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    !!~~ Kitab-E-Hidayat ~~!!

    Assalamo Alaikum Wr Wb...!!

    Hope Sab Frndzzz Kheriyat Se Honge ............

    " Ek Sachayee Dunia Main Sabse Zyada Parhi Jane Wali Kitab Quran-E-Kareem Aur Ek Talkh Haqiqat Sabse Zyada Baghair Samjhe Parhi Jane Wali Kitab Bhi Quran-E-Kareem "

    Allah SWT Ne Hum Insano Ki Hidayat Ke Liye Apna Kalam Quran Ki Soorat Main Nazil Farmaya Jo Hamari Zindagi Ka Dastoor Bhi Hai .........

    Lekin Aaj Hum Quran Se Kitna door Hain Yeh Batane Ki Zaroorat Nahin Hai Quran Ko Parhte Bhi Hain To Bus Sawab Ki Niyat Se .... Ek Lafz Ko Bhi Samajh Ne Ki Koshish Nahin Karte Hain .....

    Quran Ko Hamne Reshmeen Khoobsurat Juzdano Main Saja Kar To Rakh Liya Lekin Yeh Nahin Dekhne Ki Koshish Ki Ke Allah SWT Hamein Kya Hukum Farma raha Hai ...........

    Aap Frndz Plz Apne Views Share Karein .......

    1. Kya Aaj Musalmano Ki Buri Halat Is Wajah Se Bhi Hai Ke Hum Quran Se Door Ho Gaye ?
    2. Kya Quran-E-kareem Galey Main Latkane Ke Liye Aya Tha Ya Hamari Hidayat Ke Liye ?
    3. Kya Quran-E-Kareem Ko Bus Totey Ki Tarhan Parh Lene Se Uska Huq Ada Ho Jata Hai ?
    4.Kya Quran-E-Kareem Ke Mutabiq ZIndagi Guzar Kar Hum Kamyab Nahin Ho sakte ?

    Intezar Rahega Aap Sabke Views Ka ............

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    jee dillsay salam
    chalain ab main saaf saaf baat kerti hon jo app ki samj main be aa jaey gi.....or meray saray references Ahely sunnat ki books say hon gay......
    ess say ziada na main kehna chahti hon or na kuch or clear ho sakta hai.........ess say agay bas jagra ka dar hai ager app ko koe baat kerni hee hai tu app muja pm ya vm ker saktay hain...mera maqsad app ko neecha dikhanay ya kisi sihaba ki shaan main ghustakhi kerna hergiz nae....main na sirf apna aqeeda samjya hai apni wo baat samjaey hai jis pa app roshni dalnay ko keh rahay thay...i think app ka liay ab ya kafi hona chahiya.
    app ikhtilaaf ka haq rakhtay ho...ya meri apni raey hai ess main meray firqay ya kisi or ka koe amal dakhal nae.......main na jo thareekh pari hai...or jo books daikhi unn k hawalay daikhay ossi ka hissab sa baat ker rahi hon...essi liay meray saray references Ahely sunnat ki books say hon gay......
    so lets start..
    Ahely sunnat ki kitabain jinnay sahe sitta kaha jata hai wo ya hai........enn ka darja sab books sa bara hai or en main biyaan ki gaey ahadeees hee sahee mani jati hain ahley sunnat ka mutabiq
    wo ya hain
    sahi bukhari
    sahi musslim
    jameah tarmizi
    sunnan abi daoud
    sunnan nisaey
    or sunnan iben maja
    baa'z ka nazdeek sunnan darmi, mota mallik or masnnand imam ahmad be ess main shamil hain...........
    tu baat ho rahi thi Quran ki or mozoh kuch sa kuch hota challa gia.....shyed mujay theek sa samjana nae aya......oss time meray pass references nae thay so main baat kerna nae chahti thi baghair reference ka
    ya baat tu baad mian karo gi.......pehlay jo main na taraweeh wali baat kahi hai oss ko zara ghor say parain...
    wo rawayat kuch yon hai
    (sahi bukhari jild 2, bab ya kitab salat-e tarweeh)
    bukhari main abdul rehman ben abdul qari say rawayat hai ka wo kehtay hain ka Mae Ramdan main aik din raat ka waqet main hazrat umer (R.a) ka sath masjid ki taraf gia tu daikha ka loog mutafariq tor par namaz par rahay hain...Hazrat umer na kaha ka meray khiyal main behtar ho ga ka main aisa intazaam karon ka ya sab aik hee qari ka peachay namaz parain....chunacha unno na aisa hee kia or obi ben kaa'b ko imaam muqarrar ker dia...aik raat phir main hazrat umer ka sath gia...oss waqet sab loog bajamaat sa namaz par rahay thay....unnay daikh ker hazrat umer na kaha "kitni achi biddat hai ya".
    jab ka sahi bukari jild 2 main hai
    ka Rasool-E-Khuda (SAWW) na essay oss waqet manna ker dia tha jab logon na app ka darwazay pa jamma ho ker shor machaya tha ka App(SAWW) aa ker nafla ramadan parhain...ess par RAsool Allah(SAWw) na farmaya ka mujay andaisha hai ka kahin ya namaz tum par farz na ker di jaey.....jao apnay gharon main ja ker namaz paro...
    Or ya be Quran main hee hai na.......abi ap na hee kisi Thread main ess ka reference dia tha ka
    Mera RAsool tumay jo day wo lay lo or jiss cheez say rok ruk jao..?
    hai ya ya ayaat......
    App ka nazdeek jo RAsool Khuda na keh dia wo Sunnat hai.......tu phir RAsool khuda na tu manna ker dia tha ka kahin ya farz na ho jain.....so apnay apnay gharon main paro....
    abbi Sunnat pa hee main roshni dalon gi...
    Sunnat hai kia assel main?
    Wo kaam wo her cheez jo RAsool Khuda apni zindagi main jo kia kertay thay yani unn ka Mamool-e-zindagi..
    wo jiss cheez say manna ker gaey hon wo nae kerna chahiyaa or wo jiss cheez ka hukam dain wo kerna farz hai....
    ab jab ka main na app say pocha tha ka ya wali hadees kahan hai ess ka reference dain ka RAsool Khuda (SAWW) ka farmaan hai ka main tumaray beach 2 cheezain chor ker ja raha hon ...Aik Allah ki kitaab or aik meri sunnat)
    main na app say reference mangi app na mujay di
    Rasool Allah SAWW Ka Irshad E Mubarak.." Logon Main Tumhare Darmiyan Do Cheezein Chhor Kar Ja Raha Hoon , Ek Allah Ki Kitab Aur Doosri Meri Sunnat Jab Tak Tum Inhe Thame Rahoge Gumrah Nahin Hoge. ( Mu'atta Imam Malik-1662 , Mustanad Hakim-Jild 1 Page No.171 ) "
    chaliay main app ko aik hadees ki reference daiti hon jo ka UNN 6 books say hee hain jo Sahe sitta kehlati hain
    oss ka baad ess pa baad main tafseeli baat ho gi...abi bas topic ki taraf anay ka liay ya sab references da rahi hon.
    app ka oss sawal ka jawab ka ager Quran ko seekhna hai tu kiss say seekhain...
    Sihaba or MOhadiseen sa Rawayat hai ka APP ( SAWW) na farmaya
    main tumaray dirmiyaan 2 giraan qadar cheezain chor ker ja raha hon...tum jab tak en ko thamay raho ga meray baad kabi gumra nae ho gaey....Kitab Allah or meray Ahley Bait...ya dono aik dosray say kabi judda nae hon gay ..yahan tak ka meray paas HOOZ_E_kosar par pohanc jain gay...Daikhna ya hai ka meray baad tum en ka sath kaisa salook kertay ho.....
    Ya Hadees Ghor say pariae ..app ko zarorat hee nae paray gi ka ap ko Quran samjnay ka liay kis ki zarorat paray gi...Ess main Kaha gia hai ka ya dono aik dosray say kabi judda nae hon gay...ghor kijaey ess pa......yahi mera jawab hai
    Ab enn ka references or essay 30 say ziada sihaba say rawayat kia gia hai
    iben hajjar Asqalani(sawaeq muharriqa)
    Sahe muslim jild 7 Bab fazail Ali ben Abi TAlib(A.S) saffah 122
    Jameah tarmizi, jild 5 safha 328
    Yonabio-ul mowadda
    Mussanad ahmed jild 3 safha 18(ahmed ben hambal)
    Almustadarak Allas-sahiheen jild 3(hakam nisha pori)
    Kanzul Ummal min suna-nil -Aqwaali-wal-afwaal(alla-ul-deen ali taqi muttaqi)
    Al-tabqatil kubra jild 2(mohamad ben saa'd zuhri basri)
    Jameh asool jild 1(ezz-ul-deen iben aseer jazri)
    jameh ul-sagheer jild 1(hafiz jilal-ul -deen seyooti)
    ess ka ilawa sahi muslim jild 2 safha 362 ...fazail Ali iben Abi TAlib(A.s)
    yahan muslim ka alfaaz hain ka kitab Allah or meray Ahelya bait ...main tumay apnay Ahlay bait ka baray main Allah ko yaad dillata hon ...or App(SAWW) na ya alfaaz 3 baar farmaey.
    ess ka ilawa be kafi sari hain aik tu mera tallafuz theek nae es liay koshish karon gi ka scan ker kay day doon......dosra search main kuch time lagta hai ........
    en sab ka ya matlib nae ka app ess hadees sa inkari ho.....ess sab ka maqsad ya tha ka app no jo Q pocha tha ka main tu main tu Aehlay Bait ka sewa kisi ko ess qabil nae samjti ka wo Quran ki samja sakkain
    Wo Aehlay bait jin ka baray main RAsool KHuda na wo wo Ahadess biyaan ki hain kabi time milla tu zaror karon gi
    Abi tu Quran say Ahleybait ki shaan daikhaey

    Allah tu bas yahi chahta hai ka aeh Ahlaybait tum say Rijjas ko door rakhay or tumay khoob pak karay(Sorah Ehzaab..ayat 32)

    Rijjas ka meanning
    boraey or bori cheez ko rijjas kehtay hain
    ess ka Ilawa Anhazoor (SAWW) kia farman hai
    meray Ahlay bait ki misaal safeena-e-Nooh ki see hai jo ess main sawar ho gia ,bach gia or jo ess say bicher gia ,doob gia, en say na tu agay niklo na en say peachay raho werna halaak ho jao gay...ennay sikhanay ki koshish na karo wo tum say ziada jantay hain..(sawaeq muhareqa by iben hajjar Asqalani, jameah alsagheer seyooti jild 2 safha 157)
    Massanad Imaam ahmed ben hambal jild 3 safha 7 or jild 4 safha 366)
    Ess ka ilawa be Ehlay bait ki itni fazeelatain hain lakin bano ummiya or abbasia ki hakoomat main en sab par pabandi laga di gaey thi......jo be hazrat ali ya Khandan RAsool(SAWW) ki shaan main ahadees biyaan kerta osay sakht sazza di jati thi....
    or khiyaal rahay ya ya sab ahadees ki bono abbasia ki hakomat main maddaween howen......asaan urdu main
    en ko aktha kia gia jora gia or aik aein jari kia gia...
    Or bano abasia or bano ummiya ka dor main kia hota raha hai Tareekh utha ker daikh lay koe be. wo main na yahan shoro ker dia tu alag hee baab khul jaey ga...
    Pehli jo hadees ki kitaab likhi gaey wo Moota Imam malik hai.
    Ager sunnat naam ki koe cheez chor ker gaey hotay Rasool(SAWW) tu sabi sihaba ko illam hota os ka....
    or Jab RAsool jantay thay ka meray baad meri ummat taferqa main par jaey gi tu zahir hai wo apni ahadees kko be kutab kernay ka hukam daitay ager unno na apni sunnat chor ker jani thi tu jaisay Allah ki kitaab Likhi gaey.....aisay hee ahadees ka koe regiester be hota...App tareekh ki books utha ker daikh lain kahin be RAsool na sihaba ko Khass tor per sunnat shikanay ka laiy jamma kia ho.......zahir hai jab sunnat chor ker jani thi tu wo baqaida seekha ker jata sab ko....kuinka ab baa'z moqa par kuch Ashaab hotay thay or baa'z moqa par bas aik hee sahabi hotay thay.....or jo waqet app apnay ghar main guzara kertay thay wo alag... tu ya kaisay mumkin hai ka Anhazoor(SAWW) sunnat ka keh jatay...ab jo sahabee sath thay unno na seekh lia jo nae thay wo kia kertay .....tu ya mumkin hee nae hai ka Wo RAsool jo apni ummat say itni mohabat kertay thay wo ennay yon hee ikhtalafaat main uljanay ka liay chor jatay....
    jabka wo achi tara jantay thay or Alim gaib say be unn ki kabar thi ka meray baad meri ummat firqon main bat jaey gi...or ya sach hai ka baad Rasool(SAWW) sihaba main iktilaaf hota aya hai..(ager tafseel chahiya tu wo be batta don gi.)
    rahi baat khulfa rashdeen ki sunnat ki tu maan laite hon ya ho gi hadeees lakin ager aqel or daleel sa kaam lia jaey tu bohat sari baatain hain ess main.......baat lambi ho jaey gi..or phir jagra ka dar hai....ager app ess pa behas kerna chahtay ho tu u most welcome ...main pm ka thorouh app ko ess ka jawab da sakti hon..
    yahan par mujay aik or Waqia yaad aa raha hai ager wo main likh dia tu ho sakta hai app osay bughaz par mabni qaraar do.....lakin wo app ki books i mean unni 6 books main be oss ka reference hai.
    main yahan koe jagra ya koe laraee nae chahti......or chahti hon ka maohool acha or amen wla rahay.......
    at the end
    Ess saray ka nachor yahi tha Ka ager Tamam ummat RAsool(SAWW) ka farmaan ka mutabiq ider uder say ahadees ka zariay hadayat lianay ki bajaey JO RAsool(SAWW) keh gey thay yani meray Ahlay bait or Quran kabi juda na hon ga......ager Ahlay bait say rajoo kertay tu kabi Iktilaaf ki nobat na ati or ajj ya ummat yon bikri na pari hoti...
    Wo Ahlay bait jin ko Quran ka Waris kaha gia hai
    at the end wohi Ayat share karon gi jiss ki app ko samj nae aey thi..ghor karain ga tu sab aa jaey gi.....nae tu main esss sa agay meray pass ilfaaz nae hain app ko samjnay ka liay

    Ka Main kassam khata hon sitaraon ki jagga ki......or ager tum samjo tu ya aik bari qassam hai...WAqi ya aik qabil-e-ikhtaram Quran hai ..Aik khufiyaa Kitab main, jissay koe mass nae ker sakta sewaey un ka jo paak kiay gaey hain..(Sorah Waqia)
    Allah tu bas yahi chahta hai ka aeh Ahlaybait tum say Rijjas ko door rakhay or tumay khoob pak karay(Sorah Ehzaab..ayat 32)
    kush rahian
    mujay aik baat ka liay app ko thanks kehna hai ka app ki wajja sa meray illam main izafa howa hai.....kuch aisee cheezain jo meray illam main nae thien......app sa ess behad ka doraan wo main na paa liee hain....
    ess baat pa hamaisha app ka liay duago raho gi..
    Allah hafiz


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    Wa Salaam
    Jazzakallah boht hee umdah thread ap jannab ne add ki hy.waqiee yeh hamri boht bari kmzori hy.ap ke sawalon k jawab hazir hn.

    Ans1: Quran se doori k 7,7 hum nimaz ki bhi pabandi mn kamzor hn aor agr aik insan 5 waqt ki Nimaz Bajamaat aor Quran-e-Hakeem ki tilawat kre to uski bigri hoi zindagi sanwr skti hy.

    Ans2: Bohat sy logon ka is mn ikhtelaf hy.mn samjhta hun k agar hum Quran-e-Hakeem ki Taaleemaat Ahkaam per pura utarte hn to Isse (Quran-e-Hakeem Furkaan-e-Hameed) galay mn latkaane ki zrurt ni rhe gi.

    Ans3: Quran-E-Majeed ki hr Hrf per Allah Tabarak Wataalla 10 Nikyan deta hy.or agr insaan ise (Quran-e-Hakeem Furkaan-e-Hameed) mukamml Tarjamay our Tafsseer k 7 prh le to yeh Sawaab or Nikiyan Dogni ho jaye gi or iss k 7,7 humen Is(Quran-e-Hakeem Furkaan-e-Hameed) per amal krne mn b asaani hogi.

    Ans4: Quran-e-Hakeem ki Taaleemaat per Ammal krne mn he Hamari Kamiabi hy.



