki taraf se dubara aisi harkat howi to sakht kaarwaayi krenge. Bashar ul Asad has to quit now. Ose ab jana hi hoga bohut masoomon ka khoon bahaa liya usne ooper se hai bhi non muslim(zra Nusairi firqay k aqaaid parh len kahin se) president of an Islamic country. On the other side...Egypt me confrontation k khadshaat dam torh gaye hain q k Muslim brotherhood aur Armed forces council k darmiyaan muzaakirat me armed forces council ne apni shart rkhi hai k Interior, Foreign and Defence ministry armed forces council k paas rahegi jise Muslim Brotherhood ne maan liya hai aur uske badlay me armed council Dissolved parliament ko restore krne pe raazi hogayi hai aur ailaan 2 din tk hojaayega. Ye 3 ministries council k paas jaane ka matlab ye hai k Muslim brotherhood filhaal is position me nahi hai k wo Israel k saath peace treaty ko alter krske aur agar Mursi ka president bnne k baad 1st speech suno to aap Muslim brotherhood ki siyaasi baseerat ki daad do ge so Misr filhaal kisi jang se abhi dur hai lekin Syrian president k jaane ka waqt baharhaal ab aachuka hai. Middle east me democracy ko hum zionists ki saazish samajhte hain aur apne mulk me democracy chaahte hain kya ye khula tazaad nahi hai? Zaruri nahi k Islamist groups k government me aane se agar america khush horaha hai to wo laazmi america ki saazish hogi...ab tk jo awaam pe musallat thay kya wo America k katputli nahi thay? kya dictators ko bs musallat rehne diya jaaye aur Islamist parties power me aaye to wo saazish hai isliye k wo foreign policies change krke Israel aur west k khilaaf jang ka ailaan krenge? Mere bhai kuch soch samajh kr hi unki awaam ne unhen elect kiya hai aur unke leaders me bhi itni political maturity zarur hogi k awaam kya chaahti hai aur foreign conspiracies ko jang k bajai politics k zariye handle krna hai. Jahan tk political systems ka taaluq hai to democracy me beshumaar khaamiyaan hai perfect system Caliphate hai jo Hazrat Mahdi k zahoor se pehle kisi tarah restore nahi hoskti ab. Sb se zyada fasaad ki jarh Saudi kingdom hai House of Saud jinka background hi angrezon k kandhon pe sawaar hoke iqtedaar me aana hai usse jaan churhaana dunya-e-Islam k liye bohut zaruri hochuka hai q k America ki hr saazish k peeche in saudis ki support hoti hai. Jahan tk Russia ki baat hai to Russia filhaal backdoor se weapons dene pe hi iktefaa krega saamne ki takkar lene ki position me wo bhi nahi hai abhi.
    Not many people - including me - like the Syrian government, but you got to understand the conspiracy (the reason) behind it (overthrowing of the Syrian regiem). If you do a little research of your own with a neutral(open) mind, you will discover mind boggeling truths (facts) behing it (the conspiracy). If successful, this one move - by the common enemy - could jeopardise many things (nations). I will end it at that.

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    yes, the same lame excuse and then hide behind the excuse and do whatever u like.......this same mentality will divide us and will benefit the enemy .. which is our COMMON ENEMY!

