BrassTacks (Topic: Obama, Zardari, Security & CIA) - Page 2

BrassTacks (Topic: Obama, Zardari, Security & CIA) · 11-12-2008

First Part :

Zaid Hamid:BrassTacks-CIA's Threats To Pakistan Episode2 Part1

Second Part:

Zaid Hamid:BrassTacks-CIA's Threats To Pakistan Episode2 Part2

Third Part:

Zaid Hamid:BrassTacks-CIA's Threats To Pakistan Episode2 Part3

Fourth Part:

Zaid Hamid:BrassTacks-CIA's Threats To Pakistan Episode2 Part4

Fifth Part:

Zaid Hamid:BrassTacks-CIA's Threats To Pakistan Episode2 Part5

You can all observe that whatever Zaid Hamid said is evident today.

Issues that are discussed:

1. Obama's Policy
2. Zardari's (PPP) and deals of USA ( along with last government)
3. Sepratist Movement of Balochistan and NWFP
4. Real Face of ANP Party
5. Pakistan - Israel Relations
6. Denationalization of Pakistani Assets
7. India & CIA's dirty tactics

May Allah guide us. Ameen

**searchthebest** · #16 11-13-2008

Y every time he do his new program with new girl who has nothing to say except node her head ..........?

**del001** · #17 11-13-2008

Well, Why don't we all benefit from bezerk05's detailed and complex analysis.

Please bezerk05 enlighten us a bit more .

**criminal** · #18 11-13-2008

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Originally Posted by del001

Well, Why don't we all benefit from bezerk05's detailed and complex analysis.

Please bezerk05 enlighten us a bit more .

well i have read u previous post! which was pretty lame!! so u definitely need some enlightenment!

berzerk05 y dont u enlighten this guy a bit more!!

**humadoon** · #19 11-13-2008

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Originally Posted by Silverblaze

This ISI sponsored nutcase said that Iran wasn't discussed in U.S elections which is absolutely wrong. Secondly, he said general Augusto Pinochet of Chile reformed the economy.The fact is, he was a US stooge who crushed people's aspirations and destroyed his countries institutions and rule with brute force. US calls that operation of his and many like him in south america, " Operation Condor". [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
thirdly, he said Mush government was stable, what a joke! During mush's rule especialli in northern punjab alone Land grab mafias earned billions of dollars, corruption was at an all time high.
Fourthly, he said that pakistan's biggest threat is india and not mullahs, but the fact is that pakistan's biggest threat is its mismanagement in every institution. We spend over 80 % on arms and give nothing to our people. Pakistan is at par with sub-saharan countries in terms of human development. What good is a nuclear weapon when 56 million people of a country live below the poverty line? We need water, food and shelter to survive let alone education and this guy is glorifying the army and the curse of dictatorship.

General Pasha, chief of the ISI said that we dont have the capability to defend ourselves against US drones. How much do we need to spend to get that capability?
where have all those billions of dollars gone?

Lastly, he said Bomb indian dams. What non-sense. Has he forgotten Kargil, when pakistan occupied those hills and India retaliated with their Air force and were even prepared to cross the international border.
Why is this guy spreading so much misinformation? Has he forgotten how pakistan's military establishment played a huge role in destablising Afghanistan under the pretext of defence? No wonder many afghans detest islamabad for this and consider india more of a friend.
He keeps on saying CIA, SAAZISH, AMREEKA, ISRAEL, INDIA. He presents pakistan as the most important country on the planet.
Ask him who allowed US's protracted involvement during the last seven years? Who sold people to them? Who allowed their modern enlightenment to ruin our social fabric?
Pakistan's only problem is mismanagement and nothing else. Everyone should be held accountable, which is not the case.

Yaar tum kisi say khush bhi ho?
jahaan deykho wahaan complains complains shikayatain hi shikayatain...

Har waqt ortoon (women) ki tarha rona .....

Mujhay raham ata hai aysay logoon pay or koom pay....
Is koom ko shesha dekhanain walay bohat hain...is ki bahtari kay leyay kuch karo...

Koyi bhi insan mukamal naheen hota ......or koyi bhi nezaam galteyoon say pak naheen hota....
Guzara karna sekho cheetay....

Kya tumhara Sari Ambi jaysa hoon hai.....

Asay hi Mood kharab kar daytay ho...

Chill mahool..jhollay laal..no over sentiments ...to rule pakistan u need a heart like ice...cooooooooooooooooooold.

