Debate Off The Record 17th May 2009

[NoToRi0uS]

Host Kashif Abbasi
Guests:Gen Rtd Asad Durani, Afzal Ali Shangri. Lt.Gen Rtd Abdul Qayum

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[lexkhan]

Very Good show...

[irrfat666]

Thanx alot admin...I really appreciate that u r now uploading programs on a different player which is much much quicker (the second from top)...keep it up ¬¬¬

[aftab818]

Americans and allies are successfull in engaging Pak Army into dirty filthy game.God forbid ,it will lead to real destruction of Pakistan.I do not mean to stop operation,but after clearance we should cut off from America,its the only way to save Pakistan.

[hawkeyeblue]

I don’t know why no one points out that ANP did achieve what they have promised. To separate Civilian support or sympathy from Taliban towards Govt. Now question is that how long they can sustain the support and sympathy. I can bet with anybody that soon when Govt. will not be able to manage IDPs the response will be even worse than ever before and people will be even more resent Govt.

I just want to highlight upon General Asad’s point that this will linger on for 2 to 3 decades.

I ask all war "lovers and Monger" friends are you ready to tell the people of SWAT that they have lost SWAT for every long time and now they have to forget about going home for quite some time (which is practically 2 to 3 generation)?

I do not know when we will develop far slightness and could foresee the obvious. We must accept our current political structure is failed and collapsed due to their own mis- prioritization and extreme lack of Credibility, Competence and Capacity/Capability which are very basic elements of success.

My Solution is multidimensional; we must have a credible and competent “National Govt.” develop home grown unanimous policy, stop Military action and replace it with heavy police and paramilitary and Elite force presence in whole of Malakand, use of Special Services unit (SSG) assist in special gorilla action against Militancy and Local community and NGOs assist in Emergency Relief and Social rehabilitation. Revive and revitalize Jirga system to be involved in dialogue (back door diplomacy) to support and assist Judicial System which local majority demanded and bring militancy to the courts and prosecute and sentence rigorously.

N.B. I am son of the soil and have reasonable local historic, social and geographical knowledge.

[salmanzafar214]

Originally Posted by hawkeyeblue

I don’t know why no one points out that ANP did achieve what they have promised. To separate Civilian support or sympathy from Taliban towards Govt. Now question is that how long they can sustain the support and sympathy. I can bet with anybody that soon when Govt. will not be able to manage IDPs the response will be even worse than ever before and people will be even more resent Govt.

I just want to highlight upon General Asad’s point that this will linger on for 2 to 3 decades.

I ask all war "lovers and Monger" friends are you ready to tell the people of SWAT that they have lost SWAT for every long time and now they have to forget about going home for quite some time (which is practically 2 to 3 generation)?

I do not know when we will develop far slightness and could foresee the obvious. We must accept our current political structure is failed and collapsed due to their own mis- prioritization and extreme lack of Credibility, Competence and Capacity/Capability which are very basic elements of success.

My Solution is multidimensional; we must have a credible and competent “National Govt.” develop home grown unanimous policy, stop Military action and replace it with heavy police and paramilitary and Elite force presence in whole of Malakand, use of Special Services unit (SSG) assist in special gorilla action against Militancy and Local community and NGOs assist in Emergency Relief and Social rehabilitation. Revive and revitalize Jirga system to be involved in dialogue (back door diplomacy) to support and assist Judicial System which local majority demanded and bring militancy to the courts and prosecute and sentence rigorously.

N.B. I am son of the soil and have reasonable local historic, social and geographical knowledge.

Lalay aisay hi Jazbati na howa kar . Waisay yah Jang kafi dair Chalni hay .. Zara mulahiza farmaye wat ur President said

[hawkeyeblue]

Originally Posted by salmanzafar214

Lalay aisay hi Jazbati na howa kar . Waisay yah Jang kafi dair Chalni hay .. Zara mulahiza farmaye wat ur President said
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By the way the; you said "Lalay" this sounded brotherly and I like it Secondly "Yes" it is very emotional issue for me and I am sure for many of us, so I cant promises you that I will not act under the rage.

Good to see that he has this renationalisation but I doubt he is credible or capable of doing any thing. Period

[vanilla]

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[aamirmalik]