Off The Record 08th July 2008

Host:
Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
Muhammad Saleh - MMA,Waziristan
Abdul Mateen Khan - ANP)
Farah Naz Isfahani representing PPP

[hina123]

" Farah Naz Isfahani "

Member National Assembly on Reserved Women Seat for PPP i.e. she is not a representative of Awam in any way ...
and she is the wife of a NeoCon backed Meer Jaffar AKA our Ambassador in US Hussain Haqqani...


So sad to see such non political people representing the PPP that calls itself the most democratic party of Pakistan....

It would be interesting to ask the PPP die hard worker's opinion about these people who are representing them today ..........

where are the True PPP workers and leaders.... ??

[kamranmuhammad]

I respect her point of view but totaaly rubbish to me. She and her Husband are traior and lalchi insaan. Shame on both of them being muslim (Qadiani)and pakistani....Muslim mean Qadianai

[hina123]

Originally Posted by kamranmuhammad

I respect her point of view but totaaly rubbish to me. She and her Husband are traior and lalchi insaan. Shame on both of them being muslim (Qadiani)and pakistani....Muslim mean Qadianai

Qadiani's are not Muslims and according to the Most Democratically Agreed Constitution of 1973 "Qadianis are not Muslims and hence can not claim to be Muslims in Pakistan"

its the same worldwide as a majority of Muslims do not consider Qadianis as Muslims.

[kamranmuhammad]

@Hina 123

Got you point. I agree as this is in constitution. Musharaf is qadiani too.....Ambasador to Switzerland, Norway, USA are qadiani or ahmedi...these are those whome i know...there may be many moree

[salmanzafar214]

yar waisay ek bat mujh ko samajh nahin ati . yah 1973 ka constitution koi hadess hay ?? har shaks is ka aisay zikar karta hay jaisay pata nahin kai chez hay . dont think that i m qadyani.
but yar is main aisy koi bat hay jo islam k kareb ho ?? in 1973 constitution .. mujhay aj tak nahin samjah aye . is ko log paper ki tarah use kartay hay or phenk detay hay yah kaisa constitution hay jis par na koi Politician amal karta hay . na koi general na koi lawyer ..

[shasnahn]

if you cannot rebut the points a person is making, then just stay quiet. Accusing people of being this or that doesnt invalidate their points.

[NoToRi0uS]

This Lady was Looking as she is sitting in a meeting of any WOMEN NGO & Convincing those so called social workers about in justice in society

[donjuand555]

What Ms. Isfahani is saying is true, What people here are doing is called ad hominem. Do not attack the person with all this nonsense of being Qadyani, the point of discussions should be what she is saying.
Talibans have occupied all the tribal area and some parts of swat. They are now trying to establish their rule in Kohat, Hangu, Tank, DI Khan and Peshawar after that. They are killing people, beheading people in public, blowing up girl’s schools and even attacking police stations now. Today they have attacked a police station in Hangu.
What are we waiting for? Why are we so helpless again the Talibans? Isn’t it time that we fight them back before they take over the whole Pakistan?

[hina123]

Originally Posted by shasnahn

if you cannot rebut the points a person is making, then just stay quiet. Accusing people of being this or that doesnt invalidate their points.

One might think that it is a sign of intellectuality whereas there will be millions who will understand that it is nothing more than a quest to fulfill self desires for money, power and influence.

Every one has right to have their own opinions.

[shasnahn]

Originally Posted by hina123

One might think that it is a sign of intellectuality whereas there will be millions who will understand that it is nothing more than a quest to fulfill self desires for money, power and influence.

Every one has right to have their own opinions.

once again: If you cant rebut her points, keep quiet.

[kamranmuhammad]

@ Donund....


Who are Talibans? This is their country same like yours. You may sitting in westearn world or enjoying the elite panel of Pakistan, but those are real guys representing their religion and country.

This Stupid extremist lady (to me she is extremist to Fahashi so called enlighted modern people like you) will run away out of country when ever country need them. Her husband and she is the one who stole a lot of money from Pkaistan. He was released from naib cases like Zardari..... No taliban has ever stolen any money.
These are the people who had damged our country.

