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Asslaam-o-Alikukm WR WB

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Jihaad in the sense ?
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Asslaam-o-Alikukm WR WB

JazakAllah

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اس تحریر کو پڑہنے، پسند کرنے اور حوصلہ بڑہانے کا بے حد شکریہ

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Jihaad in the sense ?
in the sense of Qital

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السلام و علیکم
اس تحریر کو پڑہنے، پسند کرنے اور حوصلہ بڑہانے کا بے حد شکریہ

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in the sense of Qital
Absolutely wrong ... this is one misconception which has hampered the image of muslim as well as Islam very seriously.

Will you please let us know where Qattal is mentioned in this Aaya e Mubarka?

Jahan jahan Allah Kareem ne kuffar se jang ka hukm dia hai wahan wahan bohat wazahat se Qattal ka lafz istemal kia hai.

Jehad sirf bazor e talwar hi nahin hota ... Huzoor Nabiyena wa Syedena Hazrat Mohammad Mustufa (ASWS) ne jehad bin Nafs ko Jehad e Akbar farmaya hai. Jab k Khuufar k khilaf jehad ko Jehad e Asghar farmaya.

Jehad k asl manay tou jidd o jehad k hain , yanay Allah k raastay mein jidd o jehad karna, koshish karna, apnay sarkash Nafs pe qabu pana ta kay hamain taqwa hasil ho jaye.
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Re: Waseelah

JazakAllah
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absolutely wrong ... This is one misconception which has hampered the image of muslim as well as islam very seriously.

Will you please let us know where qattal is mentioned in this aaya e mubarka?

Jahan jahan allah kareem ne kuffar se jang ka hukm dia hai wahan wahan bohat wazahat se qattal ka lafz istemal kia hai.

Jehad sirf bazor e talwar hi nahin hota ... Huzoor nabiyena wa syedena hazrat mohammad mustufa (asws) ne jehad bin nafs ko jehad e akbar farmaya hai. Jab k khuufar k khilaf jehad ko jehad e asghar farmaya.

Jehad k asl manay tou jidd o jehad k hain , yanay allah k raastay mein jidd o jehad karna, koshish karna, apnay sarkash nafs pe qabu pana ta kay hamain taqwa hasil ho jaye.
السلام و علیکم

جنابِ محترم! یوں تو جہاد کی کئی اقسام بن جاتی ہیں کیونکہ لفظ "جہاد" کا لغوی مطلب "کوشش" ہوتا ہے اس طرح ہر "کوشش" جہاد ہی کہلائے گی اور ان میں سے کچھ کا تذکرہ احادیث و سنت مبارکہ ﷺ میں بھی مل جاتا ہے جیسا کہ آپ نے بھی تحریر فرمایا ہے۔

تاہم قرآن میں جہاں بھی لفظ "جہاد" مذکور ہے اسکا صرف اور صرف مطلب کفار سے قتال ہی ہے، اگر آپ یہ دعویٰ رکھتے ہیں کہ ایسا نہیں ہے تو اس حوالے سے کوئی مستند دلیل پیش فرمادیں تاکہ میرا اور دیگر قارئیں کا بھلا ہوجائے ورنہ جو حق ہے اسے تسلیم کرلیں

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Bahut khoob..............
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اس تحریر کو پڑہنے، پسند کرنے اور حوصلہ بڑہانے کا بے حد شکریہ

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Re: Waseelah

Walaikum Assalam !

Allah Kareem ne Quran Majeed mein jahan jahan kuffar se jang ka hukm diya hai wahan ya tou Qattal ka lafz istemal kia hai ya Yu Qatiloona istemal kia gaya hai ....



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jehad k lughwi maanay koshish k hi hain ... or koshish Allah Kareem ki raah mein har tareeqay se ki jati hai ... Jaan se . maal se . nafs pe qabu pa k. Kuffar se jang kar k . laikin jahan jahan kuffar se jang ka hukm hai jisay ham Jihad Bis Saif bhi kehtay hain wahan wahan Qatiluna, Yu Qatiluna waghaira ka istemal bohat wazahat se kia gaya hai... jab k jahan Jahedoona istemal kia hai wahan har koshish ki baat ki gaii hai bashamool qattal k.