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    wa alaikum asalam
    no doubt a nice topic

    yeah,No Doubt Quraan Majeed ki ehmiat humari zindagi mein kitne mayne rakhti hai
    jinne is kitaab ka acha faida utha liya unhe akhrat mein koi dikkat na hogi
    aur jinne isse paas patey huay bhi koi faida na uthaya to wo filhal hidayat k raste pe nahi

    haan sahi kaha apne, hum sab ki buri halat isiliye hai k hum quran se door hain
    talking about myself i would say , Alhumdulillah filhaal jitna sab life mein guzarta hai kabhi Allah ki rassi nahi chori
    han , mein apni taraf se poori koshish kerti hon , aisay mein dosron ko mein kuch keh nai sakti dosre musalmanon ka jo filhaal hidayat k raste pe nahi ya hidayat k raste pe chal rahe hain..!!

    ye sawal to humein apne ap se kerna chahiye hai is terhan pooch ker kisi ko uski ehmiat ya koi faida nai hoga
    humarey dilon mein jo hai wohi sach hai aur Allah sab k dil k haal janta hai

    Quran Allah ki nazil ki hui kitaab hai .wohi humari zindagi hai .. hummein her tafseel her sawal ka jawab ussi se mileyga

    n one thing i would like to add
    yeah we all are discussing here ,criticizing the people! people .but ye sawal insan insan se karey
    apne ap se not like this hope ap ko samajh ayi ho mein kia kehna chah ria hon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanchal Chirya View Post
    n one thing i would like to add
    yeah we all are discussing here ,criticizing the people! people .but ye sawal insan insan se karey
    apne ap se not like this hope ap ko samajh ayi ho mein kia kehna chah ria hon
    Masha Allah Bahot Achi batein Likhi Aapne Jazak Allah Khair.....

    Yeh Jo Aapne Last Main Add Kiya Isko Thora Explain Kardein ...

    Yahan Hum Kis Per Criticize Kar Rahe Hain ? Ya Kisi Per Attack kar rahe hain ? Jo Ho Raha hai Aaj hamare sath wohi topic main likha ke hum kitne Door hote ja rahe hain Quran se sabse pehle main apna khud kahunga ... mene na kisi Jamat ya firqe ka likha ek common baat share ki ...
    kya hum deen ki baat bus apne aapse karte rahein? apne Dil main rakhe rahein sabke Sath Discuss na karein? please aapne jo kaha woh samjha dein thora sa .... Thanxxxxxxxx


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    Main Aapka Reply Parhne Ke Baad Aaram Se Us Per Comments Doonga Insha Allah .... So Please Thora Wait Karein ...!!
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    Masha Allah Bahot Achi batein Likhi Aapne Jazak Allah Khair.....

    Yeh Jo Aapne Last Main Add Kiya Isko Thora Explain Kardein ...

    Yahan Hum Kis Per Criticize Kar Rahe Hain ? Ya Kisi Per Attack kar rahe hain ? Jo Ho Raha hai Aaj hamare sath wohi topic main likha ke hum kitne Door hote ja rahe hain Quran se sabse pehle main apna khud kahunga ... mene na kisi Jamat ya firqe ka likha ek common baat share ki ...
    kya hum deen ki baat bus apne aapse karte rahein? apne Dil main rakhe rahein sabke Sath Discuss na karein? please aapne jo kaha woh samjha dein thora sa .... Thanxxxxxxxx


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    hey apne bat bilkul ghalat samjhi sorry for my bad explanation
    what i mean to say was , her insan k amaal us k sath jurhe way hote hain, her insan ki aik alag ego hoti hai
    we discuss here .alot of the things for some its helpful
    n for some ,wo alag ghalat keh dein , to baat discussion nahi behas ban k reh jati hai
    behas mein insan kahein na kahein dosre ko chota dikha deta hai
    i just wanted to say k agar aisi baatein detail mein aisay condition na discus ki jayein to acha hota hia
    bura koi insaan nahi banta ! per perhne walon per bura impression perhta hai
    correction kerana ya sikhana ,hum aisi jaga nahi ker sakte
    bohat bohat bohat 0.009% log hote hongay jo aisay seekhein

    haye Allah karey ab sahi samajh aye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanchal Chirya View Post
    hey apne bat bilkul ghalat samjhi sorry for my bad explanation
    what i mean to say was , her insan k amaal us k sath jurhe way hote hain, her insan ki aik alag ego hoti hai
    we discuss here .alot of the things for some its helpful
    n for some ,wo alag ghalat keh dein , to baat discussion nahi behas ban k reh jati hai
    behas mein insan kahein na kahein dosre ko chota dikha deta hai
    i just wanted to say k agar aisi baatein detail mein aisay condition na discus ki jayein to acha hota hia
    bura koi insaan nahi banta ! per perhne walon per bura impression perhta hai
    correction kerana ya sikhana ,hum aisi jaga nahi ker sakte
    bohat bohat bohat 0.009% log hote hongay jo aisay seekhein

    haye Allah karey ab sahi samajh aye
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    Sahee Kaha Aapne ...... Hum Kisi Ko Badal Nahin Sakte Aur Na Yeh Soch Hai ke Hum Apni Baat Kisi Per Zabardasti Impose karein .....

    Mene Yeh Thread Yeh Soch Kar Lagayee Thi ke Hum Quran Ke Qareeb Aayein ... use Samajhne Ki Koshish Karein ..... Bus Itni Hi Soch Thi Na Kisi Se Behas karne Ka Socha Tha Na Irada Tha ... Lekin jab Koee Kisi Baat Per ungli Uthata Hai To Use Jawab Dena Bhi Zaroori Ho Jata Hai .....

    Aur Sabne Bhi Yahan Reply Kiye Mene Kisi Se Behas Nahin Ki Lekin Jab Log Topic Ko Kahin Se Kahin Le Jate Hain Aur APni Marzi Ki Baat Karte Hain To unhe Jawab Dena Bhi Zaroori Hai ......... Mere Sare Reply Aap Read Karein Kahin Meri Baat Ghalat Lagi Ho to plzz use Mention Karein ....

    Main Bhi Nahin Chahta Ke Behas Barhe Fazool Main .....

    Masha Allah Itne Members Aaye Reply karne Unsab Ka Bht Shukriya

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    yes Bro ..................you are right..........
    aesi topic discuss hone chahiain...........bcoz jis ne faida nahi uthna us k liye to jo marzi kar lain.............wo koi na koi ulchi hui baat nikal hi le ga.............
    lkn dunia mn aur hum mn se bhi buht se aese log hon ge jo Hadayat pana chahte hn......lkn kisi na kisi baat par phasy hote hn.....na jane kisi ko kisi baat se kya mil jay hum nahi jante....kitni duain hamary hisy mn aa jain..........
    mn ne pehle bhi is post mn oche gye kisi swal ka jawab nahi diya...........bcoz mn is kabil hi nahi tha......but jab mn ne othermembers k itne detailed comment dekhe to buht khushi hui......
    mera bhi dil kiya QURAN ko is tarha samjhane ka..............
    buht se log is thread ko dekhne aay.........agar koi acha irada kar k yahan se gya he......to aap ko swab zarur mile ga ...Ameen.......

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    @ Neena

    Pehle mene Socha Tha Ke Aapse Bahot Ache Se Discussion Hogi Topic Per Baat Hogi .... Lekin Ab Lag Raha Hai Ke Aapto Baat ko Kahan Se kahan Le Jati Hain ........... Topic Chal Raha Tha Ke hamein Quran Ko Samajhkar parhna Hai Dekhna Hai ke Allah SWT Ne Kya Farmaya hai Aur Yahan Aap Bayan karne Lagi Fazilat-E-Ahle Bayt ........... Ahle Bayt Ki Fazilat Se Kisko Inkar Hai ? Lekin Har baat Apni jagah Ke Hisab se ki jati hai ....... bht ache se patah hai Alhamdolillah ke Ahle Bayt ke kya fazail hain...... aapki tarhan abhi main bhi Fazail E Sahaba Kiram likhne bethe jaun to pages full ho jaynge ... jab aapne Ahdees main Fazail E Ahle Bayt Dekhe Wahan Aapko Fazail E Sahaba Kiram Nazar Nahin Aate ? Agar nahin aate to Mujh Se Reference Le Lijiye .........

    Taraweeh Wali Baat bhi Mene Pehle Hi Clear kardi Thi Ke Rasool SAWW ne Jamat Karane se Inkar Kiya Tha Taraweeh parhne sE nahin Hadees se Saaf Zahir Hai .......... Phir se Aap Usi baat per agayee

    Aur Ahle Bayt Quran main Kise Kaha Gaya Hai Ek Nazar us per Bhi Zaroor daal Lijiyega ............

    Aap yeh bataein Aap Sunnate-Rasool SAWW Se matlab Kya Leti Hain ? Aapki nazar main Sunnate Rasool SAWW Hai Kya ? Aap Bol Rahee hain Rasool SAWW Koee Sunnat Chor Kar Nahin gaye Hairat Ki Baat Hai ...... Sunnat Kehte Hain tareeqe Ko ..... Allah SWT Ne Jo hukum Diya Rasool SAWW Ko Woh Aapne Amlan karke Dikhaya Aur Sahaba Kiram Ne Use Follow Kiya .......... Aap SAWW Ki Sunnato Ko Apne mathe Ka Jhoomar Banaya .... Aapko Kyon Mumkin Nahin lagta ? Aap Isme Apni Aqal Kis Base Per laga rahee Hain ? Rasool SAWW Kya Sari Batein Sahaba Ko Bata kar Nahin gaye ? Aap SAWW Ne Kya namaz ka Tareeqa nahin Sikhaya? Aapne Nahin bataya ke Hajj Kis tarhan Ada Karna Hai ? Alhamdolillah SAWW Ek Ek baat Bata kar Gaye hain Aur Deen Ki Sari batein Sahaba Ne Seekhi Kabhi Agar Ek Sahabi Bhi Hue Aur Koee Baat SAWW Ne unhe Batayee To unhone Doosre Sahaba Tak WOh Baat Pohchayee .......... aur Aapne Likha Ghar Main Hote The Tab Kaise Sikhate to iska jawab hai Ummul Momeneen Hazrat Aaisha R.A. Ki Riwayat Ki Huee Ahdees Jisme Aap Ne Rasool SAWW Ki Ghareloo ZIndagi ka Sara Tareeqa bataya hai ..........

    Rasool SAWW Ne Deen Sahaba Tak Pohchaya Unhone Apne Baad Ke Logon Main Aur Phir Ahdees Ko jama Kiya Gaya Aise Hi Ahdees Nahin Likhi gayee Hain Poori Tehqeeq Ke Baad Likhi Gayee Hain ............

    Aur Aapki Share Ki huee Hadees Likh Raha Hoon Yeh In Bato Ka Jawab hai ke Rasool SAWW Ki Sunnat Aur Khulfaye Rashe Deen Ki Sunnat Ko Follow Karna Hai........
    " or ager hai kahin tu (massannad imam ahmad ben hunmbal jild 4) kuch yon hai
    tum meri sunnat or meray baad meray khulfa rashdeen ki sunnat ko danton say paker lo.......


    Aap yahan baar baar Likh Rahee hain ke Main Sare ref. Ahle Sunnat Ki Kitabo Se Doongi .... aur agar Main Yahan Ahle Tasheeh ki Books Se ref. Likhne Laga to Shayad Aap Dubara Reply Karne Hi Nahin Ayengi...... Aisi Aisi Batein likhi Huee Hain Ke Unka Jawab Aap Dena nahin Chahogi .....

    Sab Kuch Clear Hai uske Baad Bhi Hum Ulajhte Rahein To Yeh Hamari Bad-Qismati Hi Kehlayegi .........

    Mene Apne Last Reply main Aapse Ek Baat Poochi Thi Ke Aapko jis Waris Ki Talash hai Kya Woh Aapko Mila ? Agar Nahin Mila To Phir Aap Deen ko Kis Tarhan Samajhti Hain ? Isliye ke Sunnat Aur Ahdees per To Aapko Aitraz Hai....... phir Aap Kis Tarhan Quran ko Samajhti Hain ?

    Mera Khyal hai Ab Is Topic PEr Aur Baat Ka Koee Matlab nahin Topic kahin Se kahin Chala Gaya hai .........

    Ab Aapko Baat Karni Hai Kisi Topic Per To Hum Pm , Vm Ya Phir Kisi New Thread main kar Sakte Hain Ok

    Aur main Sabse Pehle Aapko Dawat Doonga " Aqeeda Touheed " Per Baat karne Ki .... Islam main Sabse Pehle Aqeeda Hai So Hum Pehle Ise Clear karlein Aapko Baat Karni Ho To Bata Dijiyega .............

    Khush rahein .............. Allah SWT Sabko Hidayat Farmaye ...Aameen

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    Walikumasalam
    harghiz nahi Quran to hadayt k liye aya hai
    ye koi decoration nahi hai jis ko saja k rakha jaye ya tawiz bna k galy mn ltka liya jaye......
    Quran ko srf prhna nahi hai blky smjhna hai
    beshak aj hum js mushkil ka shikar hain wo isi wajha sy hai
    hum srf batin karty hain Allah ka khuf diloon sy khatam ho gya hai
    Allah hum sab ko isy parhny aur samjhny ki tofiq ata frmayee Amin


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    A-0-A .... kesi hai ap ?

    apka yaha par reply dekh kar acha bhi buhat laga aur bura bhi laga ... acha is liye k hamare FK k sabhi Mods mein say chand essay Mods hotay hai jo is tara k topic mein reply kartay hai aur jo baqi atay hai vo just visit kar k chalay jate hai bina reply kiye, otherwise vo kisi na kisi hallay gullay mein hi busy rehtay hai shayed un k pass is tara k topic k liye time nahin hota hai ....

    agar socha jayein to sab say pehlay Mods ko hi reply karna chaiye har thread ka but maan liya Mods ko yaha par buhat kaam hotay ho gay but ik din k bad zaroor karna chaiye phir bhi nahin essa hota hai ...

    ab yeh thread baqool Dil Say bhai k is liye lagae hai k jo dost members Islam sec tak mein jatay hi nahin hai ya phir un k pass bhi us sec k liye time nahin hota hai agar hota bhi hai to just ( Jazak ALLAH ) keh kar wapis aa janay ka hi time hota hai... un sab members k liye yaha par thread lage gaye thi ta k un sab members k views le aur agar un ki lagae hovi thread mein koi ghalti ya kahin koi samjhnay mein ya jan'nay mein ghalti ho rahi hai to un say zeyda ilim rakhnay walay members unki vo ghalti ko clear karein ...

    i also agree with Dil Say bhai,,, k yeh thread just simple thi aur sabhi members apnay apnay views bata rahay thay jese k apne bhi dekha ho ga peechay sabhi members k comments agar nahin to plz dekhnay ki ik bar zehmat kijiye ... kahin par bhi koi essa reply nahin kia kisi nay jis say koi behas ho ...

    wese bhi behas un mein hoti hai jo k Deen-e-Islam ko thik taraH say jantay ho aur har bat thoss saboot aur full daleel k sath kar saktay ho... aur jo Ham jese ghunaH ghaar Deen-e-Islam k barein mein jantay hi na ho unho nay kia behas karni hai, hamare liye to yeh thread buhat hi munafa bakhs sabit hogi agar koi behas kia karein to ...

    wese Deen-e-Islaam ko jan'nay k liye hi behas ki jati hai aur yeh zeroori nahin hai k yeh yaha par hi ho rahi hai duniya ki har jaga par Alham du lillah pehlay Deen-e-Islam ki bato mein behas ki jati hai aur phir is ka charcha hota hai k kon sucha hai aur kon jhoota,,,..

    jinne is kitaab ka acha faida utha liya unhe akhrat mein koi dikkat na hogi
    aur jinne isse paas patey huay bhi koi faida na uthaya to wo filhal hidayat k raste pe nahi

    mashah ALLAH buhat achi bat ki hai apne... ap ki yeh hi bat ko mein lay kar aghay chalta ho k .... jo hidayat k raste pe nahin hai dua hai ALLAH PAK mujhy aur un sab ko Sirat-e-Mustaqeem Par chalnay ki Taufeeq ATA farmein AMEEN SUM AMEEN.....

    be'shak Hidayat ALLAH PAK k hi tarf say ati hai but us mein kisi na kisi cheese ka Uzzer banta hai, kisi na kisi insan ka waseela banta hai, phir ja kar us ko Hidayat milti hai jese vo kisi ko bata raha ho un sab batao k barein mein jo us ko kisi nay pehlay samjhe thi ...

    is ki misaal mein apko youN do ga k... ap ne zaman-e-waqt say milna ho, i mean to say ( President, Prime Minster, even k Distic Nazim or MNA ) ko milna ho to us ko milnay say pehlay ap apni kisi say jaan pehchaan banatay ho jo us k sath milta ho... zara ghorr say read kijye ga ...

