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womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

Assalama -e-lekum
Me ye soch rahi thi socha app se rayy lety ke
"womens par hi zulamm kio hote ""or gents par kio nahi??
1)kio batte sunty he logo ki
-kabhi bhai se ,kabhi bapp se ,kabhi shor se,kabhi bate se
2)pese nahi to orat ka kassor ke jehezz nahi lai
3)beta nahi hua to orat ka kassu
4)husband ka rawaiya theak nahi to orat ka kasuur
5)orat hi kio maaar kahty he
6)kio orat hi kio jalty he
apke kiyal me iss ka zimmedar kon he????
par har jaga orat ka to kasur nahi hota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
phir esa kio?????
kiya kudd oratt???
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

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mera khayal hy k aurat ko sub sy pehly ghar mein yani maa baap k ghar mein choti choti baton pe degrade kia jata hy ta k wo aglay ghar ja kr apnay haq mein b awaz na uttha saky or apna ghar susraal walon ki chakri or zulim o sitam bardasht kr k guzar saky laqin mera khayal hy jo larkian M.A kar lein or gender descrimination ka subject parh lein to phir ulti naddia behti hy or jo ye illan karty hein k aurat ka awaz utthana bardasht nai karty wo b gutnay taiktay nazar aty hein keon k parhi likhi aurat ko apny rights ka poora poora pata hota hy k kaisy lainy hein

Aap ka reply parha mai nay Abid , aap Aurat hay agr to aap Sura Nisa ko Tarjumay k saath parhya ga aur phir aap apna reply dekhy ga , Quran aur Hadees ka mutala qariya .

Aur aap nay jin bato ka zikar kiya hay ya batain mai nay nahi dekhi hy koi asy maa baap nahi hotay jo apni beti ko degrade karay ...ab agr Beti Modling karna chati hy ya fazool kaam karna chati hy to Degrade kiya islam nay hi kha hy sakhti karo asi aurto per

Aap ka pura paragraph hi asa hay jis mai na mujhy kahi deen nazar aya na hi dunia ka wo hisa jis mai Auart khush hay . Aap nay jis trha byan kia hay to asi Aurat ho agr to wo phir kisi hal mai hi khush nahi ho sakti bashak DR hi kuo na ban jay . balky asi aurat ko to aap khud pasnd na kary . aur asi auraty bantha hy ird gird !

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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

mera khayal hy k islammein mardoon ko auratoon per sirf is leay foqqeiat di gaie hy keon k maash ki zimadari un pr hoti hy sirf yeh he aik waja hy laqin agar ap mujhy kisi jagha dikha dein k is k alaway b koi reason hy to phir mein manoo or sath ye b kaha gya hy k sirf mard is lahaz sy foqeat ka hamil hy warna mard or aurat k aik aisy haqooq o faraiz hein
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

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mera khayal hy k islammein mardoon ko auratoon per sirf is leay foqqeiat di gaie hy keon k maash ki zimadari un pr hoti hy sirf yeh he aik waja hy laqin agar ap mujhy kisi jagha dikha dein k is k alaway b koi reason hy to phir mein manoo or sath ye b kaha gya hy k sirf mard is lahaz sy foqeat ka hamil hy warna mard or aurat k aik aisy haqooq o faraiz hein
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mai nay jabhi aap ko kha na k aap Quran ki ya surat bhi parhay aur phir kai hadees mojood hay aur aap Hazrat Aysha RA ko parh lay to aap ko tamaam jawabat khud bakhud mil jay gy .

aur aap ka khayal bilkul ghlat hy k Islam nay mard ko sirf is liya hi foqiyat dee hay , asi koi ISLAM nay byan nahi kee hui hy ... aap aik sira pakar lay to us sy kuch hasil nahi puri ayat agr aap tafseer k saath parhy to aap ko sab haqay maloom ho jay gy

Quran khata hay , k Apni Aurto per zulm na karo , unhi pyaar karo , unky khanay ka khayal karo , unky orhnay ka khayal karo , unhain Taleem do , unki bahter parwaish karo aur apni biwio aur londio ka khayal rakho , unko bay hijab na niklny do , un ko deen k rasty per chalo aur agr tum dekhty ho k wo rahy-e-haq per nahi to sakhti karo .

aur Aurat ko Islam nay jo muqam dey diya hay na awan wo Muqam to kisi mazhab, kisi society mai aap ko milay ga hi nahi ..

Aurto ki pakar bhi Allah nay ziyada hi rakhi hay , aap ko ILM hay k Jahnum Aurto sy hi bahri hui honi hy .

Ya aik asa mozooo hay k is mai agr mai aap ko Quote karna shuru kar doon to ya barhta hi jay ga ... is liya sab sy acha hay k aap khud parhy kuo k mujhy andesha hay k aap ki knowledge bhot thori mahsoos hui hay deen k lhaz sy .

