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womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

Assalama -e-lekum
Me ye soch rahi thi socha app se rayy lety ke
"womens par hi zulamm kio hote ""or gents par kio nahi??
1)kio batte sunty he logo ki
-kabhi bhai se ,kabhi bapp se ,kabhi shor se,kabhi bate se
2)pese nahi to orat ka kassor ke jehezz nahi lai
3)beta nahi hua to orat ka kassu
4)husband ka rawaiya theak nahi to orat ka kasuur
5)orat hi kio maaar kahty he
6)kio orat hi kio jalty he
apke kiyal me iss ka zimmedar kon he????
par har jaga orat ka to kasur nahi hota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
phir esa kio?????
kiya kudd oratt???
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

Wa Alikum Asalam

Ikrash ye ap se kis ne kaha Men pe Zulam nahi hote ?

jitne khudkush bomb dhamakay hote hain 100 Mard martay hain tu 2 Aurtain

her jagha road pe Laarrai hoti hai zakhmi kon hota hai Mard

koi zalzala Ata hai 40 mard martay hain tu 5 aurtain

tu pahli baat k ye baat sahi nahi k Serf Aurton pe he zulam hota hai

baqi agar ap ki baat ki terf aain tu Aurat pe zulam ki zumidaar Aurat he hai

kabhi saas k roop mein kabhi baho k roop mein kabhi sotan k Roop mein

so hum becharay Mard beqasoor hain
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

Meer bhai me domestic violence ki baat kar rahi thi sorry me specefisce karna bol gai
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

Haan Jee bohat zulam hota hey. ur wahan wahan zeyada hota hey jahan mulims states hein. us ki main reason keh Islam ne jitti aazadi di hey mard ur oorat ko. donon ko hi nhi pata. mard bhi apni had se bahir chala jata hey. ur oorat bhi. mujhe kehne mein koi sharam nhi hey keh mard zeyada apni hadod cross ker jate hein. her chiz ko apne under laane ki koshish kerte hein. wo chiz bhi jis pe donon ka haq hota hey. ur jub oorat apne haq k liye awaaz uthati hey to mard se yeh berdasht nhi hota. ur wo us ki awaz ko dabane k liye kuch bhi kerta hey.

mard chahe kis roop mein bhi ho wo kisi ko apne braber laane ko teyar nhi hota. so yehi asal wajah hey keh
1) Islam ne jo hadood final ker di hien donon hi ko un hadood ke bare mien sahi ilam nhi hota
2) donon hi un hadood ko cross kerne ki kohsish kerte hein. ur kerte bhi na-samjhi mien hein. kionkhe un ko nhi pata hota keh kahan tak had hey un ki.

Note) mien ne majority ki baat ki hey. wagerna sub baraber nhi hote. mien bhi unhi logon men se hon jis ko sahi hadood ka nhi pata.
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

mera khayal hy k aurat ko sub sy pehly ghar mein yani maa baap k ghar mein choti choti baton pe degrade kia jata hy ta k wo aglay ghar ja kr apnay haq mein b awaz na uttha saky or apna ghar susraal walon ki chakri or zulim o sitam bardasht kr k guzar saky laqin mera khayal hy jo larkian M.A kar lein or gender descrimination ka subject parh lein to phir ulti naddia behti hy or jo ye illan karty hein k aurat ka awaz utthana bardasht nai karty wo b gutnay taiktay nazar aty hein keon k parhi likhi aurat ko apny rights ka poora poora pata hota hy k kaisy lainy hein
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

i m agree with you abhidaawan & silly also
mere kiyal me in sab zulmo ki zimedar kud orat he kioke wo kass mukaam par akar wo womens ko bhot hakar nazar se dekty he ye nahi sochty ke jo mere sath hua wo phir kisi ke sath na ho.
sab se orat ko kudd orat ki izat karny chaie
mere kiyall me jabb beta peda hota he to logg usse puri zindaghi ki property samgte he ke hume kelaee ga jabb older age me aeeghe,humara ghar bhar jaee ga jabb shady ho ghe ,humari nasal chale ghe or waghera waghera jab ke ye nahi sochte ke in ki acchi parwarish kare har mukamm me betho ko aghe rakha jata he chae koi bhi medan ho.
lekin mere kiyal me jitny kidmat bethi maam bap ki kar sakty he utni koi nahi kar sakta phir bhi beti ko peda hote hi bogg samagne lagte he logg ,jabb ke maa bap ke janaze takk ki zenat beti kehlaii jaty he.
hum logg wo sary bate islam ki mante he par wo bate yaad nahi rakte ke jo pasan na hon
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

WalakiumSalam
Nice Topic Indeed But you are wrong overhere.
Ye theek hai k Ziyada tar zulam ka ziyada shikar Aurat hoti hai, likin Mard b is se mehfooz hargiz nahi hai
Zulam to mard per b hota hai, ye aur baat k hamdardi hamesha aurat k haq main ziyada time jati hai...youn samj lain k jis ka pal'ra bhari ho jai'e, jo ziyada tar ba'asr mardon ka ho jata hai likin same baat jab aurat intqam per uter aai'e to b there is no good.