    President, Prime Minster, ko milna ho to sab say pehlay ap us insan say bat karo gay jo us ko milta ho ya phir us ka bhi aghay say dost ho jo us say milta ho... phir essay hi ap apni jaan pehchan sab k sath banatein jatay ho sab say mil mil kar tab ja kar ap President ka ya Prime Minster ko milnay ka time hasil kartay ho k ap ab un say kab mil saktay ho .....

    essa hi kuch system Deen-e-Islam mein bhi hai .. k jab behas nahin ho gi to ham zeyada ghunah ghar ho gay ...

    aj hamare pass har achay say achay college ki univeristy ki degree hai par buhat hi afsoos k sath keh raha ho kabhi apne sucha hai k

    mere pass Deen-e-Islam k liye kia hai ?
    us ki kon c degree hai ...?

    aj ham khud achay say achay colleges mein apni studies complete kartay hai apnay behan bhaioN ko waha par admission lay kar detay hai aur apnay bacho k liye bhi achay say acha school dhoodtya hai ta k hamara bacha intelligent ho, par kabhi apne essa socha hai k pehlay us ko Islam k barein mein taleem di jayein bad mein school mein ya phir dono ko sath sath mein parha jayein mein yeh apki hi bat nahin kar raha ho aj kal k system ki bat kar raha ho ...

    mujhy nihayat hi afsoos say kehna parr raha hai k hamari Nu'jawan nasal mein say essay bhi ALLAH k banday hai jin ko thik say Namaz Ada karni nahin ati hai (6 Kalmay nahin atay hai) Imaan ki siftoN ka nahin pata hai ... aur agar essi batein ho to mera nahin kheyal hai k kisi ko bhi bura lagay ga infact vo mazeed jan'nay ki koshish karein ga aur apnay andar ki ghaltioN ko jo vo khud apni ankho say apnay dil mein dekhta hai vo shudar sakay...

    dua hai k ALLAH PAK ham sab ko Sirat-e-Mustaqeem par chalnay ki, aur duniya k samnay Haq ki bat karnay ka husla aur ham sab k DiloN ko Ishq-e-Muhammadi (SAWW) say mala maal karnay ki taufeeq ata farmayein AMEEN SUM AMEEN.

    Mujh say likhnay mein koi ghalti kotahi ho gae ho ya meri apko koi bat buri lagi ho us k liye insan honay k natay muafi chahta ho....

    ALLAH HAFIZ.


    T@nHa mu$@F!r added 2 Minutes and 18 Seconds later...

    Quote Originally Posted by saba mussawir View Post
    Walikumasalam
    harghiz nahi Quran to hadayt k liye aya hai
    ye koi decoration nahi hai jis ko saja k rakha jaye ya tawiz bna k galy mn ltka liya jaye......
    Quran ko srf prhna nahi hai blky smjhna hai
    beshak aj hum js mushkil ka shikar hain wo isi wajha sy hai
    hum srf batin karty hain Allah ka khuf diloon sy khatam ho gya hai
    Allah hum sab ko isy parhny aur samjhny ki tofiq ata frmayee Amin

    Ameen Sum Ameen.....
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    jee bilkul mujay be abi yahi feel ho raha hai app ka reply daikh....
    app say ya umeed tu naa thi khair
    aik baat bataain app thread kis liay lagatay ho?
    ess liay na ka koe aey or ap ker apna apna veiew paish karay.....
    islamic corner main app na ess liay nae lagaya ka wahan sab atay ahin or aa ker reply ker ka challay jatay hain
    ab yahan kisi na ap ko apnay aqaid aqeeda ka mutabiq reply kia or wo app ko acha nae laga ya app ka aqeeda ka mutabiq nae tu ap na osay paker lia...
    or zahir hai jab app queto ker ka muj say jawab mango ga tu main na tu daina hai na.......na kertay na main dosra reply kerti........app na meri baat ka rukh jis taraf mora main murr gaey oss taraf phir...tht's it
    sirf mera hee nae app ko jis jis ka reply apnay aqeeda ka mutabiq nae lagga ga app oss ka sath aisa hee kertay ho........essi liay shyed ap ka thread main loog aa ker jazakAllah keh ker challay jatay hain
    JAb koe aisee baat ki jaey na tu sab ka view suntay hain ......na samj aey tu kindly pochtay hain or unnay apnay aqeeeda ki nazer say nae daikhtay.
    ab app keh rahay hain ka main na ya behas nae shoro ki tu kia main na app ka reply quote kia tha?
    phir kehna ka behas kis na shoro ki or ager app ki samj main baat nae a rahi tu ossay kahin say kahin pohchanay main ap ka hath hai........mera pehlay be yahi matlib tha or ab be yahi matlib hai.............jo samj ker be na samjna chahay oss ka liay main kuch nae ker sakti... ess say ziada or roshni nae hai meray pass dalnay ko..
    Hum sab RAsool-e-Khuda(SAWW) ki bataey howeay rastay par chaltay hain.....hum be kalmago hain app be ho...Musalman hum be hain tum be ho..
    main na tu ajj tak app ko kisi firqa ka naam lay ker nae pukara.....
    meray nazdeek her wo banda jo Allah or oss ka RAsool ki Ataa't kerta hai wo Ahley sunnat hai.....ager RAsool(SAWW) ki sunnat yahi hai ka unnay kahay par chalna..un ka farmaan par amal kerna tu phir main be Ahley sunnat say hon....sab firqay Sunnat-e-Rasool(SAWW) par hain...lakin sunnat RAsool or sunnat sihaba main bara fareq hai..
    or jahan tak rahi baat meray baat kahan say kahan lay janay ki tu am sorry to say main na tu apna view dia tha baat ko kahan say kahan tak app lay gaey ho
    or mera abi be reply wohi hai........or Ahley bait ki ahadees biyaan kernay ka maqsad be wohi ka Wohi hain assel waris or wohi app ko Quran ki assel taleem da saktay hain........wohi aik rasta ahi gumrahi say bachnay ka...en ahadees ko mantay hain tu phir meri baat sa inkaar ker dain ka nae unn ka ilawa hai koe jo sikkha sakta hai.........or Alhumdulillah Aimma Ahley bait ka Akhri chiraag Zinda hain ........Or hamaein Ager hadayat Or Quran ki taleem laine hai tu unni sa mill sakti hai .......or ager un ko follow karian tu kabi kisi moseebat main nae parain gay..
    wo Quran ka sath or Quran unn ka sath hai
    or jahan tak app na baat ki ka app be sihaba ki ahaadees biyaan kerna shoro ker dain ga tu most welcome
    ager app samjtay ho ka Sihaba Or Ahleyy bait Aik baraber hain tu zaror kariey
    RAhi baat meri wo khulfa rashdeen wali baat wo jee zaroor hai hamari books main......mager plzz zara pora par ker mujay reference dijaey ka baad main app ko shirminda na hona paray........hamari books main Ess ahadees ko tawajeeh paish ki gaey hai ka Ahlay sunnat ka mutabiq ya ahadees aisa hai.....
    BAat ko clear kernay ka liay ya ahadees majood hai or aik nae kaey kitabon main ho gi......hai tu tabi mujay pata hai tabi tu mujay illam howa hai ka app ka haan aisa biyaan ki jati hai or ya be likha hai ka sahi bukhari or sahi muslim bulkay unn 6 bari books main kahin be nae hai ya wali hadees....ya sab mujay apni hee books sa info mili thi tu main na app ki books check ki......
    RAhi baat Hazrat Ayisha ka Ahlaybait main shamil honay ki tu ya ayaat parain or phir apni sari tafseer daikh lain ja ker kahin be Oss tafseer main Hazrat aysha ka naam aya tu main maan loon gi ka Wo be ahlay bait main shamil hain
    Yaman ka aysayon ko jab Rasool(SAWW) na Islam ki dawat baiji tu unno na tehqeeq ka lay apna aik waffad madina baija....unno na RAsool(SAWW) sa mobahisa kia mager qail na howay tu ya Ayat utri thi....
    or jo illam anay ka baad be Tum(SAWW)say jagra karay tu keh do ka ao hum apnay baitay bulatay hain tu apnay bullao...hum apni aurtain latay hain tu apni aurtain lao...hum apni jano ko latay hain tum apni janain(naffas) lao phir badua karain or jhotay par Khuda ki lannat ho(3rd para, sorah All imran,ayat 60)
    or koe be tafseer koe be kitaab utha ker daikh lain ka oss din RAsool na batta dia ka unn ka Ahelay bait kon kon sa hain....RAsool(SAWW) ghar tashreef laey....baiton ki jagga Hussan Hussain(A.s) ko lia.....aurton ki jagga Hazrat FATima(S.A) ko lia or naffas ki jagga Hazrat ali ko en sab ko apni Chader pehnaey or kahan Khudaya ya meray Ahley biat hain or mubahila ka liay rawana howay.......jab unn Aisayee Ulma na In sab ka Norani chehron ko daikha tu jaziya daina qabool ker lia or mobahila sa mazurat ker li......ab app bataian Rasool-e- Khuda sa barh ker be koee bara shariat par ammal kerna wala ho ga?.........ager RAsool-e-Khuda ki or be batiyaan thi ya koe bivi ess main samil thi tu kuin nae la ker gaey wo oss din unn sath......Allah na tu aruton ka kaha tha....lay jatay na RAsool(SAWW)
    app khudi kehtay ho ka RAsool (SAWW) jo be kertay hain hukam khuda sa kertay hain .......tu ager Khuda ka hukam hota tu kisi or ko la ker jatay ......
    or apni kitaabain khol ker daikhain muj say kuch pochnay ki jannay ki zarorat nae paray gi......
    rahi baat sihaba ki tu app RAsool ki sunnat par nae( or yahi mera aitaraaz tha) Sihaba ki sunnat par hee chaltay ho......or yahi kuch likha hai hamari kitabon main jin ka hawala app daina chah rahay ho tu phir jaey or ja ker apni hee sahi muslim or sahi bukhari parain or daikh unn sihaba na Rasool ka hotay howay unn ki sunnat par kitna uammal kia or un ka baad kia kia.........
    yahan main aisee baat ker ka app jaison ko moqa nae daina chahti.........app pehlay hee sara qasoor meray pa dall ker bari ho rahay hain ka main na behas shoro ki baat ko kahan say kahan lay gaey.......
    ya app ki wajja say howa hai ka app ko mera aqeeda par aitaraz tha......main na tu kabi app par ya kisi or par nae kia aitaraaz..........or kerna be nae chahiyaa.......
    main ya baat clear ker chuki hon ka kon waris hai or mujay tu kisi ki talash nae........talash ossay hoti hai jiss ka pass na hon......meray pass hain Alhumdulillah or hmein Rasool(SAWW) day ker gaey hain Ahleybait or wohi hain sirf jo Quran ki sahi taleem da saktay hain......kunka khud Khuda na kaha hai ka ya Quran aik chuppi howe khufiyaa kitaab hai or ossay sirf wohi batta sakta hai jo ess ka waris or jo Es Quran ka sath hai or Quran jis ka sath hai....
    Meray ess reply ki koe zarorat tu nae thi lakin appna majbor kia hai.......
    or haan app shyed apni anna ko buland rakhna chahtay hain or mera nae khiyaal ka app Ess baat ko mantay hain ka Ahlay bait hee Quran ka waris hain...essi liay bar bar muj sa waris ko poch rahay hain ......mujay kisi ki taslash nae.......
    or haan at the end Ager Khuda na aisay hee direct Hadyat kerni hoti tu Nabiyon ko na baijta......yonhi her aik ka oper nazil ker daita Quran......ka Arabic tu sab ko samj main ati thi na ........ kuinka app ko tu kisi ki zarorat nae na essay samjnay ka liay.......
    or meray pass aik hee hadees kafi hai......ka ager Rasool koe sunnat ka keh ker gaey hotay ya ya keh ker ka meray baad khulfa rashdeen ki sunnat ko paker lo tu ess waqia ki zarorat paish na ati.......yahi ESi Time ya Hazoor na kaha tha...
    JAB App(SAWW) ziada bemar ho gaey tu app na ya farmaya ka Ab wo time aa gia hai ka main tum logon ka chor ker ja raha hon.....sunno aeh logo main tumaray dirmiyan 2 cheezain chor ker ja raha hai Aik Allah ki kitaab or dosray meray Ahlybait.......ennay mazboti say thamay rakho gay tu ghumra nae ho gay...ya dono aik dosray say her giz judaa na hon gay..yahan tak ka hooz koser par na pohanch jaein....
    ess ka baad app na qallam or qallam manga ka main tumayy aise tehreer likh ker don ka meray baad tum gumra na ho sako gay......
    tu hazrat umer na kaha ka Hazoor par dard ka galba hai .....hamaray liay Allah ki kitaab kafi hai.....
    ya raway imam bukhari na apni asnaad say obaid ullah ben abdillah ben masood say or wo iben abbas say rawayat kertay hain ess ka ilawa essi hadees ko imaam muslim na sahi muslim 'kitaaab ul wasiyya ka akhir main buwasita saeed ben jabeer iben abbas say aik dosray tareeqa say rawayat kia hai
    iben abbas kehtay ka panj shanba(thursday) haey wo kia din tha
    phir app ki ankhon say ansoo jari ho gaey or rukhsaron par yon behtay challay gaey ka jaisay moti ki larri ho
    ess ka baad iben abbas na kaha ka Rasool(SAWW) na irshaad farmaya ka meray pass dawat or kaghaz lao taka main aisa Noshta(tehreer) likh don ka meray baad tum phir kabi ghumra na ho sako gay...tu pass baithay logon na kaha ka (naozbillah) RAsool(SAWW) hizyaan(bakwas) keh rahay hain....or apis main jagarnay lagay....Tu RAsool(SAWW) na gussay sa kaha ka meray pass say uth jao.....
    ager app siha sitta ko parain ka ya kehna wala kon tha..tu pata chal jaey ka ka Rasool jis ka baray main kaha gia ka wo jo kehta hai apni taraf say nae kehta...wo Hukam Allahi hota hai oss ka hukam jab Rasool ki zindagi main hee nae mana gia tu baad ki tu kia baat hai.....ya rawayat sahi muslim jild 2 safha 222 or imam ahmend na masannad main jild 1 par rawayat kia hai.......ess ka ilawa imam bukhari na kitaab aljihad wal seer ka baad jawaiz-ul-waffad main be essi tara likha hai...sahi bukhari ka baab Wafat -ul Nabi oss main be hai......
    i think kafi hai app ka liay.........or jis jis sihaba ki reference chaiya wo main daiti hon phir faisla keriay ga ka ap Rasool(SAWW) ki sunnat par chal rahay ho ya Sihaba ki sunnat par.....
    app apni anna ko buland rakhtay howay jari rakhain ess behas ko .......coz ya waqi ab behas ben chuki hia.......jis baat ka koe end koe hall koe hasil na ho wo behas hee hoti hai so main essay yahi katam kiaey da rahi hon........app ko koe be q hai tu mujay directly poch saktay ho......kuin ka baat ko tangain app kanch rahay ho or phir kehtay ho ka dosray baat ko kahan say kahan la jatay hain.........app na meri baat ka rukh jis taraf mora main murr gaey oss taraf phir...tht's it
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    Assalamo Alaikum ........

    Is Thread Ka Topic Tha Quran Kitab E Hidayat... Hum Quran Se Bahot Door Ho Gaye hain .... Hamein Is Per Baat Karni Thi Aaj Hum Kitne Be-AMal Ho Gaye Hain.... Aur Dekhlein Hum Iski Wajah Se Aaj Dunia Main Hamari Kya Halat Hokar Reh Gayee Hai ....... Yahan Hamein Ek Doosre Ki Islah Karni Thi .......... Lekin Ho Kuch Aur Gaya Hamein Apne Amaal Ko Dekhna Chahiye Lekin Ungli Un Logon Per Uthayee Ja Rahee Hai jo Ab Is Dunia main Mojood Bhi Nahin Woh Kaisa Amal Karke gaye Unhone Kya kiya Yeh humse kisi se Nahin Poocha Jayga.... Hum sabko Apne Amaal Ka Jawab Dena Hoga ......... Hum Apni Fikar Karlein Hum Kyon Sirf Is behas Main parhe rehte hain ke Unhone Yeh Kiya Kisi Aur Ne yeh kiya ......

    Neena Jee Aapne Kafi Kuch Likha Woh Aapki Soch aur nazriya yahan bata raha hai .... Sahaba Kiram Ki Fazilat ka Cirtificate Aapse bilkul nahin chahiye... aap unhe kya manti hain yeh aapki Prb. hai .....

    Aapne Kaha Ke mene aapki Reply ko Quate kyon kiya to itna samajh lijiye ke Jo Thread Starter hota hai Woh members ke reply ko Quate karta hai unhe jawab deta hai..... aap yeh chahti hain ke aap thread main reply karke jayein aur aapko uska jawab main Pm main doon yeh kisliye? jab aapne likha yahan hai to Uska jawab bhi yahin per suniye..... Aap kis Aqeede per hain usse humein kuch lena dena nahin woh aapka apna masla hai ......... Aur Islam section main Sirf mere hi Thread nahin kisi ki thread main bhi reply nahin hote aur yahan is Thread main to aap khud dekh sakti hain Masha Allah kafi members ne reply kiye aur read bhi kiya ..........

    Aapne Ummul Momneen Hazrat Aaisha ke Liye likha ke WOh Ahle Bayt se nahin Agar Rasool Allah SAWW ki Biwiyan Ahle bayt se nahin to Phir Koee Bhi Ahle Bayt se nahin ho Sakta....... Sabse Pehel Biwi Hi Ahle Bayt main Shumar Hoti Hai ...... Aur Agar Aap yeh Kahein Ke Biwi Hoti hain Lekin WOh Jo Hidayat per hon to uska Jawab Quran Main Allah SWT ne De Diya Hai ............