Ap agr chati hy k MA , ya Dr ban kar larki Haq hasil kar layti hy to ya sab jahilana batain hay , kuo k yahi deen khata hay k apni aurto ki tarbiat karo ...is mai koi Aurat ka apna haq ya justjoo nahi hy ya to Allah nay hukum diya hay .

aur kahi ISLAM nay ya nahi kha hy k Aurat aur Mard equal hay , her rsihaty aur her jagha ko ISLAM nay define kiya hy aur aap koi bhi Rishta koi bhi mamla utha kar dekh lay to Allah nay Mard ko hi aik Aurat per foqiyat di hay .ya jo Nara aaj kal ki Aurto nay lagna shuru kar diya hay k mard aur aurat braber hay , shana bashna chalay , ya just Jahil logo ka kaam hay jo deen sy duur rahna chatay hay , kahi ISLAM nhi khata k Shan Bashna khari ho jaw , sirf khata hay apnay Mahramo k saath raho .

is liya mai chonga k aap Aurat ki izzat aur ahmiyat jo islam mai hy wo parhy to aap ko khudi ilm ho jay ga k isi Islam nay is Aurat ko kha sy kha phonchiya hay aur ya Aurat deen sy duur ho kar tabha hi kar rahi hy

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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

agar quran o hadees ki baat hy to ap log us per amal keon nai karty kia islam ye nahi kehta k aurat k aram ka khayal rakha jaey or ye kaha per liha hy k admi ghar k kam nai kr skta ye sirf auraton ki zamidari hy jub k humaray nabi S.A aGHAR K KAMOO mein hath bataty thy
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agar quran o hadees ki baat hy to ap log us per amal keon nai karty kia islam ye nahi kehta k aurat k aram ka khayal rakha jaey or ye kaha per liha hy k admi ghar k kam nai kr skta ye sirf auraton ki zamidari hy jub k humaray nabi A.S GHAR K KAMOO mein hath bataty thy
kon nahi karta hay ? kya aap batya kya aap k apnay Ghar mai koi amal nahi karta ho ga ? kya aap k Bhai , Walid Muhtaram , Cosuins wagyra mai koi aik asa shaks nahi hy jo amal karta ho ?

awan asi koi baat nahi ... ab agr aik Mard amal nahi kar raha hay to aap us mai sab ko kha deyna ghlat hay mai nay Arz kiya na k asy mard hay jo marty bhi hay , jo shrabi bhi hy , jo asi bhot si buriyo mai ghusay rahty hy jo k aap kha lay Gunha Kabeera mai ati hay to kya aap unhai Mard khti hy ? Agr aap unhai Mard khati hy to phir aap apna nazria badlay kuo k asy logo ko to Mard Hazrat khud hi Mard nahi khty hy ... mai to asy shaks ko hi like nahi karta hoon jo jhaliyat ki intha mai duba ho , mery apny aas pass kai log asy hay jo deen ki alif bay tak nahi janty hy . wo kha k Mard hui ?

Jo Deen ko janta hay jo Dunia ko samjhta hay aur apnay tamaam mamlat deen k mutabik lay kar chlta hay to wo asa koi kaam hi nahi karta hay , aur mujhy nahi pata aap ki Catig k mardo ki baat kar rahi hay , mai zatee tor per apnay Ghar ka bhi kaam karta hoon , apni Mama jaan ki help karta hoon , aur mery ird gird kai asy hay jo pura haq ada karnay ki ksoish karty hy , mery walid nay khud meri bhano ko parhya bhi hy bahtreen jaghow sy , ghumtay bhi hy , mai khud asa karta hoon

Aap ko kha na aap jis level k logo ki baat kar rahi hy wo chay Mard ho ya Aurat unka koi standard hi nahi hy , low level hay wha to Mard kya AUrat khud zaleel ho rhi hy .

Aap apny aap ka mushida kar ly to aap ko maloom ho jay ga k kon sa aap per zulm ho gya hay , aap achi ho gi , parhi likhi ho gi , aik achi society mai rah rahi ho gi , mahfooz char dewari mai ho gi to zahir hay ya sab aap samjhti hy k khud hasil kiya hy aap nay ? asa nahi hy ya aap nay isi liya hasil kiya hy k Aap aik achy ghar sy hay aur ISLAM nay hukum diya hy k apni Aurto ko mahfooz rakho .

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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

khair allah ka shukar humein to her tarha sy acha mahool mila hy laqin mein ny field work kia hy to mujy boht sy aisy waqiat nazar aiey hein k jin k baray mein insan tasawar b nai kr skta k auraton k sath ye mard hazrat kitna zulamkrty hein to rahe humary or ap jaisy gharon ki baat to aisy gharany boht kam hein attay mein namak k brabar
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

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Nice Topic Indeed But you are wrong overhere.
Ye theek hai k Ziyada tar zulam ka ziyada shikar Aurat hoti hai, likin Mard b is se mehfooz hargiz nahi hai
Zulam to mard per b hota hai, ye aur baat k hamdardi hamesha aurat k haq main ziyada time jati hai...youn samj lain k jis ka pal'ra bhari ho jai'e, jo ziyada tar ba'asr mardon ka ho jata hai likin same baat jab aurat intqam per uter aai'e to b there is no good.

