Talk Show Jawab Deyh 5th April 2009

[NoToRi0uS]

Guest: Syed Manawar Hasan Ameer Jamat-e-Islami

[johnybaba]

I never said Iran had the ideal government. To the contarary, they have the wrong form of government. I am not an Iranian supporter, just a person who likes to curse Munawar Hassan and his hypocrite type. I also curse on the rulers if Iran and Saudi Arabia similarly. Munawar Hassan supports Saudi Arabia, and in effect supports the US. He gets money from Saudi linked charities (maybe directly but i don't have proof), so he is hypocrite.

Mawia was a hypocrite too, just like Munawar Hassan. He was and will remain so. If you take your head out your as* and read some other books besides Jihadi manuals, you will be able to find a wealth of knowledge but alas, your Saudi masters wouldn't allow it. They want you to be their bit**hes.

[cheekooo]

Originally Posted by johnybaba

i'm just a person who likes to curse Munawar Hassan and his hypocrite type. I also curse on the rulers if Iran and Saudi Arabia similarly.

Mawia was a hypocrite too, just like Munawar Hassan. He was and will remain so. If you take your head out your as* and read some other books besides Jihadi manuals, you will be able to find a wealth of knowledge but alas, your Saudi masters wouldn't allow it. They want you to be their bit**hes.

well i KNOW you like to CURSE :-)

thats how you will get more sawab n Jannah...through Tabarra :-) lolzz

hey guyz...do you know..this is the only religion in world,which supports cursing people,think it as a method of worship,getting nearer to Lord...n going in heaven..
....
More Cursing...More Lanat....More Tabbarra...a bigger n higher place in jannah

Keep posting.....today we have a JOKE session brothers :-)

btw i would like to start a thread over Hazrat Ameer Muawiya...If you wana debate me over this issue...
I WOULD LOVE TO....

but since this is political forum...so i think the rest of members will not like it.....

try to talk in ISLAM section ----> Great Sahabi Hazrat Muawiya (RA) : Book & Speech

[yacir]

Originally Posted by cheekooo

well i KNOW you like to CURSE :-)

thats how you will get more sawab n Jannah...through Tabarra :-) lolzz

hey guyz...do you know..this is the only religion in world,which supports cursing people,think it as a method of worship,getting nearer to Lord...n going in heaven..
....
More Cursing...More Lanat....More Tabbarra...a bigger n higher place in jannah

Keep posting.....today we have a JOKE session brothers :-)

btw i would like to start a thread over Hazrat Ameer Muawiya...If you wana debate me over this issue...
I WOULD LOVE TO....

but since this is political forum...so i think the rest of members will not like it.....

wtry to talk in ISLAM section

Cheeko, you should not debate with a person who doesn't have any etiquettes of discussion (i.e. he starts calling bad names etc) specially when it comes to discuss about Sahabah, Tabin & Tabe'Tabin

[johnybaba]

Originally Posted by yacir

Cheeko, you should not debate with a person who doesn't have any etiquettes of discussion (i.e. he starts calling bad names etc) specially when it comes to discuss about Sahabah, Tabin & Tabe'Tabin

Tabin Tabe'Tabin Tab Taba Tabu....Sahabah this, Sahabah that.. When supporting Taliban, you don't remember Sahabah. When supporting Saudi/Iran, you don't remember Sahabah.
Use Urdu, your language (or punjabi/Siraki, Sindhi and etc). Another problem with your sort. Use Arabic and make people think that they are inferior to you beucase they don't know Arabic and when you can quote a couple of phrases, you can influence them. If you want to quote the Quran, do it in Urdu or English, languages people of the sub continent understand (and how Islam was spread, translating the Quran). Your Arab masters have given you money, which comes directly from the USA (i.e., oil money) to brainwash the people of Pakistan. You and Munawar Hassan are the ultimate agents of Amerika. Hypocrite. How can you defend Saudi Arab? You don't have an answer? right?

Your type will burn in hell along with the muftis and muanfiqs and Royal Family of Saudi (and so will the Shah's and so called Imams of Iran who subject torture on their population). Khadamein Heramian Tatoo-e- Amerikian Shah Abdullah bin gand*o Aziz (Munafiq, Munkir, Harami) and your master.