    " Bila Shuba Nabi (SAW) To Ahle Iman Ke Liye Unki Apni Zaat Per Muqaddam Hain Aur Nabi (SAW) Ki Biwiyan Unki Maa'en Hain " (Surah Ahzab-6 )

    Allah SWT Ne Rasool SAW ki Biwiyon Ko Momino Ki Maa Kaha Hai Is Lihaz Se Har Musalman Per Ummahtul Momeneen Ka Ahtram Farz Ho jata Hai AUr Unse Mohabbat Deen ka Hissa ..!!

    Abdullah Bin Umar Radhi Allah Anha se riwayat Hai " Rasool SAW ne Farmaya Jibrail Alassalm Mere Paas Aye aur Yeh Kaha Allah Ta'ala Ne Aapka Nikah Hazrat Abu Bakar Ki Bethi Ayesha (R.A) Se Kar diya Hai " ( Bukhari Wa Muslim )

    Agar Ummahtul Momeneen Hidayat Per Nahin Hoti To unhe Momeneen Ki Maa Nahi Kaha Jata...........

    Log Rasool SAWW Ki Sirf Ek beti Ko Ahle Bayt Main Shamil karte Hain WOh Yeh Bhool Jate Hain Ke Rasool SAWW Ki 4 Betiyan Thi... Reference Chahiye Hoga WOh Bhi Doonga Insha Allah

    Aur Rahee Baat Sahaba Kiram Ki Fazilat Ki Woh Bhi Bayan Karne Ki Zaroorat Nahin Isliye Ke Na Usse Sahaba Ki Fazilat Kam Hogi AUr Na Zyada... Phir Bhi Un Logon Ke Liye Kuch Refernces De Raha Hoon Jo Na Jane Kahan Bhatke Hue Hain .........
    Allah SWT Ka Farman :
    " Woh Muhajreen Wa Ansar Jinhone Sabse Pehle Dawate Iman Per Labbaik Kehne Main Sabaqqat Ki, Nez Woh Jo Baad Main Rastabazi Ke sath Unke Peeche Aaye, Allah Unse Razi Hua Aur Woh Allah Se Razi Hue, Allah ne Unke Liye Aise Baghat Muhaiya Kar Rakhe Hain Jin Ke Neeche nehrein Behti Hongi Aur WOh Unme Hamesha Raheinge Yahi Azeem O Shan Kamyabi Hai " ( Surah Touba -99 )

    Subhan Allah Yeh To WOh Log The Jinse Allah Razi Hua .... Aur Hum Inke Muqable Apne APne Iman Aqeede Ko Check Karlein ..... Hamse Apne Aamaal Ke Liye Sawal Hoga.........

    " Mere Baad Abu Bakar R.A. Aur Umar R.A. Ki Ikhteda Karna (Bukhari Wa Muslim )
    Reference To Alhamdolillah Bht Hain Lekin Jab Topic Doosra hai to Main Kyon Yahan Sahaba Kiram Ki Fazilat Lekat Beth Jaun ?

    Aap Keh Rahee Hain Ke Ahle Bayt Ko Pakar Lo Kamyab Ho Jaoge .... Zara Bataein Aaj Is Zamane Main Aap Kaise pata Lagaogi ke Yeh Ahle Bayt Hain? Aur Kya Aajke Log Jo Hain WOh Sirf Isliye Fazilat Wale Ho Jaynge Ke Unki Nisbat Ahle Bayt Se Hai ? Islam Main Nisbat Kaam Nahin Aati hai Allah SWT Ke Yahan Taqwe Aur Iman Per Fazilat milti Hai ..... Ahle Bayt Ka Naam Lo Aur Log Sab Kuch Kar Rahe Hon Aaj AUr Kahein Ke Humto Ahle Bayt Main se Hain To Bataein Sirf Ahle Bayt Ka Hona Hi Kafi Hai ? Ya Uska Aqeeda Iman AMal use Kaam Dega?

    Ahle Bayt Saww ke Jo Iman Aqeede The Kya Aaj Ke Logon ke WOh hain Jo Apne Aapko Ahle Bayt Se Mohabbat Karne Ka Dawah karte Hain ? Jo Aajkal Log Kar Rahe hain Kya woh Ahle Bayt AUr Rasool SAWW Ne Karne Ka Hukum Diya Tha ? Mohabbat ka Dawah Karna Ek Baat Aur Sachi Mohabbat Karna Doosri Baat Sirf Zaban Se Ahle Bayt Ki Mohabbat Ka Dawah kaam Nahin Aayega Kaam Ayga to yeh ke Us Raaste Per chalo Jo Raasta Ahle Bayt Ka Tha Jo Raasta Rasool Allah SAWW Ne Bataya .......

    Allah SWT Ka Farman:
    " Apne Qareeb Tareen Rishtedaro Ko Darao Aur Iman Lane Walon Main se Jo Log Tumhari Pairvi Ikhteyar Karein Unke Sath Tawazo Se paish Aao " ( Surah Shuhra -215 )

    Allah SWT Ne Farma Diya Ke Rishte Daro Ko Bhi Darao Sirf Rasool Allah SAWW Ke Rishtedar Hone Ki Wajah se WOh Bach Nahin Sakte unhe Apna AMal Paish Karna Hoga.........

    Farman-E-Rasool SAWW :
    " Hazrat Abu Hurera R.A. Se Riwayat Hai Ke Jab Rasool SAWW Per Yeh Aayat Utri Ke (Aiy Muhammed SAWW APne Rishtedaro Ko Qayamat se Darao) Tu Aap SAWW ne Khare Hokar Farmaya Aiy Quresh ke Logon Apni Jane Bachao(Qayamat ke Din) Main Allah SWt Ke Samne Tumhare Kisi Kaam Nahin Aa Sakunga, Aiy Abd Munaf Ke Beto (Qayamat Ke Roz) Main Allah SWT Ke Samne Tumhare Kisi Kaam Kaam Nahin Asakunga Aiy Abbas R.A. Bin Abdul Muttalib Main Allah SWT Ke Samne Tumhare Kisi Kaam Nahin Aa sakhunga Aiy Safia Rasool SAWW Ki Phupi Main Allah SWT Ke Samne Tumhare Kisi Kaam Nahin Asakunga Aur Aiy Fatma Bint Mohammed SAWW (Dunia Main) Mere Maal Se jo Chaho Mang Lo (Lekin Qaymat ke Roz) Allah SWT Ke Samne Main Tumhare Kisi Kaam Nahin Asakunga ( Sahee Bukhari )"

    Sabit Ho Jata Hai Ke Sabke Aamal Hi Allah SWT Ke Samne Kaam Aane Hain ........ Aur Alhamdolillah Jo Ahle Bayt The Rasool SAWW Ke Woh Taqwe main bemisal The .... Unki Fazilat Hum Sabke Dilon Main Hai Unse Hum Sabko Mohabbat Hai......... Lekin Ab Agar Yeh Kaha Jaye Ke WOh Falan Insan Bhi Ahle Bayt Main se Hai Aur Uski Fazilat Bhi Isliye hai Ke SIrf Khandan Se Hai To hum Uski Fazilat Sirf Is Base Per Nahin Maan Lenge Ke WOh Us KHandan se hai Insan Ka Taqwa Aur Amal hona chahiye Kisi Khandan se Nisbat Koee Faida nahin dene Wali .... Aur Pehle Pata To Ho Jaye Ke Jo Dawah Kar Raha Hai Apne Aapko Ahle Bayt Main Se Hone Ka WOh Hai Bhi Ya Nahin ?

    Insano Ki Hidayat Ke Liye Allah SWT Ne Quran Bheja Usko Samjhane Ke Liye Rasool SAWW Ko Maboos Farmaya...... Rasool SAWW Ne Har Ek Amal Karke Dikhaya Aur Aaj Rasool SAWW Ka Har Amal Sari Sunnatein Alhamdolillah Ahdees Ki Books Main Mojood Hain....... Hamare Liye Rubb Ki Kitab Aur Farmane Rasool SAWW Hi Kafi Hai ....!!

    Aap Sab Khush Rahein.... Koee Baat Kisi Ko Ghalat Ya Reference Se Hat Kar Lagi Ho to Please Bata Dein .....!!

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    jee mera na be jo reply kia tha wohi esi topic pa kia tha......lakin dhaka chuppay lafzon main ka mujay pata tha ya behas ki sorat ikhtiyaar ker lay ga......lakin ya phir be behas ben hee gia..
    main maqsad yahi tha ka ager baad Nabi Ahley Bait say rajo kia jata jaisay ka Hadees main hai ka wo Quran ka sath or Quran Unn ka sath hai or tum ager essay mazboti say thamay raho ga tu kabi gumra nae ho ga....
    Dosra hazrat ayshay ka Ahley bait say hona ya na hona.....tu app mujay batain kisi be hadees ki book main ya tareekh ki book main hazrat ayesha ya kisi or bibi na Ahleybait main hona ka dawa kia ho?
    khud Ya sab ka mutabiq ess main MOhamad(saww)Ali,Fatima,Hassan,Hussain(A.s) shamil hian...
    challain aik sorat main maan be laitay hain....meray pass aik or daleel be hai lakin yahan likh di tu behas lambi hoti challi jaey gi.......or main ajj last reply ker rahi hon ap ka thread main.......meray pass time nae werna main app ka baqi sawalat ka jawab be daiti.....jo abi main na paray nae..bas jo highligt kia app na wohi par saki hon.
    Or dosra app na jo mujay ayat di Sorah Ahzaab ki.......Lagta hai app na sirf essi ayat ko para hai ........pori sorat parh lain tu sab samj main aa jaey ga......
    Aisa Allah na ess liay kaha....ka Nabi (saww) ki biwiyaan ummat ki maein hain ka baad Nabi koee un say nikah na karay......Nabi (saww) ki hurmat ka sawal tha.....or Esii sorah Ehzaab main ya likha be howa hai........or ya tab aey thi jab aik na kaha tha ka kia hamari chachazad behnain sab nabi ki zojiyat main challi jain gi.....daikhna main Baad Nabi en say shadi karon ga.......essi liay unnay maa ka rutba dia gia or sab par haraaam qaraar da di gaey.......
    werna app daikho tu phir tu Allah ko chahiyaa tha ka kehta Aeh Mohammad tum en ka baap ho.....lakin Allah na kaha her giz nae tum Ess Ummat main say kisi ka BAaap nae ho........yahi say Ahlaybait ki azmat ka andaza laga lain......
    jab ka Esi Quran main Allah sorah All-e-imran main keh raha hai
    ka Aeh Mehboob keh do en say ka tum lao apnay baiton ko hum apnay baiton ko tum apni aurton ko hum apni aurton ko tum apni jano kko hum apni jano ko or phir jhota par Khuda ki lannat karain.....(seha sitta samait or Ahley sunnat ki tafseer ka mutabiq....or Nabi ki Azwaaj ki rawayat say be yahi milta hai ka oss din RAsool(SAWW) sirf or sirf Ali,FAtima,Hassan or Hussain(A.S) ko mobahila ka liay la ker gaey tha.....Hawaly chahiya tu wo be lay lain.
    Or RAhi baat Hazrat aysha ki Tu sorah Tehreem pori par lain....... shoro ki ayat main hee hai......Yahan biyaan ker kay mujay koe behas nae kerni......na mujay ess say koe chilchaspi hai sirf app ki maloomat ka liay thi..
    or ya hazrat Umer ka hee kehna hai ka ya sorah hazrat aysha bent abu baker, or hazrat hifza bint ummer ka baray main nazil howe hain.(sahi bukhari jild 6 BAB waza sirra-ul Nabbi illa bahza azwajae)
    Or Quran main hee kaye jagon par bar bar Allah ka kehna hai ka Jo meray RAsool ki na farmani karay ga oss ka liay sakht azaab hai.....kahin unay behukam or fasaq or kahin deen say harj samja gia hai.......
    Challain app ya kehtay hain ka app ka haq tha thread ko qoute kernay ka tu phir mujay be tu haq tha na app ka sawal ka jawab dainay ka...tu phir essay behas or wo be fazool behas kehna achi baaat tu nae na...
    beharhaal ya last reply tha......or ess ka ya matlib nae ka main app ka kisi sawal ja jawab nae daina chahti...ya mujay pata nae...
    ya baat nae main bass yahan koe aisee baat nae kerna chahti thi jiss say dosra ka aqeeda ya kisi or tara sa wo hurt ho....
    main app ko khulli dawat daiti hon jo merzi sawal pochna hai pochain .......bulkay ab main hee app say pochon gi or ap ka sath sath beegi palkain jinno na muj sa kuch Q pochain hain ....Inshallah BAB-e-Illam ka mannay wali hon koee masla nae.
    Sunnat say lay ker Ajj tak kisi bee baat par kisi be mozah par baat ker sakti hon.
    Par yahan nae .......mujay yahan ka mahool or yahan ka Rule be daikhna hai.
    KHuda hafiz.

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    Mujhe Aapki Prb samajh nahin ayee ke aakhir aap Sabit kya karna chahti hain ? ... mene kitne baar aapko kaha yahan apne barein main baat kijiye kon kya karke gaya usse aapko kya matlab ? aap kyon unke ghum main apne aapko halak karna chahti hain ? mera last reply bhi read karlein mene yehi likha ke hum apne Iman Aqeede per baat karlein jo mene references diye woh aapki post ke jawab main diye .... mujhe yahan Sahaba kiram Ki fazilat bayan karne ka koee shoq nahin ........... lekin aap phir se wohi start ho gayee ... itna bughz aur keena hai aapke Dil main Umhatul Momeneen aur Sahaba Kiram ke barein main ....... woh Quran ki ayatein jo Munafiq logon ke liye Nazil huee unhe aap sahaba kiram per laga rahee hain ....... Wah aapki aQal aapko mubarak. .......
    jo aap Ahlul Sunnah ki kitabo se Ahle Bayt ki fazilat wali Ahdees la rahee hain wahan Aapko Fazilate Sahaba Kiram Ki Ahdees nahin mili ?

    Koee Bhi Biwi Yeh Ailan nahin karti ke main Apne Shohar ke Ahle Bayt se hoon .......... Agar Biwi Ahle bayt se nahin hogi to kon hoga? yeh kehne ki baat hai ? sabse pehle Biwi Ahle bayt hoti hai uske baad Aulaad aur baqi log.........

    " Rasool SAWW Hazrat Aaisha R.A. Ke Hujre main Dakhil hue aur Farmaya Assalamo Alaikum Ahlul Bayt Wa Rahamatullah , Hazrat Aaisha R.A. Ne Jawab main Farmaya Wa Alaikum Assalam Wa Rahamatullah Wa Barakatuhu ( sahee Bukhari Kitab Al Tafseer ) "

    Woh Aaisha Siddeeqa Jinke Hujre Main Rasool SAWW Ne Apni ZIndagi Ke Aakhri Lamhat Guzare ..... Woh Jinse Rasool SAWw sabse zyada Mohabbat karte The Woh Jinke Ilm Aur Fehem Ko Barhe Barhe Sahaba Mante The Unke Liye Itna Bughz .......... Allah Hidayat Farmaye... Aameen

    Sahaba Kiram Ka Martaba Hum Aapse Kya Sunenge ...... Hamara Yeh Iman Hai Ke Sahaba Kiram Insan The Insan Hone Ke Nate Jo Unse Ghaltiyan Huee Allah AUr Rasool SAWW Ne Unki Islah Ki .... Hum Sahaba Kiram Ko Masoom Nahin Mante Jis Tarhan Ke Logon Ne Apne Imamo Ko Masoom Banaya Hua Hai .........

    Allah SWT Ka Farman Pariye.....:
    " Aur WOh Log Jo Iman Laye Hijrat ki aur Allah ke Raaste Main Jihad kiya aur woh log Jinhone Thikana Diya Aur Madad ki Yahi Log Sache Momin Hain unke liye Bakshish aur aur Umdah Razk Hai ( Surah Anfal-74)

    Yeh Allah SWT Ka Farman Hai..... Faisla Khud Kar Lijiye Hum Aapki Baat Manein Ya Apne Rubb Ki ?

    " Woh Muhajreen Wa Ansar Jinhone Sabse Pehle Dawate Iman Per Labbaik Kehne Main Sabaqqat Ki, Nez Woh Jo Baad Main Rastabazi Ke sath Unke Peeche Aaye, Allah Unse Razi Hua Aur Woh Allah Se Razi Hue, Allah ne Unke Liye Aise Baghat Muhaiya Kar Rakhe Hain Jin Ke Neeche nehrein Behti Hongi Aur WOh Unme Hamesha Raheinge Yahi Azeem O Shan Kamyabi Hai " ( Surah Touba -99 )

    Allah SWT To Ailaan Farma Raha Hai Ke WOh Muhajreen Aur Ansar Se Razi Hua Aur Log Keh Rahein Hain Ke Rasool SAWW Ke Baad Bus 4.. Ya 5 Log Hi Islam Per Bache The Baqi Sab NauzoBillah Murtid Ho Gaye The... Sochne Wali Baat Hai Allah Ne Jinse Razi Hone Ka Farman Suna Diya Kya WOh Kabhi Gumrah Ho Sakte The ? Hargiz Nahin ......!!