Boht Saray cases main Aurat as'tehsal ka shikar hai, jo k qabl-e-maafi Jurm hai...Dunya ka koi qanoon aisi inhumane harkaat ki ijazat nahi daita...
Likin Zulam aik jins per nahi dono per rokna zarori hai...cz blame somehow can be equalized...

Is topic per hours beh's ho sakti hai jis k liye boht saray time ki zarort hai is liye i just do not want to go to the details.

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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

me to bilkul bhi nai hon iska zimey dar balki me to khud mazlom hon iss mamly mein jis aurat ki taraf bhi pyar bhari nazron se dekho agay se chapal utha leti hay ya thapar jhar deti hay hayeee hum mazloom mard....
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

My dear frnd IKRASH, Me aap ki is baat se agry karti hoo ki womens par bohat zulm hote hai duniya me but ab wo baat nahi rahi aaj kal padhe likhe familys me aisa nahi hai , ladkiyo ko wahi izzat hasil hai...Aap ko me apne baare me batao to mere father mujhe mere bhaiyo se bhi zyada pyar karte hai ,aur mere bhai bhi mujhe bohat pyar aur izzat dete hai..hum to frnds ki tarah rehte hai ..ha ye sach hai ki abhi bohat si familys aise hai jo padhi likhi nahi hai so waha par hi aisa hota hai , aur ye kehna galat hai ki saare mard zulm karte hai kahi kahi par zulm sehte bhi hai lolz.....
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khair allah ka shukar humein to her tarha sy acha mahool mila hy laqin mein ny field work kia hy to mujy boht sy aisy waqiat nazar aiey hein k jin k baray mein insan tasawar b nai kr skta k auraton k sath ye mard hazrat kitna zulamkrty hein to rahe humary or ap jaisy gharon ki baat to aisy gharany boht kam hein attay mein namak k brabar
aap ka mushida ya khata hay aur mai nay jo mushida kiya hay us mai asy ghar bhot kum hi milay hy jhaan asa zulm ho haan jo milay hay to wo as i told u k low level hi hay per us mai mard aur aurat dono hi qasoor k haqdar hay
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Re: womens par zulm ka zimedar kon???

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Aap ka reply parha mai nay Abid , aap Aurat hay agr to aap Sura Nisa ko Tarjumay k saath parhya ga aur phir aap apna reply dekhy ga , Quran aur Hadees ka mutala qariya .

Aur aap nay jin bato ka zikar kiya hay ya batain mai nay nahi dekhi hy koi asy maa baap nahi hotay jo apni beti ko degrade karay ...ab agr Beti Modling karna chati hy ya fazool kaam karna chati hy to Degrade kiya islam nay hi kha hy sakhti karo asi aurto per

Aap ka pura paragraph hi asa hay jis mai na mujhy kahi deen nazar aya na hi dunia ka wo hisa jis mai Auart khush hay . Aap nay jis trha byan kia hay to asi Aurat ho agr to wo phir kisi hal mai hi khush nahi ho sakti bashak DR hi kuo na ban jay . balky asi aurat ko to aap khud pasnd na kary . aur asi auraty bantha hy ird gird !

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bheegi palkein..........aap ne us ki baat pe gor nhi keya. aaj kal jo saociety mein ho rha hey wo us ka ziker ker rhi hey. us ne builkul yeh ziker nhi keya keh Islam keya kehta hey. so us ki baat pe Islam ko code kerna theek nhi hey. society mien is waqt jo halaat hein us ne such bola hey. aisa hi hota hey.
modelling to just 0.01 families kerti hongi. wo to overall ki baat ker rhi hey.
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bheegi palkein shaied ap kisi haseen adi ka zikar kar rahy hein jahan ap ziada log aisy basty o laqin hamari awam majority gurbat mein zindgi guzar rahi hy or mein is per research kar chuki hon k un k saat kis tarha ka salook kia jata hy or ye k zalim mard majority mein he hein or agar ap apni misal daity ho to 100 mein sy 1 ya 2 aisy log hon gy
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ye ik kabhi na Khatam hone wala subject hai
her shaks ki Alag dastaan hain Alag kahani hai
aur hum kabhi b kisi b Baat ko harf-e-akhir nahi kah sakte ku k kahin Mard zalim hai aur kahin pe Aurat zalim hai

Haan is mein ye kah sakte hain k Mard baaz oqaat apne Haqooq ka ghalat faida uthatay hain AUr Aurat ko bolne b nahi detay baaz mamlaat mein
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