    mujhe na syrian government se koi smpathy ha na hi Bashar ul Asad ya uske KISI BHI BAAP se ... but i do not subscribe to this opinion ke isne ye zulm kia tou hum re zulm karaingay!!!!! Aur mere so called pro islamic kahna aapko kaafi bur lag gaya , but u overlook Turkey's SHAMEFULL alliance with NATO!!!!!!!!!! u want me to support any such alliance! wrong is wrong, and it will never become RIGHT no matter how many wrongs u compound together! ... chahe main karoon chahe tum, chahe Saudia Kare chahe Iran, chahe Syria kare hahe turkey
    Maana k Turkey NATO alliance ka hissa hai aur uskay 1800 army personals Afghanistan me mission pe hain lekin unhon ne abhi tk kisi military operation me hissa nahi liya wahan Human Resources k mission pe hai dusri baat ye k Pro Islamic government aane se pehle hi Turkey NATO alliance ka hissa hai aur Turkey ki secular army k nakhray poori tarah se khatam nahi howe. Pro Islamic government ka ye matlab nahi k iqtedaar me aate hi sb se larhai mol le jiske nateeje me ose boriya bistar gol krke iqtedaar se haath dhonay paray hikmat se kaam liya jaata hai. Isi Turkey ke Freedom Flotilla pe jb Israeli army ne raid kiya tha tb Turkey ka Israel k against reaction is reaction se bohut sakht tha jo usne Syria ko dekhaaya hai. Aur NATO k alliance ka hissa hone pe to hume ghussa shadeed aata hai lekin apni army jo k Non NATO ally hai america ki aur hmaari hi faraakhdili k nateeje aaj Pakistan waqai stone age me puhunch chuka hai aur Afghanistan me jo lakhon muslims ka khoon america aur NATO ne bahaaya hai usse zyada is gunaah me hmaara hissa hai ab kya Pakistan ki mukhaalifat shuru krden hum? akhir ghalat ko ghalat kehna chaahiye na. Ok let Bashar ul Asad to kill all his citizens jo kaam enemy ka tha wo ab Bashar ul Asad k haathon hoga.

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    Not many people - including me - like the Syrian government, but you got to understand the conspiracy (the reason) behind it (overthrowing of the Syrian regiem). If you do a little research of your own with a neutral(open) mind, you will discover mind boggeling truths (facts) behing it (the conspiracy). If successful, this one move - by the common enemy - could jeopardise many things (nations). I will end it at that.
    I know k kya conspiracy chal rahi hai yahi k middle east me democracy aaye Islamist parties power me aayen aur wo koi aisi harkat kren k jisse Israel aur west ko Islamic countries pe charh dorhne ki justification milay jaise 9/11 k pearl harbor jaise waqiye se America ko Afghanistan pe attack krne k liye justification mili thi. Ye apna plan bnaate rahenge but Allah is the Best Planner. But why are u sharing predictions of human beings kabhi zaid hamid aur ab ye...kya inhen ghaib ka ilm hai?

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    I know k kya conspiracy chal rahi hai yahi k middle east me democracy aaye Islamist parties power me aayen aur wo koi aisi harkat kren k jisse Israel aur west ko Islamic countries pe charh dorhne ki justification milay jaise 9/11 k pearl harbor jaise waqiye se America ko Afghanistan pe attack krne k liye justification mili thi. Ye apna plan bnaate rahenge but Allah is the Best Planner. But why are u sharing predictions of human beings kabhi zaid hamid aur ab ye...kya inhen ghaib ka ilm hai?
    I think you need to do a little more research. There is more to it than meets the mind...

    Why am I sharing predictions? Are they wrong? Do you NOT know that it is a branch of knowledge taught by prophet Idrees (AS)? Do you NOT know that there are many prophecies by many prophets about the end times and stuff? Did they have ilm-e-ghaib? Are you a Wahabi devoid of spirituality? Do you deny the Qur'an? Does God NOT reveal (BESTOW) beautiful poetry, all kinds of Arts, all kinds of science, and other types of knowledge to people through visions and dreams? God has his own way of communicating; if you don't believe in it, it does not mean that it is not true.

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    I think you need to do a little more research. There is more to it than meets the mind...