    Ahle Bayt Ki Jhooti Mohabbat Ka Aaj Log Bht Dum Bharte Hain .... Lekin WOh Khud Apne Aqeede Aur Amal Ko Utha Kar Dekhlein Kya Ahle Bayt Ne WOh Sab Karne Ka Hukum Diya Jo Aaj Log Kar Rahe Hain ? Yeh Log Hargiz Ahle Bayt Nahin Jo .... Ummahtul Momeneen Ke Dushman Jo Rasool SAWW Ke Sathiyon Ke Dushman Jo Ahle Bayt Ke Dushman WOh Ahle Bayt Main Se Hargiz Nahin Ho Sakte ............

    Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamat Ki Koee Bhi Kitab Deklein Na Kisi Sahabi Ki Toheen Milegi Na Ahle Bayt Main Se Kisi Ko Kabhi Bura Kaha Gaya Hai Hamare Dilon Main Sabki Mohabbat Aur Azmat Hai ....... Lekin WOh Log Jo Apni Kitabo Main In Mubarak Hastiyon Ko galiyan Dete Hain Bura Bhala Kehte Hain Kya WOh Sahee Raaste Per Ho Sakte Hain ?

    Ahle Tasheeh ki Kitab Ka Reference De Raha Hoon Aapki Tasalli Ke Liye ...
    " Hazrat Ali R.A. Ne Apne Sathiyon Se kaha main tumhe Rasool SAWW ke Sathiyon ke barein main yeh Nasihat karta hun ke unhe Galiyn mat dena Isliye ke Woh tumhare Nabi SAWW ke Sathi hain, Woh unke Sathi hain Jinhone na khud Deen main koee Nayee Cheez Dakhil ki aur na Kisi Bidati ko Izzat Di, haan Mujhe Rasool SAWW ne Inke Barein main Yeh Nasihat Ki Hai
    ( Hayat Al-Quloob Lal-Majlisi Jild 2, Page-621)"
    Yeh Aapki Kitab Ka Hawala Hai ..... Sahaba Kiram Ek Doosre Ki Izzat AUr Mohabbat Karte The .......

    Aur Aapki Books Main Aisi Aisi Batein Hain Jise Bayan Kardon To Shayad Aapko Woh Sunna Gawara Nahin Hoga......... Alhamdolillah Hum Na Kisi Sahabi Ki Touheen Karte Hain AUr Na Ahle Bayt Ki........ Aap yeh Baar Baar Likh Rahee Ho ke Main Kisi Ko Hurt Karna Nahin Chahti To Aap Aisi Baat Hi Q Share Karo Jisse Logon Ko Bura Lage? Aap Apne Barein Main Baat Karo Aapko Kya Parhi Huee Hai Sahaba Kiram Ke Barein Main Baat Karne Ki ? Woh Hamare liye Mubark Hastiyan Hain Aap Nahin manti Unhe Yeh Aapka Masla hai Lekin Aap Ko Yeh Huq Kisne Diya Ke Aap Un Per Ungli Uthayein ? Aapse Nahin Poocha Jayga Ke WOh Log Kya Kar Ke Gaye Hain Aap APni Fikar Karo .............

    Ahle Tasheeh Ki Books Main Hai Ke Quran Main Nauzobillah Tehreef Ki Gayee Hai, Chahiye Aapko to Refernce Bhi Doonga .... Aur Jo Insan Yeh Aqeeda Rakhta Ho Ke QUran Ke Ek Lafz Main Bhi Tehreef Ki Gayee Hai WOh Hargiz Musalman Nahin Ho Sakta Isliye Ke QUran Ki hifazat Ka Zimma Allah SWT Ne Liya Hai...... Aap Khud Faisla Kar Lijiye Aapki Kitab Sahee Hai Ya Aapka Aqeeda APni Kitabo Per Nahin Hai ?

    Hum Hazrat Ali R.A. Se Sachi Mohbbat Karte Hain Aap Damade Rasool SAWW AUr Hamare 4th Khaleefa Hain..... Lekin Hum Mohbbat Main Itne Aage Nahin Barte Ke Kisi Bhi Sahabi Ya Ahle Bayt Ko Rasool SAW Ke Martabe Se Aage Le Jayein....... Aap Hi Ki Kitab Se Reference De Raha Hoon........:
    " Jab Aap SAWW Meraj Ki Raat Aasmano Per Gaye To Hazrat Ali R.A. Aur Aap Ki Aulad Ko Dekha Ke WOh Aap SAWW Se Pehle Hi Wahan Pohach Chuke Hain, Aap SAWW Ne Unhe Salam Kiya Halanke Unhe Aap SAWW Zameen Per Hi Chhor Kar Gaye The ( Tafseer Al Burhan Jild 2 Page-404 Barsi Se Manqool ) "
    Allah SWT Maaf Farmaye Aisa Likhne Per Bhi ... Aameen

    " Rasool SAWW Ne Hazrat Ali R.A. Se Kaha Agar Main Teri Wilayat Ke Barein Main Wo Cheez Na Pohcha Dun Jiska Mujhe Hukum Diya Gaya Hai, To Mere Aamal Barbad Kar Diye Jaeinge ( Tafseer Noor Al Saqlain Jild 1 Page-654 )"
    NaUzobillah Kya Rasool SAWW Isliye Aaye The ? Yeh Wohi Aqeeda hai Logon Ka Jisme Yeh Log Nabuwat se ooper Wilayat Ko Mante Hain ... Iske Reference Dena Bhi Mere ZImme.........

    Aur Beshumar Batein Hain Jo Ahle Tasheeh Ki Books Main Hain Jo Quran Ahdees Se Takrati Hain ............

    Yeh Sab Main Kabhi Share Nahin Karta Lekin Majboor Kiya Hai Aapne Khud Sab Likhne Ko ........ Mene Aapse Kaha Hum APne Barein Main Baat Karte Hain Lekin Aapko Shoq Hai Sahaba KIram Ke Iman Aqeede Per Baat Karne Ka... Aur Jab Sahaba Kiram Per Baat Aayegi To Chup Nahin Raha Jayega ... Aur Aapki WOh Kitabein Jo Logo Se chupi Huee Hain Unhe Sabke Samne Hum Paish Karenge Insha Allah Jisme Har Ek Ki Toheen Ki Gayee Hai Kisi Ko Nahin Chhora Gaya Hai .............

    WOh Sahaba Kiram Jo Deen ke Liye Ek Qabr Main 70- 70 Dafan Kar Diye Gaye Unke Iman Aur Azmat Ko Hamara Salam ............!!

    Ab Main Nahin Samajhta Ke Aapse Baat Aage Hogi Aap Ne Iss Topice Se Aage Barhna Hi Nahin Hai .........

    Mene Pehle Bhi Kaha Tha Baat Karni Hai To Sabse Pehle " Aqeeda Toheed" Per Baat Kijiye WOhi Dawat Phir Hai Aqeede per Baat Kijiye......!!

    Aur Jo Yeh Aapko Ghuroor Hai Ke Ahle Bayt Se Hain Ya Baab Ul Im Ki Maanne Wali Hain To Ghuroor Mat Kijiye ...... yahoodi Yeh AQeeda rakhte The Ke Jannat Main Sirf Wohi jaynge Allah SWT Ne Un Per Lanat Ki Aur Quran Main Unhe Jagah Jagah Phatkar Lagayee Hai Islam Main Kisi Se Nisbat se Koee Fayda Nahin Allah SWT Taqwa Dekhta Hai .... Aur Jisko Chahta Hai Hidayat De Deta Hai .......... ILm Rakhne Wale Abu Jehal Aur Abu Talib Ko Allah Ne Hidayat Nahin Di Aur Dena Thi To Ek Ghulam Habshi Hazrat Bilal R.A. Ko Hidayat De Di .........!!

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    w.salam
    great sharing
    bilkul theek kaha ap ne quran se doori hi hmaare zawaal ki waja hy
    lekin ab phr b jahan tak mein ne note kya hy,log quran padhte hein aur un ka matlab b samajhne ki koshish karte hein

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    Assalamo Alaikum Wr Wb...!!


    Hope Sab Frndzzz Kheriyat Se Honge ............

    " Ek Sachayee Dunia Main Sabse Zyada Parhi Jane Wali Kitab Quran-E-Kareem Aur Ek Talkh Haqiqat Sabse Zyada Baghair Samjhe Parhi Jane Wali Kitab Bhi Quran-E-Kareem "

    Allah SWT Ne Hum Insano Ki Hidayat Ke Liye Apna Kalam Quran Ki Soorat Main Nazil Farmaya Jo Hamari Zindagi Ka Dastoor Bhi Hai .........

    Lekin Aaj Hum Quran Se Kitna door Hain Yeh Batane Ki Zaroorat Nahin Hai Quran Ko Parhte Bhi Hain To Bus Sawab Ki Niyat Se .... Ek Lafz Ko Bhi Samajh Ne Ki Koshish Nahin Karte Hain .....

    Quran Ko Hamne Reshmeen Khoobsurat Juzdano Main Saja Kar To Rakh Liya Lekin Yeh Nahin Dekhne Ki Koshish Ki Ke Allah SWT Hamein Kya Hukum Farma raha Hai ...........

    Aap Frndz Plz Apne Views Share Karein .......

    1. Kya Aaj Musalmano Ki Buri Halat Is Wajah Se Bhi Hai Ke Hum Quran Se Door Ho Gaye ?
    2. Kya Quran-E-kareem Galey Main Latkane Ke Liye Aya Tha Ya Hamari Hidayat Ke Liye ?
    3. Kya Quran-E-Kareem Ko Bus Totey Ki Tarhan Parh Lene Se Uska Huq Ada Ho Jata Hai ?
    4.Kya Quran-E-Kareem Ke Mutabiq ZIndagi Guzar Kar Hum Kamyab Nahin Ho sakte ?

    Intezar Rahega Aap Sabke Views Ka ............

    Khush Rahein Sab
    Fee Aman Allah
    Wa alekom assalam wrwb

    Boht hi umda topic chuna hai aap ne masha Allah.

    Sahi kaha k Quran e kareem wo kitab hai jo logon ko hidayat dainay k liye nazil farmi gayi hai..
    Arab k log arabi zuban boltay aur samjhtay thay isliye ALlah pak ne quran pak main jaga jaga kaha hai (Mafhoom)" k Ye quran tu hidayat hai aqal walon k liye" aur ye bhi k " Allah pak ne issi salees utara hai aur is main kisi qism ki kaji ya mushkil nahi rakhi, ta kay tum hidayat pa sako" "aur is ko arabi main utara ta kay tum samjh sako"

    Tu ab chonka humari zuban arabi nahi hai tu agar hum Quran pak ko parh lain ya beshak yaad bhi kar lain tu bhi hum samjh nahi saktay aur is main jo hidayat hain aur zindagi ka lah ya amal hai us se istafada nahi utha saktay... is kliye ya tu arabi zubaan ka ilm hasil karna ho ga ya phir is ko tarjuma k saath parhna zarori ho ga.

    1. Kya Aaj Musalmano Ki Buri Halat Is Wajah Se Bhi Hai Ke Hum Quran Se Door Ho Gaye ?

    Bilkul sahi kaha aap ne k hum isliye buray halaat main hain kiyon hum Quran pak ki hidayat se dor hain. Us main deen aur duniya dono main kamyabi k liye hidayat hai.


    2. Kya Quran-E-kareem Galey Main Latkane Ke Liye Aya Tha Ya Hamari Hidayat Ke Liye ?
    3. Kya Quran-E-Kareem Ko Bus Totey Ki Tarhan Parh Lene Se Uska Huq Ada Ho Jata Hai ?

    Quran pak main zindagi k har pehlo maslan, Hakomat ka nizaam chalanay se le kar zaati zindagi k baray main hidayat hai, bas amal ki zarorat hai. aur amal ussi surat ho sakta hai jab ap samjhyain aur us ki hidayat ko apni zindagion main shamil karyain.


    4.Kya Quran-E-Kareem Ke Mutabiq ZIndagi Guzar Kar Hum Kamyab Nahin Ho sakte ?

    Na sirf is duniya main kamiyaab ho saktay hain bulka aakhirat main bhi, ye deen aur duniya dono main kamiyaabi ka formula hai.


    Jazak Allah khairan kaseera, khush rahyain

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    jee main na pehlay be kaha tha ka meray pass app ki aik aik baat ka jawab hai...
    or Rasool (saww) or unn ka sihaba ki toheen kon kerta aya hai or kiss ki books main sa hain....ya be prove ker doon gi.....lakin lagta hai app na apni boooks pari nae or na hee tareekh ki books pari ahin apni.
    dosri baat rahi Ehley tashee ki books ki tu hum unnay app ki tara Quran ka Baad en kitaabon ko utni ahmiyat nae daitay jitni app sahe sitta ko daitay ho......hamray nazdeek sab say bari book asool kafi main be kafi ko ikhtilaaf hai...or jis cheez ya jis maslay ya hadees main kuch shubba ho wahan jab tak 3 or ossi paey ki books sa rajoo ker kay hee kuch fatwa dia jata hai.....wo aik baat jis par sab alim or aqeli tor par mutafiq ho wohi sahi qarar di jati hai.....
    rahi batain dosri tu main wo be app hee ki books say sabit ker don gi......or app na Hazrat Ali (A.s) ka jo irshadaat diay......wo jin sihaba ka baray main wo be tafseel sa par laitay tu acha tha....ya wohi sihaba hai jinno na waqi Nabi(saww) ki sunnat par ammal kia or unn ko essi baat ki sazza be di gaey thi..
    Baqi aik or tafseer ka kaha ..........tu baraey meharbani pehlay apni tafaseer be chek kar lain app ka mashoor tareen tafaseer main be ess ayat ki yahi tafseer ki gaey hai.....or app ki sahe sitta main be hai ya waqiaa jab Hazrat Ali ki walayat ka ammal wajood main aya tha....
    ya ayat hai sorah maida ki(67)
    or ya En ehlay sunnat ki tafaseer main hai.....bulkay or be ayat hain hazrat ali ka mutaiq jin ki tafseeer app ki en tafaseer main hain
    lijey ya list
    hafiz abu naeem isfahani(nazool-ul Quran)
    imaam abul hassan wahdi nishapori(tafseer kashafo walbiyaan)
    imaam abu ishaaq salbi nisha pori
    hafiz hakim hiskani hanfi(shiwahdil tanzeel ul qawaid el tafseel wal taweel)
    imam fakhar ul deen razi shafi(tafseer kabeer)
    hafiz jilal ul deen siyoti shafi(tafseer al dar-e mansoor)
    hafiz abul qasim iben asaaker shafi(tareekh damash)
    or be chahiyaaa 20 tu filhaal hain meray passs
    app shyed hamari books parnay say pehlay apni parh laitay tu kabi mujay ya na kehtay ka meray ander ya hamari books main keena or bughaz hai.....
    ya sab enni sahee sitta say main na references diay hain.....
    or hum apnay imamo ko kia samjtay hain ..........wohi jo Aik Rasool ka jansheen honay ka natay hona chahiyaa ......
    baqi jin bataon ki ap baat ker rahay hain sab ka jawab hain meray pass.......jo abi ho raha hai or jo pehlay ata raha hai un sab ka jawab hai meray hai...
    inshallah app ko sab sabit ker don gi app hee ki books say..
    ap ka sihaba ki shaan ki shaan be or apnay imaamo ka masoom honay tak her aik cheez....
    chaliyaa bas aik din or wait ker lain app ko app ka aqeeda toheed say lay ker adeeda sunnat or wahan say aqeeda sihaba tak her aik baat or wo be ap ki books say app ki tafaseer say app ki tareekh ki books say inshallah...
    Khuda hafiz

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    Aap Kya Sabit Kar Rahee Hain WOh Sab Nazar Aaraha Hai ........

    Ek Baar Phir SE Yehi Kahunga Ke Apni Baat Kijiye Kon KYa Karke Gaya Aap Isme Nahin Parhein To Zyada Behtar Hai .........

    Alhamdolillah Apni Kitabo Ka Ilm Hai....... Mene Abhi Ahle Tasheeh Ki Aur Kitabo Ka ZIkr To Kiya Hi Nahin Jisme Saaf Saaf Galiyan di gayee Hain Aur Kisi Ko Nahin Chora Gaya Na Ahle Bayt Ko Na Sahaba Kiram Ko Aur Na Rasool SAWW Ko ........... Kin Kitabon Ki Baat Kar Rahee Hain Aap Jab Aapke Logon Ka Hi Un per Aitmad Nahin ?
    Alhamdolillah Sahee Bukhari Aur Sahee Muslim per Ahle Sunnah Ke Sare Aulma Kiram ka Ijma Hai Aur Rahee Sahe SIttah Ki Doosri Books Ki Baat To unme Kuch Ahdees Aisi Hain Jo Sanad Ke Aitbar se Bukhari Aur Muslim Ke Barabar nahin Yeh bhi Mention kiya hua hai Hadees ke sath....... Aap Apni hi kitabein parho hamari Kotabo ko bhool jao ............ Apni Books ko pariye aur phir unhe Quran Ahdees se milayein sab kuch samne ajayga........

