Capital Talk with Hamid Meer 5th June 2008

Today there are no guest on the show ..

the host is on the streets of pakistan and asking the people what they think of how things are so expansive


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[commoner]

Streets tell if something positive does not happen quick Pakistan may soon erupt or should I say implode. Political historians will underline Iftekhar Chaudhary's nikki sari NO as the event which marked the point of change, it is not something which triggered the change but it will be marked as the onset of people's tsunami but not its cause. Its causes lies else where such as exponentially multiplying population with concomitant increase in poverty and jihalat and the media revolution, a Uni polar world and the portrayal of Islamic extremism as the ultimate evil replacing communism by the west.

[HAIDER1]

Pakistani people should stop whining and complaining and should start hardship. Otherwise out country will be like Afganistan. First mullahs should be leashed very well. Mullah is the most pessimistic creature among muslims. Totally against development and against learning new tools of human welfare.

[Silent Assassin]

Originally Posted by HAIDER1

Pakistani people should stop whining and complaining and should start hardship. Otherwise out country will be like Afganistan. First mullahs should be leashed very well. Mullah is the most pessimistic creature among muslims. Totally against development and against learning new tools of human welfare.

When you say something you should be more clear about it, as in the video the other guy said "Her darhi wala dehshat gerd nahi hota". Stop with that BS MULLAH thing which you guys made up out of nowhere.

Some Siyasi mullahs do not represent all those who are SCHOLARS and even Phds. Stupid Jahil people like you bring up the WESTEREN terminologies and ideas like MULAHS and MADERSAS are the cause of terrorism.

[HAIDER1]

Do we see any Phd suicide bomber ?.....O plzz...read the message, its masses need to move. Look at neighboring India or China or Turkey, where are we ?

[Silent Assassin]

Originally Posted by HAIDER1

Do we see any Phd suicide bomber ?.....O plzz...read the message, its masses need to move. Look at neighboring India or China or Turkey, where are we ?

Suicide bomber did you ever check the causes, why they do that. Whats the purpose or why they even doing it in PAKISTAN?

You wanna look at neighbors none of our neighbors are doing operation against our own enemy. As they said if there was any problem in Pak-Afghan Border side then why USA or NATO forces are not fighting in the Afghan side of Pakistani border? Why theres nothing going on that side and everything is on this side?

[HAIDER1]

EXACTLY....non is doing operation, because govt has support of masses.(but don't forget 80,000 missing Kashmiri, thousand of Ugher Chinese muslim missing) We have four different culture and four different separatist movement. But is Afghan war is our problem ?. What ever Afganies are doing let them do. Are responsible of their freedom?. We forgot these Afgan provide airbases to Indian during 65. They still hate Pakistani, call pakistani are the porblem in Afganistan. How much Pakistan did for them for their freedom.
Who likes us ?.....nobody...then why these tribes use Pakistani land for the launching pad and create problem for average Pakistani.

[Silent Assassin]

Originally Posted by HAIDER1

EXACTLY....non is doing operation, because govt has support of masses.(but don't forget 80,000 missing Kashmiri, thousand of Ugher Chinese muslim missing) We have four different culture and four different separatist movement. But is Afghan war is our problem ?. What ever Afganies are doing let them do. Are responsible of their freedom?. We forgot these Afgan provide airbases to Indian during 65. They still hate Pakistani, call pakistani are the porblem in Afganistan. How much Pakistan did for them for their freedom.
Who likes us ?.....nobody...then why these tribes use Pakistani land for the launching pad and create problem for average Pakistani.

Either you did not read what I wrote or you did not understand what I wrote.

I talk about Afghanistan there because they are saying that Pakistan side people are coming up and creating problem in Afghanistan this is why your leader Musharraf attacked waziristan. Now if they were doing it then there would have been a problem close to the border in Afghanistan no?

And about suicide bomber when someone have no option then thats what they do and being a Pakistani you should know the mentality of Pakhtoons in that area. So if you are saying that why we care about Afghanistan then you should go up and tell that to Musharraf that why we care if someone create problems for Afghanistan why we attacked Waziristan.

[82ROCKER]

How much Green Staff . ( Dollars ) did uncle Musho got for Attacking Waziristan just to make uncle Sam Happy ...

[HAIDER1]

talk about Afghanistan there because they are saying that Pakistan side people are coming up and creating problem in Afghanistan this is why your leader Musharraf attacked waziristan. Now if they were doing it then there would have been a problem close to the border in Afghanistan no?