[aopen]

Bloody traitor wants to make Pakistan into Afghanistan !!!! May he go to hell for sending people in the name of jehad to die !!!! using Islam for his political gain !!!! i happy he was exposed in this show !!!!

[yacir]

Originally Posted by johnybaba

Use Urdu, your language (or punjabi/Siraki, Sindhi and etc). Another problem with your sort. Use Arabic and make people think that they are inferior to you beucase they don't know Arabic and when you can quote a couple of phrases, you can influence them.

That shows your mentality!

In return, I can also use the same words (that you use in your comments) for you....may be even worst. But i will not and that's the difference between u & me

yacir added 3 Minutes and 46 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by johnybaba

Your type will burn in hell along with the muftis and muanfiqs and Royal Family of Saudi (and so will the Shah's and so called Imams of Iran who subject torture on their population). Khadamein Heramian Tatoo-e- Amerikian Shah Abdullah bin gand*o Aziz (Munafiq, Munkir, Harami) and your master.

aaah...and you have the authority to decide who will be burnt...lol

[Patriotic_Pakistani]

Originally Posted by johnybaba

Munafiq, mardood, hinda ki aulad, Munawar Hussein. Khuda is ko jahanam mein behjay..

U sounds like Qadiani or Indian???? Am i rite???

[cheekooo]

Originally Posted by Patriotic_Pakistani

U sounds like Qadiani or Indian???? Am i rite???

nope pakistani bhai....

ye unka bhi baap he ..
kam se kam wo hamari religious personalities ko curse kerna bais-e-sawab to nahi samjhte na......

read his next comments...fk/sham/jhonny has been exposed :-)

[johnybaba]

@yacir

There is a big difference between you and I. You are condoning hate and terrorism by being supporter of Munawar Hussan, the ultimate hypocrite and agent of Amerika (by being funded by Saudi Arab and their oil money, which in turn comes from USA, UK, France and all over the West).

Munawar Hussan works for his Saudi masters. He will not acknowledge it, but that's what he does. My mentality is in question here? By asking you to use languages that are spoken in Pakistan, i have some mentality problem? What's wrong with teaching Quran to people inh Urdu and English instead of drilling it into their heads? You and people of your ilk have either been brain washed or you don't have the capacity to analyze. How can you support people like Munawar Hussan who are agents of Saudi in Pakistan? How can you not make this link:

USA Saudi Arab Munawar Hassan and his type support jihadis/Taliban are destroying Pakistan.

USA is all too happy with this formula as it's self destructing.

[Patriotic_Pakistani]

Originally Posted by johnybaba

If i may reacall, Hinda was Abusufyan's wife...and if my Islamiath class teacher told me correctly, she was the one who ripped open Hazrat Hamza's body and chewed his liver. Although, it's hard to believe that happened, but if it does, then it was barbaric.

Come on man She accepted Islam and now she is as respectful for us as other sahabas. You cannot be more intelligent than Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), bcoz Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) accepted his Islam. So you dont need to become more intelligent.

Patriotic_Pakistani added 3 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by johnybaba

No problem Cheekoo.

Iran is the only country that's defying the US and kicking Israel's ass. Your mamaji Saudi Arabia licks the US as* and keeps them as protectors.

You guys are the ultimate hypocrites. Munawar Hussein get funded by Saudi and in effect by US.

Why dont you give example of Taliban as well??? who are fighting with US not only giving useless statements against US as Iran is doing. Why dont Iran help taliban against US if Iran is so anti america???

[johnybaba]

Originally Posted by cheekooo

nope pakistani bhai....

ye unka bhi baap he ..
kam se kam wo hamari religious personalities ko curse kerna bais-e-sawab to nahi samjhte na......

read his next comments...fk/sham/jhonny has been exposed :-)

Ok, i might have gone over-board by cursing Mawia and Hinda.