    Why am I sharing predictions? Are they wrong? Do you NOT know that it is a branch of knowledge taught by prophet Idrees (AS)? Do you NOT know that there are many prophecies by many prophets about the end times and stuff? Did they have ilm-e-ghaib? Are you a Wahabi devoid of spirituality? Do you deny the Qur'an? Does God NOT reveal (BESTOW) beautiful poetry, all kinds of Arts, all kinds of science, and other types of knowledge to people through visions and dreams? God has his own way of communicating; if you don't believe in it, it does not mean that it is not true.
    Lol foran wahabi ka label lag gaya. oh bhai Anbiyaa-e-Karaam A.S apni jaanib se koi info nahi dete thay. وما ینطق عن الھوی، ان ھو الا وحی یوحی ka kya matlab hai? Aur jahan ye kehta hai k "Hume bata diya gaya hai" ye typical revelation style hai aur revelation Anbiya-e-Karaam A.S pe hoti thi aur ye silsila akhri Nabi Huzoor SAWS k saath hi khatam hochuka hai.aur iski konsi prediction sahi prove howi hai ab tk? 2012 ka half bhi guzar gaya iske bataye howe kon kon se countries collapse howe hain ye wahan democracy collapse hone aur Sultanate aane ki baatein kr raha hai jb ke middle east me dictatorship collapse hoke ab kahin jaake democracy aarahi hai pehle khud to ghor se sun lo. aur plz ye hr kisi ko pand o nasaaih se na nawaza kren k tmhe research ki zarurat hai ye research sirf aap ne nahi ki howi blkay humne bhi ki howi hai.

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    Lol foran wahabi ka label lag gaya. oh bhai Anbiyaa-e-Karaam A.S apni jaanib se koi info nahi dete thay. وما ینطق عن الھوی، ان ھو الا وحی یوحی ka kya matlab hai? Aur jahan ye kehta hai k "Hume bata diya gaya hai" ye typical revelation style hai aur revelation Anbiya-e-Karaam A.S pe hoti thi aur ye silsila akhri Nabi Huzoor SAWS k saath hi khatam hochuka hai.aur iski konsi prediction sahi prove howi hai ab tk? 2012 ka half bhi guzar gaya iske bataye howe kon kon se countries collapse howe hain ye wahan democracy collapse hone aur Sultanate aane ki baatein kr raha hai jb ke middle east me dictatorship collapse hoke ab kahin jaake democracy aarahi hai pehle khud to ghor se sun lo. aur plz ye hr kisi ko pand o nasaaih se na nawaza kren k tmhe research ki zarurat hai ye research sirf aap ne nahi ki howi blkay humne bhi ki howi hai.
    Oh man... What world do you live in? After all this, you are asking me which countries have collapsed? I suggest you check the newspaper archives.

    The revelations that the prophets had (most of the time) were messages (directions) for mankind. These kind of revelations (Siufi kind of revelations) are no different from Istekhara or dreams magic or Qabala type of mysticism in which inter-dimensional communications (Jinnaat, Angels, Demons, etc) makes it possible for one to know things about the future. If you study mysticism, you will realize that it is quite possible to communicate with inter-dimensional entities. You can learn how to do it if you choose to do so and have the discipline to adhere to the very strict principle of it (mysticism) and do so responsibly. We can argue about whether one should do it or not, but know that it happens and it is an authentic, ancient form of knowledge (Idrees AS, Sulaiman AS, Moosa AS, Ibrahim AS, Yaqoob AS, ... and all the other AS). I will conclude by reminding you that all this knowlege was parted to mankind by none other than God the almighty himself (through Angels, Jinnaat, and Prophets).

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    Oh man... What world do you live in? After all this, you are asking me which countries have collapsed? I suggest you check the newspaper archives.

    The revelations that the prophets had (most of the time) were messages (directions) for mankind. These kind of revelations (Siufi kind of revelations) are no different from Istekhara or dreams magic or Qabala type of mysticism in which inter-dimensional communications (Jinnaat, Angels, Demons, etc) makes it possible for one to know things about the future. If you study mysticism, you will realize that it is quite possible to communicate with inter-dimensional entities. You can learn how to do it if you choose to do so and have the discipline to adhere to the very strict principle of it (mysticism) and do so responsibly. We can argue about whether one should do it or not, but know that it happens and it is an authentic, ancient form of knowledge (Idrees AS, Sulaiman AS, Moosa AS, Ibrahim AS, Yaqoob AS, ... and all the other AS). I will conclude by reminding you that all this knowlege was parted to mankind by none other than God the almighty himself (through Angels, Jinnaat, and Prophets).
    Ye sb apni jagah sahi hai lekin yahi bnda ye bhi keh raha hai k Imam Mahdi is the son of Imam Hasan Askari jbke hum jaante hain k Imam Mahdi k father ka naam Abdullah aur mother ka naam Amna hoga phir ye sb kya hai?