    Hazrat Ali R.A. Ko Allah Ke Rasool SAWW Se martabe main barha batana kya sabit karta hai ? aur Quran Main Tehreef ka Aqeeda kiska hai ?

    Hum Aaj Kya hain Aur Hamare Aqeede Kya Hain Is Per baat kijiye Sahaba Kiram AUr Ahle Bayt Ki Baat Ko Aap Janein dein .......!!!

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    Mujay koe shoq nae tha ya sab share kernay ka lakin kuch logon na mujay majbor kia.....ya keh ker ka fiqqa jafria ya shia kafir hotay hain....ab koe be insaan apnay fiqqy ka baray main aisa kuch nae sun sakta....Ajj RAsool-e-Khuda ki baray main jo Mushraqeen taheen ker rahay hain....ossi ka tanazer main ahlay sunnat ki books say hadees or rawayat liee hain.
    hum na kisi ko bora kehtay hain na kafir....jo haq sach baat hai or jo Ehaly sunnat ki kitabbon main darj hai wohi baat karon gi....koe be baat apni book sa apni daleel say apni aqel say nae karon gi......
    jee dill say baqi batain baad main pehlay jo ilzaam abi app na lagaya zara esay app hee ki books say wazia kerti hon
    hamaray fiqqa main bilkul be Quran ki tehreef nae ki gaey...koe be Quran utha ker daikh lain wohi aik hee hai....or na hum aisa soch saktay hain
    bulkay hum ya soch hee nae saktay ka kisi be firqa main ess ki tehreef ki gaey ho gi...kuinka khuda na khud keh dia hai ka ess main koe be change nae ho sakta .....ya aik mojza hai
    rahi baat ap ka hawala dainay ki tu hamaray haan aik qabil-e-aitaraaz...jo shia ka mutabiq be qabil-e-aitaraaz hai..naam hai (fass-lul khitab fe isbate tehreef kitab rab-el arbaab)
    ess ka moallaf ka naam mohammad taqi nori tabarsi hai..ya shaks shia tha...ab app jaisay ataraaz kernay walay chahtay hain ka ess ki zummadari shion par dall di jaey....ya tu koe insaaf na howa na
    kitni hee aise kitabain likhi gaey jo apnay musanaf ya moallaf ki sewa kisi ki raey ki numaindgi nae kerti...en kitabon main her kisam ki batain or galat sahee mazomeen hotay hain
    or ya koe shia ki khasosiat nae...sab firqon main ess kissam ki batain pae jati hain..bulkay ya ilzaam ahlay sunnat par ziada ziada sahi ho ga phir..
    ab kia ya darust ho ga ka hum Quran or zamana jahaliat ka ashaar ka mataliq Misar ka sabiq wazeer-e-taleem umeed-ul adab-el-arabi Dr. taa' hussain ki tehreeron ki zummadari saray ahlay sunnat par dall dain?
    Ya Quran main kammi ya Ziadati say matalq en rawayaat ki zummadari jo sahee bukhari or sahee muslim main mojood hain ..app par or sab ahley sunnat par dall dain..(refrences chahiya tu wo be mil jaein gay)
    App ko Shia ka Quran utha ker daikh lain ya mujay batain ka kahan howe hai tehreef?
    ager app sirf books ki baat ker rahay hain tu phir ya ilzaam tu mujay app par lagana chahiya ka app en sahee sitta books ko Quran ka baad sab say ziada darja daitay hain
    or unni main hai ya sab tehreef ka mutalq rawayat..meray pass bohat sari rawayat hain(jaisa aya rajjam wali ayat jo hazrat umer say rawayat hai,,,,or razaa't wali ayat jo hazrat aysha sa rawayat hai jabka dosri azwaaj es ka khilaaf thien...abu mosa Ashari ki rawayat,,iben kaa'b ki rawayat jo aik baray qari manay jatay thay)...jo inshallah subu scan ker kay doon gi..ka Jo ayat ki kami baishe ka ziker howa hai app ki books main...
    .hamray haaan tu jis book main app ko kuch shubba ho app oss ka matailq likhnay walay sa poch saktay hain...os par fatwa lag saktay hain...ager wo baat ya hadees sunnat-e-Rasool ya Quran ka khilaaf jati ho tu wo sahi nae mani jati....ya nae ka bas ager sahee sitta main hai tu sab theek hai...aisa bilkul nae hai hamray haan..
    ess ka bawajood hum shia ka ya manna hai ka chahay wo ahelay sunnat ho ya koe or firqa Quran main kabi be tehreef nae ho sakti...
    ab ager koe aisa sochta hai tu ya oss ka zahen ka qasoor hai ya oss ki aqel ka...ya oss ka maqsad sirf shia firqay ko badnaam kerna hai..
    abi tu yahi abi Inshallah app ko shia ka mazhab oss ka aqeeda,toheed,nabowat or khilafat be batati hon....
    ya sab app na jo kaha wo sirf sunni suanaey batain hain ..shia ko badnaam kernay ka liay...
    aeiy main app ko batati hon shia hotay kon hain...ya kaisa banna firqaa...or essay app ki sahee sitta books say or app ki tareekh say or app ki hee tafseer say sabit karon gi inshallah
    shoro kerti hon...Shoro kerti hon toheed say.......tu hamara pehla ikhtilaaf Roweat BAri Tallah hai...Ahlay sunnat ka mutabiq kuinka bahz ess baat ka inkari hain...ya ya kehna theek ho ga ka bukhari or musllim ki rawayat ka mutabiq sab momineen ko Allah ka deedar naseeb ho ga.
    bukhari or muslim ki rawayat ka reference chihiay tu mil jaey ga...abi sir main baat ker rahi hon aqaid ki....hamra aqeeda kia hai ess baray main...
    Imam Ali(a.s( kehtay hain ka ...himmat kitni hee buland parwazi say kaam lay or aqel kitni hee gehraey main ghotay lagaey...Allah ki zaat ka idraak namumkin hai...ess ki siffat ki koe had nae..na oss ki tareef mumkin hai or oss ka koe waqet mueyan hai or na zamana muqarrar hai...
    Imam baqir(a.s) ess baray main kehtay hain...ka hum chahay jis cheez ka tasawar zehan main laaein or oss ka baray main jitna be sochain hamaray zahen main jo be tasweer ubray gi wo hamari tara ki makhlooq ho gi....Matlib ka Khuda ka baray main sochna be namumkin hai. oss jaise koe cheez nae, or ankhain oss ka idraak nae ker sakti or soch oss ko pa nae sakti.
    Ab nabowat par baat aey tu ya zaroor ahi ka hum apni books say istifada kertay hain lakin jahan be kisi shia or ya kisi or ko koe baat kisi tara be islaam ka or sunnat-e-Rasool or Quran ka khilaaf lagay wahan Mujtahid mil ker oss par fatwa laga daitay hain...ya nae daikhtay ka kon see kitaab hai or kis alim na likhi hai.
    ya bilkul galat hai ka hamaray haan Hazrat Ali(A.S) ko Nabi sa afzal samjtay hain....app muja aik be book dikha dain jahan aisa likha ho....haan ya baat zaroor hai ka app Nabi(saww) ko oss darja tak nae samjtay jahan tak hum sajmtay hain...phir jab Rasool(saww) ka darja daikhiey hamray haan or phir Hazrat ali(a.s) ka tu phir ya baat kabi nae kahain ga ka hum hazrat ali ko afzal samjtay hain
    haan kuch books main chonka sirf hazrat ali(a.s) ka fazail hon ga tu app ko aisa mehsoos howa ho ga...coz app ka nazdeek jo darja nabowat hai oss sa tu afzal hee hain hazar ali(a.s)
    hamaray haan nabowat main shia ess baat ka qail hain ka nabi basat say pehlay be masoom hota hai or basat ka baad be..Nabi or specially OLUl AzZAm Anbiaa or oss say be bar ker Unn sab ka sardaar Hazrat Mohammad(saww) tamam khataon, laghzishon or ghunahon say pak hain chahay wo ghunna chotay hon ya barray,App(saww) pak hain her galti or bool chook say ,jado ka assar say or her oss cheez say jis sa aqel mutasar hoti ho,
    app pak hain her oss cheez say jo sharafat or Akhlaaq-e-hameeda ka munafi ho..jaisay rastay main khana, ya qehqaha laga ker hansana, ya aisa mazak kerna jis main jhot ki amazish shamil ho, gharz ka hum tu app ko basher samjtay hee nae..App (saww) Nori hain or chahay jo book be utha ker daikh lain App(s.aww) ka saya nae hota tha...ka saya tu bashar ka hota hai...Noor ka nae.
    or Ahlay sunnat ya unnn ki kitabain kia kehti hain wo meray liay naqabilay biyaan hai...main na jab bukhari pari thi peli daffa tu beikhtiar dill main aya ka kia Nabi(saww) aisay thay?
    Ajj ager salman rashdi(maloon) ko RAsool(saww) ko nazobillah SATANIC VERSES or rajpaal ko rangeela RAsool kehnay ki himmat howe hai or aisay dosray beshumaar musharqeen ko Hittak-e-Rasool ka moqa milla hai tu oss ka liay ya sahee bukhari or sahee muslim ka mawaaq hee kafi hai
    app hum shia pa ilzaam lagatay ho ka hum Hazrat ali ko Rasool say Bara darja daitay hain Nozubillah aik be book dikha dain...hum tu oss ki shia hee nae mantay jo aisa sochay be...haan kuch marifaat ki batain app ki samj mai kabi aa hee nae sakti ka app tu RAsool ko bukhari ki nazer say daikhtay ho.
    Ajj be jab main wo sari rawayat daikh rahi thi tu meray hubby na paker ker book phaink di ka aisee wahiyaat hadees ya rawayat na para karo.
    main kis munh say hazrat aysha or baqi sihaba ki shaan main biyaan ke gaey ahadees paron app ki books say......jiss main RAsool ki insult ker kay sihaba ki shaan bataey ja rahi ho?
    kaisay app khud hee batao......
    To be continued.....