Anyways, that's history. I am talking about your support of Munawar Hassan. How can you support him and his type? It's amazing that you guys have been able to log on to the Internet (something that was created by the Great Satan, enemy of Islam), are on this forum, and can't figure this nice little arrangement out that the Jihadi/Taliban outfits were created by USA and Saudi (in equal parts, the jihad against USSR was supported half and half by both). Now USA is using Saudi, which in effect is using poor, uneducated Pakistanis to destroy it. And you are all too happy to support these people?

You guys have no love of Islam or Pakistan. You are like little tools being used by these people.

[Patriotic_Pakistani]

Originally Posted by cheekooo

Hey Fk...

there something special...

Iranian Modern Brave enlightened FAKE syeds stoning a woman to death....

IDEAL country iran...ideal nation ....... LMAO

YouTube - Stoning in Iran (Iranvnc.com)

@ fk /sham / johny /blabla :-)

i dun mean to criticize shiite

but since you have used derogatory remarks for Hazrat Ameer Muawiya (RA) , the great Sahabi...for her MUSLIM mother (hazrat Hinda ra) i was compelled to use such words...

....
with rest of the shia brethern...i apologize in advance

I think you are trying to show that its wrong in Iran but i believe its right. It is written in Quran to stone a women to death if found guilty and if she is married, for more detail read quran. Please dont try to make fun of Allah's punishment. We Pakistanis are far away from these implementations and we should think about it.

Patriotic_Pakistani added 0 Minutes and 44 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by johnybaba

@Cheekoo
All of a sudden you are apologists for Hinda. She accepted Islam and then everything was ok. You support the Taliban who have inserted tribalism into Islam rather than entering Islam into their cultures. You say 'Lailah Ill Lallah Muhammadur Rasuulah' and you don't want women to take part in practical public life, i.e., running a business (i am saying that since you are defending Munawar Hassan, mardood, harami, Amerika and Saudi ka tatoo). Do you know the reason you are able to say Laillah ill Lallah is because of a woman's treasure and money? It was none other than Hazrat Khadija who provided resources and money to the prophet to spread Islam and helped him in the early days. I cannot believe that my God who had planned that Islam will be spread by resources from a woman's business will allow Taliban to implemen Sharia in Swat saying that women can't run businesses. That's Saudi funded horse sh*t that has been fed to a majority of Pakistanis..

You dont sound like a MUSLIM..... ARE U MUSLIM????????????????

[johnybaba]

@patriotic pakistani
"Why dont you give example of Taliban as well??? who are fighting with US not only giving useless statements against US as Iran is doing. Why dont Iran help taliban against US if Iran is so anti america???"

Because Taliban is a creation of the ISI, who did it for CIA. Now the CIA is all too happy to see Pakistani Army and ISI put this jeeni back into the bottle. Taliban is not fighting USA, they are being used. USA is all too happy that Taliban is attacking Pakistani Army, ISI, MI. Can you imagine, they are doing the work for the USA. Why does the USA even need to do anything against Pakistan. Taliban/Jihadis are doing it for them? Systematically, they are destroying the Pakistani state and people like Munawar Hassan are all too happy to support them (why, because he is paid by the Saudis)

[commoner]

Iftekhar was soft today, he should have asked Munawer Hussain:

1. weather Suicide bombing is permissible in Islam?

2. weather "Non state actors" to use his words can wage Jihad or Jihad can only be declared by the state?

3. If Taliban were so perfect why did not Jamat's Baghal bacha Gulbudin Hekmatyar joined them and why he took refuge in Iran.

4. What are his opinion about Democracy being unislamic as per Sufi of TSNM who has recently said that he(Sufi) would never join a prayer which is led by Qazi, Fazlu and Sami.

5. Why has Jamat always supported military dictators(Yahya, Zia, Mush) and oppossed all popularly elected govt

6. What is his opinion about the trail in Bengladesh against the Jamati goons who killed Muslim Bengali in 1971.

[G.A.Chaudhry]

The credit taken by Nawaz Sharif(on judiciary case) can not be digested by Munawar Hussain.

Anyway,he has good communication skills than Qazi.
It was quite wonderful that I don't consider India as a country.