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    Ye sb apni jagah sahi hai lekin yahi bnda ye bhi keh raha hai k Imam Mahdi is the son of Imam Hasan Askari jbke hum jaante hain k Imam Mahdi k father ka naam Abdullah aur mother ka naam Amna hoga phir ye sb kya hai?
    Ignore that stuff... But what about the rest of it? You know that the Shia are experts in Ilm-e-Jafar - otherwise known as Jewish Qaballah - and it is a powerfull knowledge and it predates all of the modren religions. We may disagree with it, we may dislike it, we may condemn it, but it remains to be an authentic and powerful knowledge just like freemasonry (which actually uses a lot of Qabbalah too). These people are in touch with higher forces and know a lot of things that you and I don't. Believe me when I say that. I spent years researching this stuff and I almost went crazy as I learned more and more about it. More than anything, the Qur'an confirms it (the authenticity of the knowledge). Our mullas (ulema) don't tell us much about it and for the right reasons, but the truth is that such practices (Qabbalah & freemasonry) are very effective indeed and produce immediate and palpable results.

    Who are Zardari, Nawaz Sharif, Altaf Hussain, Musharaf, Kiyani, Malik Riaz, Shokat Aziz, Hafeez Shaikh, Rafiq Habib, Yousaf Raza Gillani, and all the others who are in power? They are all freemasons. Now a days, you cannot be in the power game unless you are a mason. There is a video on youtube about the Behria Town in Lahore, just check it out and you will know what I am talking about. You may find it hard to believe, but take my word for it for now.

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    Yeah the third world war which is anxiously awaited by many people. By the way, Turkey ne sirf pressure daalne k liye Syrian border k paas military activity dekhaayi hai aur Turkey k pm ne saaf keh diya hai k hum jang kisi surat nahi chaahte lekin Syria ki taraf se dubara aisi harkat howi to sakht kaarwaayi krenge. Bashar ul Asad has to quit now. Ose ab jana hi hoga bohut masoomon ka khoon bahaa liya usne ooper se hai bhi non muslim(zra Nusairi firqay k aqaaid parh len kahin se) president of an Islamic country. On the other side...Egypt me confrontation k khadshaat dam torh gaye hain q k Muslim brotherhood aur Armed forces council k darmiyaan muzaakirat me armed forces council ne apni shart rkhi hai k Interior, Foreign and Defence ministry armed forces council k paas rahegi jise Muslim Brotherhood ne maan liya hai aur uske badlay me armed council Dissolved parliament ko restore krne pe raazi hogayi hai aur ailaan 2 din tk hojaayega. Ye 3 ministries council k paas jaane ka matlab ye hai k Muslim brotherhood filhaal is position me nahi hai k wo Israel k saath peace treaty ko alter krske aur agar Mursi ka president bnne k baad 1st speech suno to aap Muslim brotherhood ki siyaasi baseerat ki daad do ge so Misr filhaal kisi jang se abhi dur hai lekin Syrian president k jaane ka waqt baharhaal ab aachuka hai. Middle east me democracy ko hum zionists ki saazish samajhte hain aur apne mulk me democracy chaahte hain kya ye khula tazaad nahi hai? Zaruri nahi k Islamist groups k government me aane se agar america khush horaha hai to wo laazmi america ki saazish hogi...ab tk jo awaam pe musallat thay kya wo America k katputli nahi thay? kya dictators ko bs musallat rehne diya jaaye aur Islamist parties power me aaye to wo saazish hai isliye k wo foreign policies change krke Israel aur west k khilaaf jang ka ailaan krenge? Mere bhai kuch soch samajh kr hi unki awaam ne unhen elect kiya hai aur unke leaders me bhi itni political maturity zarur hogi k awaam kya chaahti hai aur foreign conspiracies ko jang k bajai politics k zariye handle krna hai. Jahan tk political systems ka taaluq hai to democracy me beshumaar khaamiyaan hai perfect system Caliphate hai jo Hazrat Mahdi k zahoor se pehle kisi tarah restore nahi hoskti ab. Sb se zyada fasaad ki jarh Saudi kingdom hai House of Saud jinka background hi angrezon k kandhon pe sawaar hoke iqtedaar me aana hai usse jaan churhaana dunya-e-Islam k liye bohut zaruri hochuka hai q k America ki hr saazish k peeche in saudis ki support hoti hai. Jahan tk Russia ki baat hai to Russia filhaal backdoor se weapons dene pe hi iktefaa krega saamne ki takkar lene ki position me wo bhi nahi hai abhi.
    Partly agree with u... im not saying that the people who geniunly came out against the Mubarak were all zionists planeted ppl! no, they are our brothers ans sisters who had been oppressed by all the illegitimate rulers whethe it be Mubarak or Syria's Bashar Al Asad .... balke main tou aap ko yeh kah raha hoon ke inko oppress kia hi planned tareekay sa tha so that the tolerance level would bypass the threshold at some point of time ... aur aik choti si maachis pooray jungle ko aag laga de .. this is what happened when it all started in Tunisia. jo un per musallat thay wo bhi saazish hi thi ... aur achanaka saare planted agents ko dump karna bhi kisi game plan se kam nahi hai!