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    challain aisa hai tu nae maan laite hon ka hamari books main Hazrat ali ki fazeelat ziada biyaan ki gaey hai par kahin aisa likha nazer aya ka Hazoor(saww) ki insult ker kay Hazrat ali ki shaan biyaan ki gaey ho?
    hum tu books par aisa imaan be nae rakhtay...jaisa app en books par rakhtay ho.....hamray liay pehlay Quran phir Ahley bait or phir 3rd par sihaba ya ulma hain.
    ya lain kuch rawayat bukhari or sahi musslim say or next time kabi be kisi shia ko kafir ya gumrah kehnay ki jurat na kerna.....ka tumari books hee tumaray khillaaf jati hain
    main app ko choti say lay ker bari sa bari baat tak sab app ki boooks say sabit ker sakti hon. wo aqaid jin ka shia qail hain app ki books main be hain
    bas hum kisi Ghustak-e-RAsool ko wo darja nae daitay...Haan jo sihaba thay unn ka laiy jaan be qurbaan ho..
    en main bahz aise rawayaat hain ka aurat honay ka natay main tu unnay biyaan be nae ker sakti lakin app loog unni ko hazrat aysha say munsilak kertay ho or phir kehtay ho ka unn ki shaam main ghustakhi ker rahay hain
    shoro kerti hon enn 2 mashoor ayat say
    Ka wo(HAZoor.saww) apni taraf say kuch nae kehtay ..wo wahi hoti hai wohi kehtay hain
    or sorah hasher main hai ka
    jis cheez ka Rasool hukam dain wo bajja laoo or jis say manna ker dain os say baaz raho,
    ab Quran main bohat sari aise cheezain hain jo wazia nae thien tu unn ki tafseer ka liay he Khuda na unnay baija...
    jaisay namaz ka kaha gia Quran main , rozay ka or zakaat ka ,haj ka , lkain ya sab kaisa bajja lana hai ya sab Rasool-e-Khuda na bataya..
    shoro kerti hon hazrat umer say...
    barawayat sahee muslim ,sahee bukhari)Jab Hazoor (saww) bemaar howay tu app na pass biathay howay logon say kaha ka mujay qalam or khagihz do taka main tumaray liay tehreer ya wasiat chor jaon.. taka meray baad tum gumrah na ho sako..(yaad rahay Quran main sakhti ka sath kaha gia hai ka wasiat ker ka jao or qurabatdaron ko un ka haq da ker jao , taka baad main koe jagra na ho)
    ess par hazrat Umer na kaha ka hamaray liay kitaab Allah hee kafi hai or Hazoor par dard ka galba hai....ess par pas baithay llgon main ikhtilaaf shoro ho gaey or shor mach gia jis par Hazoor(saww) naraz howay or kaha meray pass say uth jao.
    ya tu thi aik rawayat,
    dosri main kuch yon hai ka haey wo din be kia din tha .....Anhazoor ki takleef barh gaey tu app na kaha ka mujay qlam khagiz do taka main tumaray liay tehreer chor jaon taka meray baad tum ghumara na ho sako ..ess par kuch logon na kaha ka es mard ko tu choro ya tu hizyaan(bakwas) keh raha hai hamaray liay kitab Allah hee kafi hai.....ess par dosray logon main ikhtilaaf ho gia kuch kehtay thay ka khagaz qlam do taka wo tehreer likh sakain or kuch kehtay thay naae Allah ki kitaab hee kafi hai
    ess par Anhazoor(saww) gussay main aa gaey or kaha meray pass say uth jao,,, ya mukhtalif rawai say mukhtalif tara say likhi gaey hai...lakin jumlay sab yahi hain.....or ya kisi shia ki book main nae sahee sitta main hain sair rawayatt..
    ab ager oss time Anhazoor na ager ya kaha hota ka meray baad meri sunnat kafi ahi tu phir oss time hazrat umer ya be kehtay na ka hamaray liay Kitab Allah or sunnat kafi hai
    Or jaisa ka main na dilsay sa pocha tha tu unno na oss time kaha ka sahee bukhari or sahee muslim main ya hadees nae hai kahin be.....sirf kitab Allah ka ziker hai..
    jahan ya rawayat hain wo ABi pehlay reply main en ka nazdeek itni aaham nae jitni ab sahee bukhari or sahee muslim hain...( ya be ajeeb policy hai jab main kuch mango reference tu dosri books say dia jata hai.. or ager main dosri say don tu wo itni aehm or mustannnad nae hoti)
    ab mujay bataey ka hazrat umer ko kia dar tha ....kuin nae likhnay di wo tehreer?
    jabka Nabi koe be baat khud sa nae kehta...ya be app bar bar mujay yaad dilatay ho....
    chaliay agay chaltay hain...main kia manti hon or kin ko manti hon wo abi main baad main sabit kerti hon
    pehlay app say aik sawal hai?
    kia app kisi ko be chahay wo app ka behad qareebi dost ho app oss say apni or apni biwi ki khalwat ki i mean tanhae wali batain share kerna passand karain gay?
    app oss say apnay relataion ka baray main baat karain ga?
    koe be ghairat mand aisa nae keray ga...tu phir app Na hazoor ko kia rutba dia howa hai jo ya sab sahee bukhari or sahee muslim main milta hai?
    app hazrat aysha ki fazeelat main itnay agay challay gaey ka RAsool ki koe izzat hee nae? un ka ander koe ghiarat hee nae thi kia?
    Kahin apna rukhsaar hazrat aysha ka rukhsar par rakhay howay habshiyon ka tamasha daikh rahay hain..tu kabi apni biwi ko kanday par uthaey phir rahay hain.kahin aysha ka sath door laga rahay hain or aysha app par galib aa jati hai
    phir app muntazir rehtay hain yahan tak ka app motay tazay ho jatay hain phir muqablia kertay hain or kehtay hain ya tumari kaat hai, kahin aurtain daff bajja arhi hoti hain or aap un ko kandon par liay hotay hain or yahantak ka abu baker aysha ko jiraktay hain
    kahin par ya hai ka
    aik roz Anhazoor ki dosri azwaaj na hazrat fatima ko or baad main hazrat zainab ko Rasool ki kidmat main baija or mutaliba kia ka App(saww) aysha or dosri azwaaj ka darmiyaan addal karain(yani wo Rasool ko ummat ko bata raha hai ka apni bewiyon ka darmiyaan adal rakho , khud be adal hai)
    agay rawayat yon hai ka zanaib Rasool ki kidmat main ati hain ka daikhti hain RAsool aysha k pass laitay hain or aysha ki tangon par kapra nae hai(mashallah kia izzat hai Nabi ki be or Nabi ki azwaaaj ki be) zainab azwaj nabi ki taraf say Nabi say insaaf ka mutaliba kerti hain or phir aysha par baras parti hain...tu Rasool ko hansi aa jati ahi oar kehtay hain ya abu baker ki baiti hai...
    pehlay tu Rasool apni biati ka anay par uthtay be nae, aysha ka paron par chader be nae...or aisay hee laitay howay muskara ker baat ko tall jatay hain......wah rah musalmaan...yani Addal main hazrat ummer jaisa sani nae or Rasool ko biwiyon ka darmiyaan adal kerna nae ata...
    agay daikhiyaa ya sab rawayat hain sahee bukhari ki jis ko reference chahiya mil sakti hain ....khud be par ker daikh lay...
    sahee muslim apnay baab usman ben affan main usman ka fazail biyaan kertay howay kehta hai rawi hain aysha or usman
    pehli yon hai ka aik din hazrat abu baker RAsool(saww) ka pass aey app oss waqet hazrat aysha ka pass laitay howay thay...abu baker aey or apni hajat biyaan ki or chalay gaey....hazoor aisay hee laitay rahay, phir umer aey or uno na apni hajat biyaan ki or chalay gaey lakin app aisay hee laitay rahay, phir jab usmaan aey tu Anhazoor(saww) na aysha say kaha ka apnay kapray theek ker lo... aysha kehti hain ka usmaan ka janay ka baad main na ANhazoor say pocha ka app meray walid or umer ka anay par itnay nae ghabraey or usman ka anay par kuin gabra gaey tu unno na kaha ka usman say tu malika be sharam khatay hain
    dosri rawayt main hazrat usman say jo hai wo yon hai
    ka aik din Anhazoor Ran kholay biathay thay ka abu baker na baryabi ka liay ijazat chahi app na ijazat da di lakn rano par kapra na dalla, phir umer na ijazat chahi app na un ko be ijazat da di lakin aisay hee laitay rahay,,, lakin jab usmaan na ijazat chahi tu Rasool na raho ko chuppa lia or kapray darust ker ka baith gaey jab aysha na ess ki wajja pochi tu kaha ka kia main ess shakhs say sharam na khaon jiss say malika be sharam khatay hain
    wah ki shaan hai sihaba ki or kia shaan biyaan hai RAsool or unn ki hurmat ki
    Khuda gharat keray bani ummiyya ko jin ki dor main ya sab ahadees ki books likhi gaey....ab be app kehtay ho galiaan na dain lannat na karin tu or kia karin
    abi tu ya kuch be nae hai
    agay daikho
    muslim na apnay sahee ka itika ikhtanain say ghussal wajib ho janay walay baab main Zoja RAsool say rawayat ki hai ka aik shakhs na Rasool say daryafat kia ka Apni biwi sa shubat ka baad jab badan sust par jata hai tu kia dono miyaan biwi par ghusal wajib hai tu aysha pass hee baithi howe thi Rasool na farmaya ka main or aysha aisa hee kertay hain or phir ghussal kertay hain
    mujay ya likhtay howay sharram aa rahi hai.....
    seha main aisee beshumaar rawayat hai jin ka maqsad sirf Toheen Rasool hee sabit hota hai
    kabi ya rawayat ka RAsool par sehar ker dia jata tha tu app ya nae samj pata thay ka main kia ker raha hon ,,kia keh raha hon yahantak ka app khiyal kertay ka azwaj main koe app ka pass hai halanka aisa hota nae tha...
    ap subu tak halat jinabat main rehtay thay or subu uth ker baghair wazoo ka namaz parnay lagtay
    namaz main shak ho jata tha tu ya nae samj patay thay ka kitni rakuat namaz pari hai(subhanAllah)
    Sari ummat ki shifat kernay walay ka liay likha hai ka unnay ya nae pta tha ka roz-e-mehshar un ka kia ho ga or un ka sath kia salook ho ga.
    ess ka ilawa beshumar rawayat hain sahee bukhari or sahee muslim main or dosri sahe sitta ki kitabon main tu waziah hain.....ka en sab na Anhazoor ki nafarmani ki thi....
    Ya tu bohat kam hain main tu maray sharram ka wo likh hee nae sakti haan scan ker ka albatta app ko zaroor show keron gi......phir daikhey ga ka shia Anhazoor ko kia rutba daitay hain or en kitabon main kia likha gia hai..
    hamari kisi kitaab main aisee toheen amaiz rawayat ya ahadees nae hain.......ager koe likhnay ki jurat be kerta hai tu wo fiqqa jafaria say hergiz nae rahay ga. oss pa fatwa laga dia jaey ga ya osay sazza ka mustahiq Qaraar dia jaey ga.
    Ab rah gaey khilafat ki baat tu pehlay chand ahadees jo app hee kitaabon main hain
    hum kia karainn hum tu bas wohi kertay hain jo Allah or RAsool kehtay hain...Ab phir be app samjtay ho shia kafir hain tu app ki soch or aqel ka kia karon...ka wohi baatain app ki books main be hain
    Ab aa gae baat khilafat-o-imamat par
    tu dillsay sahib ap na jo mujay tafseer ka hawala dia tha....wo aik hai main app ko beshumar da sakti hon...or kuch tu pehlay reply main da chuki hon
    ka kam iz kam ess waqet meray pass Ahlay sunnat ki baray baray ulma ki tareekh or tafseer or hadees ki kitabon main be es rawayat ka hawala hai
    ya ayat hai sorah maieda ki..47 aya hai..ka
    Aeh RAsool(saww) pohancha do wo hukam jo tumaray parwardigar ki taraf say tumaray pass aya hai or ager tum na aisa na kia tu goya tum na oss ka koe pigham pohnchaya hee nae....or Allah tumay logon ka shar say mehfooz rakhay ga..
    Ab jab ka main bata chuki hon ka bohat saray Ahlay sunnt ka mashoor ulma ki tafseer or tareekh or hadees ki kitabon main be yahi aya hai ka ya aya hazrat ali ka liay utri thi..oss waqet jab RAsool(saww) Hujjat-ul-widda main makka or madina ka darmiyaan aik wadi khum main oontni par sawar thay.
    wahee ka booj sa oonti ka khanda toot gia tu app nechay utar gaey.
    agay barnay say pehlay main aik or rawayat pehlay batati challon
    Ahmad or abu abaid apni kitaab Fazail main , nihaas api kitaab nasikh main or Nissaey,iben munzir,hakim,iben mardoya or behaqqi apni sunnan main Hubair ben nofeer say rawayat kertay hain ka hubair na kaha ka main Huj kernay gia tu Hazrat aysha say be milnay gia....unno na kaha hubair tum na sorah maieda pari hai..
    main na kaha jee haan...kehnay lagi ka ya akhir sorat hai jo nazil howe ...ess main jis cheez ko halaal pao osay halaal samjo or jissay haram pao osay haraaam samjo.
    ahmad or termizi na be ya rawayat naqil ki hai or hakim na essay sahi or ahsaan kaha hai...iben mardoya or behaqqi na be ya rawayat naqil ki hai ka Abdulllah iben umer na nazool ka aitabaar say sorah maieda akhir sorat bataey hai
    wo Ahlay sunnat ki kitab jin main ya rawayat ya tafseer hai
    hafiz abu naeem isfahani(nazool-ul Quran)
    imaam abul hassan wahdi nishapori(tafseer kashafo walbiyaan)
    imaam abu ishaaq salbi nisha pori
    hafiz hakim hiskani hanfi(shiwahdil tanzeel ul qawaid el tafseel wal taweel)
    imam fakhar ul deen razi shafi(tafseer kabeer)
    hafiz jilal ul deen siyoti shafi(tafseer al dar-e mansoor)
    hafiz abul qasim iben asaaker shafi(tareekh damash)
    musnnad imam ahmad,
    tafseer jami-ul biyaan(tibri)
    tafseer kabeer(razi)
    siwaeq-e-moharriqa(iben hajar asqalani)
    darqatni,behaqi,khateeb baghdadi, or shaher satani na be en waiaqat ko apni kitabon main naqil kia hai
    ess ka ilawa be hain lakin main ab kitnay yahan share karon
    Ess aya ko madenaze rakhtay howay...
    imam ahmad na apni jild 4 main zaid ben arqam say rawayt ki hai wo kehtay hain ka hum Rasool(saww) ka sath aik wadi main utray jo wadi khum ka naam sa mashoor thi.
    Rasool(saww) na namaaz ka hukam dia hum na namaz pari, ess ka baad App(saww) na aik khutba dia...doop bohat thi oss ki wajja say app ka liay aik darakht par kapra phaila dia gia...
    phir RAsool(saww) na farmaya kia tum nae jantay kia tum gawahi nae daitay ka mera tum par khud tum say ziada haq hai...logon na kaha ..beshak hai ..es par App(saww) na kaha ka jis jis ja main mola hon oss ka ali be mola hain...Aeh Allah jo ess say dosti rakhay tu be oss say dosti rakh jo es say dushmani rakhay tu be oss say dushmani rakh..
    .....yahi hadees Imam nisaey na apni kitab alkhasais main Khasais-e-imeer-ul-momineen main zaid ben arqam say rawayat ki hai ka
    zaid ben arqam na kaha ka jab hujjatul-widda sa wapis atay howay RAsool-e-Khuda na Ghadeer-e-khum ka muqaam par utray tu app na darkhton ki jar jankhar saaf kernay ka hukam dia,,,phir app na kaha aisa maloom hota hai mera bullawa aa gia hai or main ja raha hon,,,,main tumaray darmiyaan 2 cheezain chor raha hon..aik cheez dosri cheez say bari hai...Kitab Allah or meri itrat yani meray ahlaybait..
    daikho meray baad tum en say kia salook kertay ho..
    ya dono cheezain khhoz par ana tak aik dosray say her giz judda na hon gi...phir kaha beshak Allah mera mola hai or main har momin ka walli hon phir app na Hazrat ali ka hath paker ker kaha ..jis ka main walli hon ya be oss ka walli hain...aeh Allah jo ali say dosti rakhay to be os say dosti rakh or jo un say dushmani rakhay tu be oss say dushmani rakh.
    Abu tofail kehtay hain main na zaid ben arqam say pocha kia tum na khud Rasool Allah ko ya farmatay sunna hai,,zaid na kaha jitnay be loog wahan qareeb thay sab na apni ankhon say daikha or kano say sunna...
    yahi rawayat hukim nisha pori na zaib ben arqam sa 2 tareeqon sa rawayat ki hai or essay dono tareeqon say Alla sharte-shaikhain(bukhari-musllim) sahi kaha hai.
    Musllim main be yahi rawat hai lakin kuch mukhtasar ker kay...or likha hai ka Kitab Allah or meri ahlay bait or main tumay apnay Ahlay bait ka baray main khuda ko yaad dillata hon or ya be likha hai ka app na ya jumlay 3 baar kahay.
    tibrani na sahee sannad say muejum kabeer main zaid ben arqam or huzeefa ben useed ghuffari say be ya rawayat biyaan ki hai......jis ka khullasa be yahi hai
    iben hajjar na sewaeq-e-moharriqa main, kinzul ammal, fazail-ul hamsata min sehaey sitta jild 1 main be hai..
    mussannad ahmad main Imaam Ahmad na apni jild 4 main barra ben azib say 2 tareeqon say ya rawayat biyaan ki hai,,,ka hum Rasool ka sath thay jab ghadeer khum ka maidan main utray tu Moezzan na azzan ka liay pukara..RAsool na darkhton ka jhund main jagga saaf ker kay namaz pare...phir Ali ka hath paker ker farmaya ka kia tumay maloom nae ka mera tum momineen par khud tum say ziada haq hai
    sab na kaha haan malom hai,,,sab na iqraar kia tabb app na hazrat ali ka hath paker ker kaha
    jis ka main mola oss ka ali mola....aeh Allah jo ess say dushmani rakhay tu oss say dushmani rakh jo un say dosti rakhay tu on say dosti rakh.......oss ka baad hazrat ummer hazrat ali say milay tu bolay iben abi Talib mubarik ho tum aj say her momin or momina ka mola ben gaey ho
    en sab ka baad be app shia par ya ilzaam lagain tu acha nae lagta.....ka munker Rasool tu app khud ho hemin kuin kehtay ho..
    sorah maieda ki aik or ayat hai jiss say sab saaf ho jata hai.
    tumaray walli tu bass Allah or oss k Rasool or wo momineen hain jo pabandi say namaaz partay hain...Rakooh ki halat main zakaat daitay hain, jo koe allah or oss ka Rasool or unn momino ki waliyat qabool karay ga wohi Allah ki jamat main dakhil ho ga ...beshak Allah ki hee jamaat galba panay wali hai(sorah maida aya 55-56)
    ab shia ulma or tafseer ko choriaey....ahlay sunnat ki beshumaar ulma na ess baat ka iqraar kia hai ka ya be hazrat ali ka baray main.....wo list baad main daiti hon pehalay ess ka sath jurra waqiaa
    Abu ishaaq saelbi apni tafseer kabeer main apni asnaad say abu zar ghuffari say ya rawayat biyaan ki hai
    abu zar kehtay hain ka main na Rasool khuda say sunna hai.na sunna ho tu kaan phat jain..or apni ankhon say daikha ahi na daikha ho tu ankhain andi ho jain...ka app na farmaya ka ali naikiyon ko rawaj dainay walay or kuffer ko mitanay walay hain....kamyaab ahi jo en ki madad karay ga or nakaam hai jo en ki madad chor day ga..
    agay kehtay hain ka aik din main RAsool ka sath namaz par raha tha ka aik mangnay walal masjid mai aa gia ...saray namaz par rahay tha..kisi na osay kuch nae dia....ali be namaz par rahay thay...unno na apna hath agay ker dia or sail na un ki choti ungli say anghoti utar li...ess par RAsool Allah na dua ki ka ae meray Khuda mosa na tuj say dua ki thi ka aeh Allah mera seena khol day or mera kaam asaan ker day ...meri zubaan ki giira khol da taka meri baat loog samj sakain or meray apno main say meray bhai haroon ko mera madadgar banna taka mujay taqwiiyyat hasil ho ..osay mera shareek kar banna day taka hum kasrat say tujay yaad karian.
    tab tu na onnay wahi baiji ka aeh mosa tumari dua qabool ho gaey .....Aeh allah main ve tera banda or nabi hon mera be seena khol da..mera kaam be asaan ker da or meray apno main say ali ko mera madadgar banna taka main ess say apni kammar mazboot ker sakon......abuzar kehtay hain ka abi RAsool(saww) ki ya baat pori be nae howe thi ka ya aya nazil howe...(sorah maieda 55-56)
    en sab say mera koee maqsad nae sirf app na jo ilzaam lagaya wo sab ki tasdeeq app ki books say ker rahi hon
    en ka illawa ahlay sunnat ki
    tafseer kishaaf un haqaiq-e-tanzeel(jar-ullah mehmood ben umer zumhashri)
    tafseer jami-ul biyaan(hafiz mohamad ben jareer tibri)
    tafseer zadul maisaar fe illam-e-tafseer(sibbt iben jozi)
    tafseer kabeer(imaam fakhar-ul deen razi shafi jild 12)
    tafseer durre mansoor(hafiz jilaal-ul deen siyoti)
    tafseer Quran ul azeem(ismaeel ben ummer almaroof iben kaseer)
    tafseer Alquran ul kareem(abu-ul barakaat abdullah ben ahmad nasfi)
    Asbab-ul-nazool(imam abu-ul hassan wahdi nisha pori)
    Ahkaam-ul Quran(abu baker ahmad ben ali hanfi)
    ess ka illawa beshumar ahadees or tareek ki books main
    sorah nissa ki aya 59-60
    Aeh imaan walo Ataat karo Allah ki or oss ka RAsool ki or unn ki jo tum main Oolil ammar ahin or ager tum main say kisi baat par koe nizzah(jagra)paida ho jaey tu oss ko lutta do Allah or RAsool ki taraf...ager tum imaan rakhtay ho Allah or roz-e-akhirat par..ya acha tareeqa hai or ess ka injaam behtar hai
    ess ka liay be meray pass lambi list hai ahlay sunnat ki jinno na es main Olil ammar hazrat ali ko kaha hai..
    jin main main
    sahee muslim(fazail Ali iben abi talib main)
    tirmizi na apni jamia tarmizi main
    niasaey na Khasais ammer-ul-momineen
    Ahmad na musand ahmad main
    hukim na Almustadrik main
    or be dairon Mashoor Alim Ahlay sunna na ya tehreer kia hai
    tu hum enni ki bais par Ali ko imam barhaq or Rasool ka baad Wali mantay hain
    apnay pass say kuch nae lagaya.....sab Quran or hadees ka mutabiq
    app na aik or Q kia tha ka app hadayat ya illam laitay kahan say ho tu sunnain mera jawab
    RAsool-e-Khuda ki ya ahadees tu app ki books main hee hain na....main koee be cheez apni kitaab say nae da rahi
    tu ya hadees app ki books say hee hain na
    KA meray baad 12 khulfa hon gay....
    or ya ka meray baad meray khulfa ki sunnat par amal kerna(hamaray haan ya sahi nae mani jati kuinka ess tara shareeat ka mahiz 2 ki bajaey 3 ho jatay hain. Quran,sunnat-e-Rasool or phir sunnat-e-khulfa)
    lakin es ka hawala hai hamari books main
    chalain ab daikh lain
    hum na Quran or RAsool ka faman ka mutabiq or ess ki gawahi app ki books daiti hain.....hum na Ali(a.s) ko RAsool(saww) ka baad Pehla walli or pehla khalifa mana hai
    or chonka Farman-e-RAsool hai Khaleefa 12 hon ga.....tu hamray be poray baray hain.....na kam na ziada...
    or hum unn ki sunnat par nae Sunnat-e-Rasool par chaltay hain..
    RAsool na jo Ali ko batya wo unno na apnay baitay ko or unno na apnay baitay ko or ess tara nassal dar nassal hamain Sunnat-e-RAsool milli
    hamaray haan sirf unnii hadees ko sahee mana jata hai jo enno na rawayat ki ho..kuinkay ya seedi ja ker RAsool say connnect kerti hain.
    or jaisa ka Quran main Ahlaybiat ko Rijjas sa door or enn ka pak honay ka Saboot hai..
    or Rijjas ka mani hotay hain....her kissam ki borae say paak, chahay wo fitri ho,aqli ho ya sharre..Quran na hee kaha hai .....ka aeh RAsool keh dijaey apni ummat say main tum say apni risalat ka koe mawiza nae mangata sewaey apnay Qurabet daron say mowaddat ka..(yaad rahay ka Mowaddat ka darja mohabat say barh ker hota hai)
    or jaisa ka dilslay na kaha....ka biwi Ehely main sab say pehlay hoti hai....tu ab main kia karon ka app ki info hee itni naqis hai tu.....biwi sab say end pa ati hai.....kuinka osay talaq be ho sakti hai jiss ki sorat wo ahel say nikal jati hai...so os ka haseeiat wo nae hoti.
    or dosra jab main na app ko batta dia ka kisi be biwi na Ahlaybait main say honay ka dawa nae kia.....Hazrat aysha na kitni rawayat main kaha hai ka wo RAsool ki chaheeti biwi thi....tu unnay ya kehnay maain kia harj tha ka wo Ahlaybait sa hain......kitni sari private batain unno na batta din lakin ya nae bataya.....kuinka wo janti thi ka kon kon shmil hain ess main..
    Quran na khud batla dia tha......aya mobihila ka Waqet.....or sari tareekh gawa hai ka oss waqet BAiton ki jagga, hassan, hussain,aurton ki jagga Bibi fatima, or naffas ki jaaga ali gaey thay....ess say bar ker koe ayat hai Quran ki tu lay aien muqabilay main
    bulkay main na app ko app ki books say reference or Quran say be ayat di Sorah tehreem ki Hazrat aysha or hazrat hifza ka baray main or hazrat ummer ka mutabiq wo enni dono ka liay hain ..
    mera maqsad kisi ki shaan ko gittana ya kam kerna nae...main tu haqeeqt batta rahi hon ka kis baise par hum Alehybiat ko mantay hain or dosron ko nae mantay....wo be aik lambi list hai ka kuin nae mantay..wo be chahiay tu bata don gi.
    hamari books utha ker daikh lain kisi be imaam na ya hazrat ali na kisi sahabe say kabi koe masla pocha ho...
    HAzoor(saww) ki hadees app ki books main be hai.....or pakistaan ka nissab ki books main aam hain ya sab
    ka main illam ka shaher hon or Ali ess ka darwaza.....So illam chahiya tu darwazay say ho ker ana paray ga...
    Hazrat ali ki shujjat main koe sani ho tu bataey........oss ka liay jange khaiber o jangaey khandaq hee kafi hain
    jab RAsool ka bar bar kehnay par be koe maidaan main nae ayaaaa.
    khaiber ka muqaam par RAsool na kaha tha kal main allam oss ko don ga jo Alla or RAsool say mohabat kerta ho ga or Allah or oss ka rasool be oss say mohabat kernay hon gay..
    khandaq ka moqa par apna imama or apni dastaar band ker kaha ka ajj Kullay Imman kullay KUfaar ka moqbilay par ja raha hai........ya sab aam nissab ki books main hain
    or ya be hai ka khaiber ka wo darwaza jissay hazrat ali na aik hath bulkay aik ungli say ukhar painka tha wo baad main 40 admi be mil ker na utha sakkay....
    ager app ko pori tareekh islami main Enn ka jaisa koee Bahadur or Illam rakhnay wala nazer ata hai tu lain samnay main osay imaam man loongi.
    behas ka aik ahem pehlo ya hota hai ka app muqabil ko oss ki books say sabit karo...
    app ki books Mustakrik hakim jild 3
    yonabi-ul mowaddata. alriyaz-ul nazra jild 2 main hai
    RAsool ka farman hai
    Aeh ali tum duniya main be sardar ho or akhirat main be ....jis na tum say mohabet ki oss na muj say ki or jis na tum say bughz rakha oss na muj say bughz rakha......tumara dost Allah ka dost ahi or tumara dushman Allah ka dushman ahi.
    kharabi oss main hai jo tum say dushmani rakhay...
    or hakim na kaha hai ka Alla sharte-shaikain hai.
    ess ka illwa..farman RAsool
    ali ko mohabat imaan or ali say bughz nifaaq hai(sahi musllim.jild 1)
    ali muj say hai or main ali say hon(sahi bukhari)
    ali meray baad her momin ka sar parist hain(musand ahmad, mustadrik hakim)
    ali musalmano ka sardar or mutaqiion ka paishawa or un logon ka salaar hain jo roz-e-qiyamat surkharo hon ga.(kinzul ammal)
    ali main janta hon ka logon ka seeno main tumari taraf say jo bughz hai wo meray baad khul ker samnay aa jaey ga...lihaza ager tum say bait karay tu qabool ker laina werna saber kerna..yahan tak ka tum mazloom meray pas aa jao(mohib tabir,al-riaz-ul nazra baab fazail ali iben abi talib)
    sahi bukhari(bab fazail ali or sahi muslim jild 7).ghazwa TAbook ka moqa par App(saww) na hazrat ali ko sath na lay jana par farmaya
    kia tum ess baat pa khush nae ho ka tumay muj say wohi nisbat hai jo haroon ko mosa say thi....bas faraq ya hai ka meray baad koe nabi nae ho ga......ess hadees ki bais par shia(jo ka fiqqa jafria kehlatay hain ko kaha jata hai ka wo ali ko nabi say ziada darja daitay hain...Jab app Nabi ki shaan hee nae samaj sakkay..tu ali ki shaan kia samjain gay app ko tu ali Nabi say afzal hee dikhaey da ga na.)..or yahan main batati challon ka jaisay ahlaysunnat main 4 firqa hain, hanfi,malki,shifi......aisay heee kuch shia jinnay hum tu shai nae mantay beharhal wo 6 imam tak yaqeen rakhtay hain..oss ka baad unno na apna hee system shoro ker rakha hai..unnay agha khani shia or bohray shia kehtay hain ya tadaad main bohat hee kam hai.ya india or london main paey jatay hain pakistan main en ki tadad na honay ka baraber hai...en ka saray aqaid fiqqa jafria say different hain...coz hum Sunnat RAsool ko follow kertay hain or hamray poray 12 iamma ya 12 khalifa hain.)ess kay illawa mulak shaam main kuch aisay firqa hain jo Hazrat ali ko Khuda mantay hain (naozbillah) or hamray Imamo na khud unn par lannat baijnay ko kaha hai) hamara unn say koe taulq wasta nae....aisay hee jaisay aik musilmaan ka kisi qadyani say koe link nae hota..kehtay to wo be khud ko musilman hain lakin hum tu nae mantay na unnay aisay hee wo shia kehlaey jatay hain lakin hum or hamray masomeen na aiso par lannat baij hai...
    Ab sawal ya uthta hai ka hum sihaba ko kuin nae mantay....hum mantay hain lakin Phir khuda ka ya qool or nabi ki hadees be daikhni parti hain.....jo khud ahlay sunnat ki books main hain or ahelya sunnat ki tareekh be ess ki gawwa hai
    ka KAfi say ziada sihaba Nafarman thay....or abi aik member na islamic section main aik thread lagaey ahi jiss main unni ka zikar hai or kitabain barri howe hain
    mujay bataey ager khulfa ki sunnat par amal kerna hai tu phir ya be hadees yaad ho gi ka khulfa 12 hain or Quraish say hon gay sab bulkay Mustadrik hakim ki book main ahi ka wo sab ka sab BAno hashim say hon gay.
    ab app loog 4 ka baad chup hain or kuch tu mawiya or yazeed(lanti)ko be khalifa mantay hain ab ahlay sunnat main eno dono par sakht ikhtilaf hai..or Tareekh utha ker daikh lain ka hazrat abu baker na ahadees par pabandi laga rakhi thi..ager hadesss or sunnat aisee hee Qabil-e-ikhtaram thien tu unn ko jalaya kuin gia?
    hazrat ummer na be hadees par pabandi laga rakhi thi.....kae musalmano ka qatel amm howa zakaat ka naam par...jab ka khud RAsool ki zindagi main Rasool na unnay zakaat na dainay par Qatal nae kia tha....
    ya in sab ka hawalay hain sahee bukhari main be or tareekh ki dosri kitabon main.....sunna iben maja main, kinzul ammal main, TAbqaat-ul Kubra main...or hazrat usman un ka sihabi-e-Rasool ka sath kia salook tha sab ahi app ki books main...mujay wohi say tu pata challa hai
    App kehtay ho ka hazrat abu baker ko or ummer ko khalifa banna ker gaey thay RAsool,,,,,tu oss time jab app ki wafaat ka time tha os time hazrat umer na ya kuin nae kaha ka ap ka baad abubaker ya ap ki sunat hai na....kuin nae likhnay di wasiat nabi ko?
    or phir jiss aahadees say munkir thay jab hazrat fatima na haq manga tu saboot ka tor par Quran say dalail paish kiay jisay rad ker dia gia. or oss ka muqbilay main banne naey hadees la aey.....pehlay hadees par pabandi or waqet anay par oss ka istamaal..samj main nae ata...
    meray pass her aik sawal ka jawab hai.......wo cheezian jo deen main thien or jinnay katam ker kay biddat ka naam dia gia.....halanka Quran ka baray main sabi jantay hain ka jo cheez oss main haram ahi wo taqiyamat haram hai or jo hallal hai taqiyamat haram hai....
    ajj shia ko kafir kaha jata hai.......unn bataon ki bais par jo khud en ki kitabon main hain jo khud en kka khulfa kertay aey hain
    hazrat ali ki shujaat or allim daik lain or dosray sihaba ka daikh lain...ya ap ki books say hee hai ka (bukhari kitab-ul moharebeen, baab la yarjom-ul majnoon) main khud hazrat umer na kaha hai ka ager ali na hotay tu main halaak ho gia hota..kafi daffa jab wo kisi baat main faisla na ker pata ya koe masla darpaish hota tu ali say rajo kia jata tha..es ka ilawa Abubaker ka khutab daikh lain tareekh main jo unno na khilaft ka baad dia.) or meray pass Quran say be saboot hain ka khilafat ka assel haqdar kon hota hia..sora yonas ki ayat 35 hain(kia wo shakhs jo haq ka rasta dikhaey ziada mustahiq hai ka oss ki parwee ki jaey ya wo jo oss waqet tak rasta nae dikha sakta jab tak khud osay rasta na dikhaya jaey..tumay kia ho gia hai , tum kaisay faislay kertay ho.)
    sorah baqra ki ayat..247 ..wo kehnay lagay essay hum par hukmarani ka haq kaisay ho sakta hai ...halanka oss ki nisbat hum ziada hukmarani ka mustahiq hain...or oss ko tu kuch be maali woss'at nae di gaey....Phighamber na jawab main kaha, awwal tu Allah talah na oss ko tumaray muqabilay main muntakhib kia hai or dosray ya allim or jisamat dono main Allah na ess ko ziadti di hai....or Allah jissay chahay apna mullak ata kerta ahi or Allah hee wasat dainay walla jannay wala hai) ess say sabit hota hai khilafat ho ya Nabowat wo khuda ki taraf sa hoti hai....or main prove ker chuki hon Quran say hee or hukam khuda say....or ya sab app ki books say hain.
    khud bukhari or sahee muslim main RAsook ki ahades hai ka...qiyamat ka din meray ishaab ko left side say laya jaey ga tu main pochon ga ennay kider la ker ja rahay ho tu kaha jaey ga jahanum ki taraf...main kahon ga aeh meray parwardigar ya tu meray ishaab hain,, kaha jaey ga app ko nae maloom enno na app ka baad deen main biddat paida ki ..main kahon ga door ho wo jis na meray badd deen main tabdeli ki or main daikhta hon ka en main bohat say hee kam nijaat pana walay hain(biddat wali rawayat main na likhi hai na opern wo trawaee wali yaad ho gi) or aise bashumar rawayat hain
    seedi see baat hai Fiqa jafiria hee Aseel Ahlay sunnat hain....kuinka unno na her oss cheez ko apanaya jo rasool na di....or her oss cheez ko nae lia jis ka hukam nae dia..
    hamaray haan koe be kisi cheez main izafa nae howa hai....Quran utha ker daikh lain .....jo merzi poch lain app ki kitaab say sabit karon gi inshallah
    or ajj shia ko yahood or insar kehnay walay bool rahay hain ka Ess waqet sirf shia(fiqqa jafria ) hee wahid qoom hai jo en yahod or insara ka samnay dat ker kharri hai....or en ko na apna dost rakha hai na rakhain ga..
    Iran ko daikh lain or labnaan ko daikh lain kaisay muqbila ker rahay hain sar utha ker...or dosron ka kia haal hai wo be nazer aa raha hai.


