Debate Off The Record 24th May 2009

[NoToRi0uS]

Host Kashif Abbasi
Guests:Faisal Raza Abidi, Maulana Gul Naseeb Khan, Basheer Ahmed Bilour & Siraj ul Haq

[hina123]

[luckyafridi]

hina123@

welcome back again, with all controvercies lolz

[smaqsood]

I am not a supporter of millitants who are killing innocent people... BUT

Talibaan,
Gen Hamid Gul, was the Leader who made Talibaan against USSR with the help of USA and asked Muslim from all over the world to come here .. they were given the nationalities .. These Uzbuk, Tajik, Arab are all Pakistani.. Just like Pakistanies who are living abroad with forgin nationalities..

Why to kill them?
If india is involved ? Govt. should show the evidence to the world.

[speedyturtle]

Originally Posted by hina123

What does this news have to do with this video or thread?? you posted it in the news now why post it here?
I would like to clear that i also think like her husband that she is a B*tch so i am not standing up for her but this news isnt relevant in this thread.

SPEEDY
enjoy

[mistehbab]

Assalam-o-Alaikum ALL,

According to a report, Taliban are hitting girls schools, because that is where Pakistan Army makes their "choki" and operate from there.

M. Istehbab

[smaqsood]

Originally Posted by mistehbab

Assalam-o-Alaikum ALL,

According to a report, Taliban are hitting girls schools, because that is where Pakistan Army makes their "choki" and operate from there.

M. Istehbab

Who's reports?
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[mistehbab]

Assalam-o-Alaikum ALL,

Can you believe it?

ANP minister has been caught red handed on TV. This guy said it himself in this video, that his party, NAP (National Awamy Party) is banned. They changed the name to ANP, made a party and came into power.

Can you believe, it? Members of a banned party are allowed to change the name of their party and get elected ?

Wow!! Pakistan tere sadqe jaoon, tere andar kia kia ho raha hai. Banned political parties wale apna naam change karte hain aur hakoomat main A jate hain.

This fact should be quote of the day.

@smaqsood: I posted a youtube video ->

Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki - State Of The Ummah

Check out this video.


M. Istehbab



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Assalam-o-Alaikum ALL,

Any sane or knowledgeable person who watches this episode, will note that PPP and ANP ministers have been exposed.

Again, PPP and ANP ministers avoided answering questions.

PPP minister turned every question to an irrelevant reference of the past.

This PPP minister is also one of those who was talking against the reinstatement of judges. He was taking side with PCO judges.

ANP minister was rendered "la-jawaab". He couldn't answer. His expressions, his hesitation, showed his guilt. It was evident that his party took a serious U turn on negotiations and policies.

First ANP makes a deal with an organization that is "kal-adam". Then it denies it and starts military operation. WOW!!

..and then people support, ANP and PPP.

Have people of Pakistan forgotton that nearly ALL ministers of PPP and some of ANP are criminals?

PPP needed NRO to come into power. That in itself shows the credibility of these people. Nobody in the world is ready to trust present government in Pakistan. Even America has started negotiations, talks with Nawaz Sharif, after watching the predicament of the current coalition government.

Today people of Pakistan are trusting these ministers??!?!!

People of Pakistan: Is that a sane decision to make?

Are you nuts, you are believing criminals? over "deendar" people?!?!

Have you lost your sense of right and wrong?

M. Istehbab



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Assalam-o-Alaikum ALL,

Looks like everyone forgot to either view this program or bring this program to everyone's attention.

Check this out -> Zaid Hamid on Swat Peace Deal/Nizam-e-Adal

Zaid sb. discusses this whole thing in a neat way, removing some of the confusion in it. When I see this program, common sense accepts it as something that's possible, to some level.

Why don't others talk about it? Why hasn't anyone else pointed it out? Why aren't people making others aware of this program? I don't know.

It is interesting to note that even in this program, the government has been criticized on its "na-laeqi".

This means, ANP and PPP's government has failed on ALL levels. It is not governing the nation.

It is just there to gather as much money as it can, while people worry about handling their affairs.


P.S. This forum keeps merging my posts into one large post, even if I post after 1+ hour. That's strange.

M. Istehbab

[smaqsood]

All Blame game on Talibaan...
No sold proof..

[soldier786]

Assalam-o-Alaikum ALL,

Can you believe it?

ANP minister has been caught red handed on TV. This guy said it himself in this video, that his party, NAP (National Awamy Party) is banned. They changed the name to ANP, made a party and came into power.

Can you believe, it? Members of a banned party are allowed to change the name of their party and get elected ?

Wow!! Pakistan tere sadqe jaoon, tere andar kia kia ho raha hai. Banned political parties wale apna naam change karte hain aur hakoomat main A jate hain.

This fact should be quote of the day.


'HUH' people get some knowledge of Pakistan political history and then comments pls Now its not a news everybody knows NAP was banned by Z.A Bhutto and then they changed name to ANP...now whats the issue? its nothing against constitution you can change your banned organizations name and start again same like LASHKAR E TOIBA did they changed it to JAMAT DAWA and Tehreek e Nifaz e Fiqhe Jafriya changed to Tehreek e Islami or something like that
so its nothing new orite?

[hawkeyeblue]

Subhaan Allah Imam Anwar al Awlaki is gretest Islamic scholar and I consider him as one on my most respected Teacher and my hero. May Allah give him best of heath and protect him from all the evil.

[mistehbab]

Assalam-o-Alaikum,

In US, when a person or an organization or a party is de-famed or banned, they challenge that in the court of law.

They get their name re-instated by the court of law.

No one is allowed to change their name and start operating again.

If citizens start changing their names, which has been happening, or if local companies start changing their names, which has also been happening, what could they achieve by doing that?

They could get away with any kind of and ammount of wrong-doing.

M. Istehbab


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Assalam-o-Alaikum ALL,

Originally Posted by soldier786

Assalam-o-Alaikum ALL,

Can you believe it?

ANP minister has been caught red handed on TV. This guy said it himself in this video, that his party, NAP (National Awamy Party) is banned. They changed the name to ANP, made a party and came into power.

Can you believe, it? Members of a banned party are allowed to change the name of their party and get elected ?

Wow!! Pakistan tere sadqe jaoon, tere andar kia kia ho raha hai. Banned political parties wale apna naam change karte hain aur hakoomat main A jate hain.

This fact should be quote of the day.


'HUH' people get some knowledge of Pakistan political history and then comments pls Now its not a news everybody knows NAP was banned by Z.A Bhutto and then they changed name to ANP...now whats the issue? its nothing against constitution you can change your banned organizations name and start again same like LASHKAR E TOIBA did they changed it to JAMAT DAWA and Tehreek e Nifaz e Fiqhe Jafriya changed to Tehreek e Islami or something like that
so its nothing new orite?

This raises an interesting question. Why was NAP banned?

Was it because it had a role of taking sides with Russia in the cold war? Was it because they were laying down the proverbial red carpet for Russia in Afghanistan war?

M. Istehbab

[revolusionistic]

Nawaz says Punjab’s doors open for Swat affectees Updated at: 1202 PST, Monday, May 25, 2009
LAHORE: The leader of Pakistan Muslim League (PML)-N Mian Nawaz Sharif said the doors of Punjab are open for Swat affectees.

Addressing a meeting for settlement of Swat affectees, Nawaz Sharif said preventing any Pakistani to enter another province is unjust.

“ Prohibiting affectees to enter another province is a violation of basic fundamental rights and national interests,” Sharif added.

[mistehbab]

*thumbs up* Nawaz Sharif