    Aur rahi baat democracy ki .. tou bhai is main koi tazaad nahi hai. jo cheez ghalat hai wo ghalat hai....main kisi soorat bhi [western] democracy ka supporter nahi hoon....chahe wo kisi bhi mulk main ho. Pakistan main sirf "objective Resulution" hai jo mujhe isko haraam samajhne se thora ahtiyaat baratti hai .. otherwise i completely and absolutely dimssmiss the western democracy as shirk and haraam ... hope i made my poit clear.

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    Re: Unbelievably True Predictions for 20212 & Democracy (the world over) by Grand Sufi Shaikh Nazim

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    Maana k Turkey NATO alliance ka hissa hai aur uskay 1800 army personals Afghanistan me mission pe hain lekin unhon ne abhi tk kisi military operation me hissa nahi liya wahan Human Resources k mission pe hai dusri baat ye k Pro Islamic government aane se pehle hi Turkey NATO alliance ka hissa hai aur Turkey ki secular army k nakhray poori tarah se khatam nahi howe. Pro Islamic government ka ye matlab nahi k iqtedaar me aate hi sb se larhai mol le jiske nateeje me ose boriya bistar gol krke iqtedaar se haath dhonay paray hikmat se kaam liya jaata hai. Isi Turkey ke Freedom Flotilla pe jb Israeli army ne raid kiya tha tb Turkey ka Israel k against reaction is reaction se bohut sakht tha jo usne Syria ko dekhaaya hai. Aur NATO k alliance ka hissa hone pe to hume ghussa shadeed aata hai lekin apni army jo k Non NATO ally hai america ki aur hmaari hi faraakhdili k nateeje aaj Pakistan waqai stone age me puhunch chuka hai aur Afghanistan me jo lakhon muslims ka khoon america aur NATO ne bahaaya hai usse zyada is gunaah me hmaara hissa hai ab kya Pakistan ki mukhaalifat shuru krden hum? akhir ghalat ko ghalat kehna chaahiye na. Ok let Bashar ul Asad to kill all his citizens jo kaam enemy ka tha wo ab Bashar ul Asad k haathon hoga.
    yahaan i completely disagree with you!. it does not matter at all if ther participate in any military operation or not. with my little understanding, Allah SWT has cursed those who becomes the "part" of such jewish/christian alliance [and NATO is precisely that]. and if u say that
    >> "Pro Islamic government ka ye matlab nahi k iqtedaar me aate hi sb se larhai mol le jiske nateeje me ose boriya bistar gol krke iqtedaar se haath dhonay paray hikmat se kaam liya jaata hai"
    then i have no words for this justification!!!! Hikmat against the clear ahkaam of Allah SWT ... NO WAY!