**shereeen** · #20 11-13-2008

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Originally Posted by humadoon

Yaar tum kisi say khush bhi ho?
jahaan deykho wahaan complains complains shikayatain hi shikayatain...

Har waqt ortoon (women) ki tarha rona .....

Mujhay raham ata hai aysay logoon pay or koom pay....
Is koom ko shesha dekhanain walay bohat hain...is ki bahtari kay leyay kuch karo...

Koyi bhi insan mukamal naheen hota ......or koyi bhi nezaam galteyoon say pak naheen hota....
Guzara karna sekho cheetay....

Kya tumhara Sari Ambi jaysa hoon hai.....

Asay hi Mood kharab kar daytay ho...

Chill mahool..jhollay laal..no over sentiments ...to rule pakistan u need a heart like ice...cooooooooooooooooooold.

well said. i hop he will stop complaining now

**humadoon** · #21 11-13-2008

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Originally Posted by shereeen

well said. i hop he will stop complaining now

No he won't ......
Some people are working here for some special agenda....................
or they are over frustrated........................

or chawals (lol)

Jholaly laal ,,,thandh mahool..tun ...................................

**masoodr** · #22 11-13-2008

Brothers An astonishing Prediction for you All, This corrupt Govt. or Atleast Zardari is going.
I cant say at this time it will be good or bad afterwards, But remember my Words. You will see soon

**isheikh** · #23 11-13-2008

I am scared. Kahin yeh Yousuf Kazzab ka follower apni charb zubani se logon pe jadu to nahin chala raha.

**Silverblaze** · #24 11-14-2008

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Originally Posted by humadoon

Yaar tum kisi say khush bhi ho?
jahaan deykho wahaan complains complains shikayatain hi shikayatain...

Har waqt ortoon (women) ki tarha rona .....

Mujhay raham ata hai aysay logoon pay or koom pay....
Is koom ko shesha dekhanain walay bohat hain...is ki bahtari kay leyay kuch karo...

Koyi bhi insan mukamal naheen hota ......or koyi bhi nezaam galteyoon say pak naheen hota....
Guzara karna sekho cheetay....

Kya tumhara Sari Ambi jaysa hoon hai.....

Asay hi Mood kharab kar daytay ho...

Chill mahool..jhollay laal..no over sentiments ...to rule pakistan u need a heart like ice...cooooooooooooooooooold.

I can be virtuperate too if you want me too. But your vining will not change the facts. My only concern is that majority of my people who still have no access to clean water let alone ROTI , KAPRA, MAKAN.
When some building is set ablaze, we cannot do anything except to wait and see it turning to ashes and this guy is talking of leading the Islamic world. what non-sense. Pakistan's only problems are mismanagement and lack of accountability. we dont need bombs and missiles, we need water.
This ignorant attitude is not new, it was witnessed in 71, but we haven't learned. SAB ACHA HAI is the only thing we can think of. We must spend on our own people and polish our talent; instead of making bombs to be used on our own people.
Want to serve your country, donate as much as you can to the poor, sponsor children from less priviliged families and get rid of this rhetoric of SAB ACHA HAI.

Silverblaze added 1 Minutes and 29 Seconds later...

Quote:

Originally Posted by humadoon

no he won't ......
some people are working here for some special agenda....................
or they are over frustrated........................

or chawals (lol)

jholaly laal ,,,thandh mahool..tun ...................................

ager mein chawal aa tey fer chawal nu hi chawal di pichaan hondi a.

**bezerk05** · #25 11-14-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by del001

Well, Why don't we all benefit from bezerk05's detailed and complex analysis.

Please bezerk05 enlighten us a bit more .

tsk tsk tsk...being an enlightened moderate and asking an alleged mullah for enlightenment...lol. ..Its actually called regression of human brain which comes from prolonged flight of ideas (in terms of self-deception or delusion). so suddenly you realize everything you believed in was false and it would seem as if the world around you is crumbling and you in the process escape towards so called primitive mode of thinking (an example of escape phenomenon).
So is my analysis complex enough for you.

**humadoon** · #26 11-14-2008

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Originally Posted by Silverblaze

I can be virtuperate too if you want me too. But your vining will not change the facts. My only concern is that majority of my people who still have no access to clean water let alone ROTI , KAPRA, MAKAN.
When some building is set ablaze, we cannot do anything except to wait and see it turning to ashes and this guy is talking of leading the Islamic world. what non-sense. Pakistan's only problems are mismanagement and lack of accountability. we dont need bombs and missiles, we need water.
This ignorant attitude is not new, it was witnessed in 71, but we haven't learned. SAB ACHA HAI is the only thing we can think of. We must spend on our own people and polish our talent; instead of making bombs to be used on our own people.
Want to serve your country, donate as much as you can to the poor, sponsor children from less priviliged families and get rid of this rhetoric of SAB ACHA HAI.