Boht Saray cases main Aurat as'tehsal ka shikar hai, jo k qabl-e-maafi Jurm hai...Dunya ka koi qanoon aisi inhumane harkaat ki ijazat nahi daita...
Likin Zulam aik jins per nahi dono per rokna zarori hai...cz blame somehow can be equalized...

Is topic per hours beh's ho sakti hai jis k liye boht saray time ki zarort hai is liye i just do not want to go to the details.

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WalakiumSalam
Nice Topic Indeed But you are wrong overhere.
Ye theek hai k Ziyada tar zulam ka ziyada shikar Aurat hoti hai, likin Mard b is se mehfooz hargiz nahi hai
Zulam to mard per b hota hai, ye aur baat k hamdardi hamesha aurat k haq main ziyada time jati hai...youn samj lain k jis ka pal'ra bhari ho jai'e.

Is topic per hours beh's ho sakti hai jis k liye boht saray time ki zarort hai is liye i just do not want to go to the details.

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Meer bhai me domestic violence ki baat kar rahi thi sorry me specefisce karna bol gai
well Ikrash..if u talk generally about it, in western countries..men face the same kinda d. violence in our societies women face. so, world per baat rakh ker kerne main b be'shak women sabqat le jati hai aise muzal'am main no doubt...but asool ki baat karain to no one is safe !!!
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Assalama -e-lekum
Me ye soch rahi thi socha app se rayy lety ke
"womens par hi zulamm kio hote ""or gents par kio nahi??
1)kio batte sunty he logo ki
-kabhi bhai se ,kabhi bapp se ,kabhi shor se,kabhi bate se
2)pese nahi to orat ka kassor ke jehezz nahi lai
3)beta nahi hua to orat ka kassu
4)husband ka rawaiya theak nahi to orat ka kasuur
5)orat hi kio maaar kahty he
6)kio orat hi kio jalty he
apke kiyal me iss ka zimmedar kon he????
par har jaga orat ka to kasur nahi hota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
phir esa kio?????
kiya kudd oratt???

Assalam-o-Alikukm WR WB ,

Aap nay jo sawal uthya hay aur jis trha aap nay Domestic Gharo ki baat ki hay to mai aap ko ya bata doon k ya saray kaam low level gharo mai hi mai nay dekhy hy , kisi Khandi aur Parhy likhy gharo mai asa nahi hota hay .

1st - Jo Aurat ya khy k Bhai ki batain sunti hoon , Baap ki aur Shor ki to honestly meri nazar mai wo Aurat hi sahi nahi hy .. kuo k ya wo Mahram rihstay hay jo k aap ko kisi sahi jagha Guide kar sakty hy , mery khayal sy kisi bhi Aurat ka Baap bilawaja usay nahi tokay ga , Bhai hamehsa bahno per jaan deyty hy to Islah hi kary gy aur Shor to Mizaji Khuda hay agr wo kuch khata hay to bhalai mai hi kahta ho ga aur agr aap unlogo ki baat karti hay jo Maraty pitay hay to jasy mai nay arz kiya k wo Low Catg k log hay , wha to bhot kuch hotay hay .

2nd Pesa nahi to Aurat ka qasoor ! ya aap whi dekhi gi asa jhaan Jahliyat hay aur jo log Khandani nahi hay , mai nahi samjhta k is mai Aurat hi pisti hy asi jaghow mai to us larki k bechary ghar waly bhi zaleel ho tay hy jin mai aap ko Baap sy lay kar Bhai aur Chacha tak nazar ay gy .

3. Asa sirf Jahil log hi khaty hy , jo aqal rakhta hay aur Allah ki sifat janta hay wo aap ko asy khaty nazar nahi ay gy

4, Husband ka rawiya agr sahi nahi hay to Aurat ko hi hukum hay k wo asa mahool payda karay k us ka shor uski traf raghib ho to is mai ya kha deyna k Mard asa hy to asi baat nahi albta kuch hotay hay to unka masla yahi hy k Lower Tabqa .. wrna aap apnay aas paas dekh lay mostly adab hi karty ho gy pyaar hi karty ho gy apni wife sy

baqi jawab jo hay aap k sawalo k unka yahi khonga ... k Aurat agr Maar kahti hay ya Jala dee jati hay to is mai aap mahaz mard ko hi nahi balky puray system ko qasoor war thiraiya , aur kab Quran nay kha hay k Aurat Maar khay ? kisi jagha asi baat nahi mojood hay , aur wo Mard hi Bagyrat hay jo Aurat zaat k upar kisi bhi roop mai haath uthay ...

Aap nay jo bhi batain ki hay , wo just Low level k logo mai hoti hay , koi Khandani Khandan , aur Parha likha tabqa in bato sy bhot parhyz karta hay . Agr Shor , Bhai , Baap parhy likhy aur achi family sy belongs karty hay to asa kahi nahi hota balky yahi Aurat Raaj karti hay .

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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

ye baat to bilkul galat hy mardoon pe kahan zulam hota hy albata un mardoon ko sazaa zaror milti hy jin ki biwian laraki hon
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