    >> "ab kya Pakistan ki mukhaalifat shuru krden hum?"
    WHY NOT?????? bhayee Pakistan ko konsay gunaah maaf hain??????? Pakistan ki mukhalifat nahi tou aur kia kar rahe hain hum????? itnay saloon se is so called "war on terror" ki policy per mukhalifat nahi kar rahe hain tou aur kia hai ye???

    the same way I show my absolute rejection to any excuse that Turkey might have in favor of NATO , I absolutely condemn and curse the civil and military leadership who are still keeping pakistan into this American led alliance of this war on Islam.

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    Re: Unbelievably True Predictions for 20212 & Democracy (the world over) by Grand Sufi Shaikh Nazim

    These Mullahs don't even know if they are going to have their next urine stream properly (Enlarged Prostates). How could they even know what will happen in 2011 or 2012. It is Allah's physical law that HE has concealed the future from all of us. Imgine if we knew our future, would we be able to live our present peacefully? Those who believe that some human knows the future, is infact challenging Allah's physical law. Again I would not be surprised because the land of the pure is full of those idiots.

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    Re: Unbelievably True Predictions for 20212 & Democracy (the world over) by Grand Sufi Shaikh Nazim

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    These Mullahs don't even know if they are going to have their next urine stream properly (Enlarged Prostates). How could they even know what will happen in 2011 or 2012. It is Allah's physical law that HE has concealed the future from all of us. Imgine if we knew our future, would we be able to live our present peacefully? Those who believe that some human knows the future, is infact challenging Allah's physical law. Again I would not be surprised because the land of the pure is full of those idiots.
    Well he is from Cyprus and is a Sufi not Mulla...and Come out of this Mullaphobia otherwise raise ur standard, get enough Islamic education and take over the Masaajid.

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    Ignore that stuff... But what about the rest of it? You know that the Shia are experts in Ilm-e-Jafar - otherwise known as Jewish Qaballah - and it is a powerfull knowledge and it predates all of the modren religions. We may disagree with it, we may dislike it, we may condemn it, but it remains to be an authentic and powerful knowledge just like freemasonry (which actually uses a lot of Qabbalah too). These people are in touch with higher forces and know a lot of things that you and I don't. Believe me when I say that. I spent years researching this stuff and I almost went crazy as I learned more and more about it. More than anything, the Qur'an confirms it (the authenticity of the knowledge). Our mullas (ulema) don't tell us much about it and for the right reasons, but the truth is that such practices (Qabbalah & freemasonry) are very effective indeed and produce immediate and palpable results.

    Who are Zardari, Nawaz Sharif, Altaf Hussain, Musharaf, Kiyani, Malik Riaz, Shokat Aziz, Hafeez Shaikh, Rafiq Habib, Yousaf Raza Gillani, and all the others who are in power? They are all freemasons. Now a days, you cannot be in the power game unless you are a mason. There is a video on youtube about the Behria Town in Lahore, just check it out and you will know what I am talking about. You may find it hard to believe, but take my word for it for now.
    From this perspective, Black magic is also a v effective knowledge and is strictly forbidden in Islam. I meant to say that not every knowledge is permissible and justifiable. Freemasonry knowledge is satanic.

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    If I am bashing these "Super Humans" then I am certainly not phobic of their existance. What I am afraid is the fungus that they spread which clutters the minds of average humans and then they can not think straight. The only Mullah, Sufi or Imam I believe in is the Imam of Prophet Muhammad PBUH. I hope you know who HE is.

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