You better think a honestly and a pakistani who is living in Pakistan and wliing to die for his religion and country not like those who are having foregn passports and talking about paksitan... Shame shame

kamranmuhammad added 10 Minutes and 12 Seconds later...

@ DonJun........

Here i am qouting some one to increase your information. these are not my words but I agree to this motion

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This PPP lady is out of touch of real Pakistani’s problems, it looks she belongs to burger family obiviosly, what the hell she knows about real problems of general Pakistanis, she is among, people who say that, if you can’t get roti, eat cake!!!! she can’t speak urdu properly like Bay Nazir. By the way, how the hell this “gharber family” became Pakistani or got Pakistani Nationality. She is fit for Uk/usa nationality. and shouldn’t come back to Pakistan. She is talking about reason, would ask her, that what is the reason she was born in Pakistan, please have mercy on pakistanis and never come back to Pakistan.
Aahah…. now ppp is having differences with ANP, after PML-N, That they have different agenda or motives.
There is no doubt about this Haqqani Ambassador s…….., he is meer jaffer type, because there is a reason for that, because he is USA citizen (like Shoukat Aziz) living in USA. After looting Pakistan (like Shoukat Aziz) he has no need to run away from Pakistan, because Haqqani (meer Jaffer) and his family already living outside Pakistan. to this ppp (disco dancer), if ppp lady has any point she should prove, why we didn’t have any problem with tribal peoples before 2000? Like we have today??? Question to PPP lady, if Musharraf was undemoratic, now you are democratic, “Kiya tum democratic neh ookhaar likya”??? Like musharraf you gave the same Bull Sh*t speeches of lies. Everybody agrees now that PPP is also same sh*t like their ancessters and privious unfruitful governments.. This public is not like of 1970 whom you made stupid by showing them glooming and glorified future, and Bhutto papa kept, blank cheque of “ghadafi” in his pocket instead of depositing it in “Behtul Mall”, he wrote this cheque in his own favour and amount of the cheque of his choose he deposited this cheque into his own secret account.
Have a question with this Mrs. Haqqani, that why we never had any problem with our tribes, before year 2000? Untill our dearest friend and ally became our new neighbour.
Haqqani, is unpatriotic Pakistani (ashamed to call him Pakistani,would suggest him to keep only one nationality of USA, with whom he is very patriotic). Leave us Pakistani alone.
He could make best Indian Ambassador to USA out of him. When he talks, he gives the impression of an indian Ambassador who is talking aginst Pakiatan.
Have you ever seen such an ambassodor of any country who talks like this, against their own country, whose salaries, rent, transportation expenses, and even entertainments, etc, etc., is paid by their poor peoples, who hardly get one time meal?? “Allah ki Maar aur Laanat ho tum per (meer jaffer)”. Say Aamin, thanks
Still they are unthankful to the people of their own country!!!! Shame on you.
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[shasnahn]

kamran:

the Taliban have killed citizens, soldiers and politicians, burned down girls schools and attacked NGO's and businesses. If they did not steal any money that does not make them any nice guys.

Fahash ppl may engage in their fahashi, its not good but it also doesnt harm anybody else.

[donjuand555]

@Kamran

Ya right. They can kill people, behead some in Public, Burn down Girls school and government buildings, spread fear by kill hundreds through suicide bombing, routinely kidnap people for Ransom, make Millions of dollars by Taxing the opium cultivators and smugglers BUT still they are not corrupt. They are right because they have a beard and they talk about Islam.
Call me an enlightened moderate, call me a non-muslim, call me a ‘kafir’ but at least I do not kill people who go to a different mosque or worship a different God. Why is it so difficult for them to understand that we will go to a mosque whenever we feel like, we will keep our beard the way we feel like and of course we will send our daughters and our sisters to schools, universities and their offices. They can do whatever they want to in their homes and in their mosques; all we are asking for is to let us live the way we want to and PLEASE STOP KILLING US.
Are we asking too much??

[koi]

stupid farah naz....b*&| S%!*