Silverblaze added 1 Minutes and 29 Seconds later...

ager mein chawal aa tey fer chawal nu hi chawal di pichaan hondi a.

yaar fir shikayattan ....yaar what is the outcome of this frustration

...look different people have different mentality..people come on this forum to find solutions not problems most of us already know whats the problem..than why repeating samething again and again.... ..i know the problems as well but if like u, ill start moaning as well than there will be a addition in moaners ..i am participating Alhamdollilah and i am very satisfied that i am doing my job...
and my vision is that we should try to pick good things where ever we get..and utilize it and ignore bad things (if they are ignorable for time being) but as i can see ur a common person who has noting in his hand...so why talk against big people try to find a way to get there and change the system..

Listen if there is something wrong in ur house u don't start shouting in the street so everyone know mr selverblaze has this problems lets use against him.....Chup kar kay or dam sadh kay Khamoshi say apna kam karo....

U might have heard of the english phrase Barking dogs seldom bite ..

Mainay itni taqrer jhar di par tu samjhay ga phir bhi naheen kyon kay aap hazrat dil say sochtay hain or demagh ko istamal karna pasand naheen kartay....be deplomatic jani.............................

Kya tumhara sarri habshaan ki kach warga moon hai.(lol)..or han welcome to family...........................
Jhollay lal karam shanshah (power)...Tun Mahoool....Chak kay rakh....

**Silverblaze** · #27 11-14-2008

My friend problems are simple and are not at all complicated, but we are not willing to admit them and pretend all is well and good. People are being killed in pakistan and you can only think of Jhoolay lal and tOOOOOOn Mauhal.
we are here to discuss pakistan's troubles and find solutions to these issues, I am not imposing my view points on anyone. If you disagree prove me wrong and talk with facts; instead of CHILL MAUHAL dialogues.
Again we are here to discuss ........... want to have fun, go some bar or pub.

**humadoon** · #28 11-14-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverblaze

My friend problems are simple and are not at all complicated, but we are not willing to admit them and pretend all is well and good. People are being killed in pakistan and you can only think of Jhoolay lal and tOOOOOOn Mauhal.
we are here to discuss pakistan's troubles and find solutions to these issues, I am not imposing my view points on anyone. If you disagree prove me wrong and talk with facts; instead of CHILL MAUHAL dialogues.
Again we are here to discuss ........... want to have fun, go some bar or pub.

..................................................

I know i am a really bad person who is not depressed at all on people being killed in PAKISTAN but what i am trying to say is in ur last 331 posts how many solutions did u present. majority of them were critisism and complains.....who elected PPP people like u and me ...come on guys thats what we wanted when musharraf was there ..we were asking for a democratic government so here we have noe...and we need to bear the lossess as well now

..i don't have anything personal with u ...what i am looking for is some brainchild and some solution ...
over here people spend most of there energies in complaining , complains and complaining.................
Moaning Moaning and moaning..................

I am a man i'll prefer to do something than crying like a useless person and taking out frustration on other people...

I don't know why do u miss this part of my lecture and only remember comments like Jhullay LAL and tun Mahool (There is a reason behind saying them only a little effort is need to understand my intesion) .

**m kashif khan** · #29 11-14-2008

Love to hate such conspiracy theory presenters.
Keep making people confuse, hopeless and spread hypothetical speculation on the name of national interest.
Great help for the nation.

**Silverblaze** · #30 11-14-2008

I have talked of solutions all the time, but when I do the same ignorance fromn you hinders your thinking.
Pakistan's mismanagement is its biggest problem. From the president to a mere peon everyone is corrupt. Mismanagement can only be eliminated when accountability takes place, just like it should have been in 71, 99 and on wards, but Oh, you never even consider these events worth mentioning and every time someone mentions them you call them deranged and incapable of rational thinking which proves that anyone who refuses to learn from history is wiped out.
Laws are every where only implementation is required. Even Islam is a code of law, if not implemented its nothing more than a forgotten doctrine.
By the way I never voted for PPP nor will I ever vote for sindhi feudals and gangsters.
You said you are man and would do something, so I would like to be enlightened with your DOINGS?
Identifying problems and debate paves way for solutions, but of course people with no understanding call them noise and crying.

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