And about suicide bomber when someone have no option then thats what they do and being a Pakistani you should know the mentality of Pakhtoons in that area. So if you are saying that why we care about Afghanistan then you should go up and tell that to Musharraf that why we care if someone create problems for Afghanistan why we attacked Waziristan

Its not question of my leader or your leader, all Pakistani leaders and emerging parties except PPP founded in GHQ, we all know very well.
As far as Waziristan issue,Who is more powerful on both side of border?. Pashtun nationalism on both side of border?. Do they gave govt of Pakistan any option. If govt tell them not to use Pak territory for launching pad do they stop?(thousand of Jirgas called, end result big "no".. Can we face American might ?. When whole world pointing fingure at us? Can we live in total isolation ?...
When govt of Pakistan stop them, do they let army alone ?...
We see we deny...
Whoever is in govt , Mushi, Nawaz or Zardari....govt should be powerful and no tolarence...Is same govt rit applied today 24 years ago in Golden Temple, India.
Remember their is nothing call muslim brotherhood, travel whole middle east and tell em u r Pakistani and feel the heat and treatment. NATIONALISM. We Pakistani should adopt the same way,otherwise rest of whole life middleastern keep us calling miskeen and afghans keep on selling drug and Klashankov in MY Pakistan.

[Silent Assassin]

Originally Posted by HAIDER1

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Its not question of my leader or your leader, all Pakistani leaders and emerging parties except PPP founded in GHQ, we all know very well.
As far as Waziristan issue,Who is more powerful on both side of border?. Pashtun nationalism on both side of border?. Do they gave govt of Pakistan any option. If govt tell them not to use Pak territory for launching pad do they stop?(thousand of Jirgas called, end result big "no".. Can we face American might ?. When whole world pointing fingure at us? Can we live in total isolation ?...
When govt of Pakistan stop them, do they let army alone ?...
We see we deny...
Whoever is in govt , Mushi, Nawaz or Zardari....govt should be powerful and no tolarence...Is same govt rit applied today 24 years ago in Golden Temple, India.
Remember their is nothing call muslim brotherhood, travel whole middle east and tell em u r Pakistani and feel the heat and treatment. NATIONALISM. We Pakistani should adopt the same way,otherwise rest of whole life middleastern keep us calling miskeen and afghans keep on selling drug and Klashankov in MY Pakistan.

OH so you woke up now, Good Morning! Seeling drugs and kalashenkovs lol who brought them here ? Zia?

Give me a simple answer Who attacked first We did in Waziristan or We got the Suicide Bombings and then we attacked Waziristan?

Its a very simple question do check your facts before answering to this. The Arabs are the most backward people in the whole world i dont even care about arabs they are simply morons living on OIL and air conditions and starving the whole Muslim ummah cus of their stupid moron bin Laden.

We did not stand on our interests Musharraf did not stand on Pakistan's Interest, It was not in our interest to attack our own people. It was not in our interest to go further in the war on terror yes at 9/11 it was a good decision but we went further in it which brought nothing but BLOOD.

[HAIDER1]

I woke way before you. During my transit in middle east. So how govt apply its rit in Waziristan? talk to them and tell them boyz don't do that, don't interfere in the matters of other sovereign state, its non of our business? ....or Pak govt bent down to their knees and let them do what ever they wanna do and celebrate their victory over govt of Pakistan so rest of group follow the same foot step ?.......

We did not stand on our interests Musharraf did not stand on Pakistan's Interest, It was not in our interest to attack our own people. It was not in our interest to go further in the war on terror yes at 9/11 it was a good decision but we went further in it which brought nothing but BLOOD.

Well Mushi is not save, they attack him right after 911 three times. If leader of the country is not save. What are the chances of safety of common people from same clan of people. Living example of LalMasjid they linger six months, every day challenge govt rit. Everywhere in the world,every country news media making fun of Pakistani govt. Few extremist element sitting right in the middle of capital challenging govt rit ?????????....How it feels for govt.
Its same when I was pakistani i had exactly same feeling but when i been out of country i realize, Pakistan is not whole, Pakistan exist somwhere in whole world. We can t ignore the opinion of our friends and foes, specially those who are economically and lobby wise more powerful.

[NoToRi0uS]

there is no question about it that we are fighting a war of USA at our soil..
& what we are getting back ??

[HAIDER1]

here is no question about it that we are fighting a war of USA at our soil..
& what we are getting back ??

small countries have no totally independent policy when surrounded by regional powers. mouse has to hold elephant tale to cross the water.

[NoToRi0uS]

they can...
then say it clearly to nation that we don't need atom bomb etc & do a accord with a strong nation
then why all this drama ??

[HAIDER1]

truth and emotion two different things. Japan has no atom bomb, but after all advancements still biggest ally of US. Same with Germany economic power of EU.