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    Ajj ager yahoo or insara RAsool(saww) ka liay toheen amaaiz jumlay or khakay kehtay hian tu unn ko ya mawad kis na mohiyya kia?
    ajj koe Rasool(saww) ko naozbillah RAngeela rasool kehta hai tu kon es ka zummadar hai...hmari books main tu koe aise hadees nae millay gi jiss say RAsool ki hurmat ya izzat par koe fareq aey..
    aik WAqia hai parish ki aik university main Akhlaaq-e-Nabi(saww) par guftago ho rahi thi...ka wo kitnay ameen or sadiq thay..basaa't say pehlay be kafir unnay ameen kaha kertay thay.....jin ka akhlaa say insaan qadron ki hafazat ki or deen islaam ko phailaya..tu oss par aik aesaey jo arbi tha. na kaha ka tum kis mohammad ki baat ker rahay ho....tumari apni saheee books es ka khilaaf kehti hain..essmat-e-nabi ka baray main tum khud musalmaan mawafiq nae ho or na tumaray mohammad mowafiqat kertay hain...unno na kae baar kaha hai ka main be basher hon khata or galtiyaan muj say be hoti rahi hain or tum musalmano na khud unn ki galityaan apni kitabon main likhi howe hain tu unnay kaisay sadiq kehtay ho....oss na kaha tareekh utha ker daikh lay mohammad ka zamanay mai be or bad be Talwar ka zor par muslamaan apnay naeey mazhib ko manwatay rahay hain....ess par oss shakh jo ka shia tha oss na kaha ka ya sab appna ghair mutabir kitabon say para ho ga.
    lakin oss na kaha ka main na khud ya app ki kitaab bukari or muslim main para hai..ess par oss na kaha ka main sunni nae shia hon or hamari kitabon main aisa kuch nae hai oss par oss aesaey shakhs na kaha ka tum lgon ki raey kaisay ahem ho sakti hai tumay tu khud musalmaan kafir kehtay hain....musalmano main sunni ki tadaad ziada hai so wohi theek ho ga jo unn ki books main ay ....phir oss na kaha ka tum ikhlaq hameeda ki baat kertay ho tu mujay batao... ka mohammad na 54 saal ki ummer main aik 6 saaal ki bachi aysha sa kaisay shadi ker li jo nabi ka ghar je ker be ghuriyon say khailti thi...essi liay tum os ki sunnat par amam ker kay apni bachiyon ki shadi bari ummer ka logon say kertay ho?....ess par saray haal main sab qehqahay laga ker hansanay lagay...or wo kehta hai ka loog meray jawab ka intazaar kernay laga...unno na apni see koshish ki ka baat ko samaj sakon lakin wo shia ko mantay hee nae thay or unno na aise aise rawayaat ka ziker kia bukhari or muslim say ka mujay batatey howay sharram ati hai.....ka un ka parwardigar Anhazoor ki khawahish naffas ka baray main suraa't say kaam laita hai ...phir oss na kaha ka bukhari tu hamarin ya dikhtay hain ka Mohammad aik hour main 11 auroton say jimmah kertay thay jab ka unnay 30 ki taqet di gaey thi.....kia tumary nabi itnay shoqeen thay aurton ka...
    tu lannat hai na aisay par jo Hadees likhtay waqet NAbi ki hurmat ka khiyaal be nae rakhta....
    oss par oss shia na os ko kafi samjnay ki koshish ki ka hamra Nabi khawahish nafsani ki wajja say 13 shadiyaan nae ki bulkay aksar khandano ka beach sullah rahay....lakin unno na un sab daleel ko rak ker dia ka un ka mutabiq hum musalmaan hee nae hain...
    or jo musalmaan hai mashallah wo kia Hayat paish ker rahay hain NABi(SAWW)
    en sab bataon ka baad be koe baat koe cheez reh gaey ho tu main na dillsay sa jaisa kaha hai ka aoo baat kertay hain......jahan marzi.....or jis mozah par marzi kar lo..... main app ko sabit ker don gi ka Shia hee Assel Ahlay sunnat hotay hain.
    Last edited by N33NA; 08-17-2009 at 09:36 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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