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2:218 Those who believed and those who suffered exile and fought (and strove and struggled) in the path of Allah,- they have the hope of the Mercy of Allah. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
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5:35 O ye who believe! Do your duty to Allah, seek the means of approach unto Him, and strive with might and main in his cause: that ye may prosper.
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8:72 Those who believed, and adopted exile, and fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave (them) asylum and aid,- these are (all) friends and protectors, one of another. As to those who believed but came not into exile, ye owe no duty of protection to them until they come into exile; but if they seek your aid in religion, it is your duty to help them, except against a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance. And (remember) Allah seeth all that ye do.
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mazkoora bala mainkisi main bhi qatal ya qataloon use naheen howa har jaga "jahadu" use howa hay

wesay to yahi kafi ha magar aap ki sahoolat kay liay kuch mazeed aayat :
eis say ziyada wazeh jihad say mutalliq koi doosri ayat hi naheen hay quran majeed main

أَمْ حَسِبْتُمْ أَن تَدْخُلُواْ الْجَنَّةَ وَلَمَّا يَعْلَمِ اللّهُ الَّذِينَ جَاهَدُواْ مِنكُمْ وَيَعْلَمَ الصَّابِرِينَ
کیا تم یہ سمجھتے ہو کہ (بےآزمائش) بہشت میں جا داخل ہو گے حالانکہ ابھی اللہ نے تم میں سے جہاد کرنے والوں کو تو اچھی طرح معلوم کیا ہی نہیں اور (یہ بھی مقصود ہے) کہ وہ ثابت قدم رہنے والوں کو معلوم کرے


aik aur aayat:
لاَّ يَسْتَوِي الْقَاعِدُونَ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ غَيْرُ أُوْلِي الضَّرَرِ وَالْمُجَاهِدُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ بِأَمْوَالِهِمْ وَأَنفُسِهِمْ فَضَّلَ اللّهُ الْمُجَاهِدِينَ بِأَمْوَالِهِمْ وَأَنفُسِهِمْ عَلَى الْقَاعِدِينَ دَرَجَةً وَكُـلاًّ وَعَدَ اللّهُ الْحُسْنَى وَفَضَّلَ اللّهُ الْمُجَاهِدِينَ عَلَى الْقَاعِدِينَ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا
جو مسلمان (گھروں میں) بیٹھ رہتے (اور لڑنے سے جی چراتے) ہیں اور کوئی عذر نہیں رکھتے وہ اور جو اللہ کی راہ میں اپنے مال اور جان سے لڑتے ہیں وہ دونوں برابر نہیں ہو سکتے اللہ نے مال اور جان سے جہاد کرنے والوں کو بیٹھ رہنے والوں پر درجے میں فضیلت بخشی ہے اور (گو) نیک وعدہ سب سے ہے لیکن اجر عظیم کے لحاظ سے اللہ نے جہاد کرنے والوں کو بیٹھ رہنے والوں پر کہیں فضیلت بخشی ہے

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ اتَّقُواْ اللّهَ وَابْتَغُواْ إِلَيهِ الْوَسِيلَةَ وَجَاهِدُواْ فِي سَبِيلِهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ

اے ایمان والو! اللہ سے ڈرتے رہو اور اس کا قرب حاصل کرنے کا ذریعہ تلاش کرتے رہو اور اس کے رستے میں جہاد کرو تاکہ رستگاری پاؤ

agar aap ab bhi naheen manain gay to yeh aap kay liay aakhri aayat paysh kar raha hoon

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ مَن يَرْتَدَّ مِنكُمْ عَن دِينِهِ فَسَوْفَ يَأْتِي اللّهُ بِقَوْمٍ يُحِبُّهُمْ وَيُحِبُّونَهُ أَذِلَّةٍ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَعِزَّةٍ عَلَى الْكَافِرِينَ يُجَاهِدُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ وَلاَ يَخَافُونَ لَوْمَةَ لآئِمٍ ذَلِكَ فَضْلُ اللّهِ يُؤْتِيهِ مَن يَشَاء وَاللّهُ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ

اے ایمان والو اگر کوئی تم میں سے اپنے دین سے پھر جائے گا تو اللہ ایسے لوگ پیدا کر دے گا جن کو وہ دوست رکھے اور جسے وہ دوست رکھیں اور جو مومنوں کے حق میں نرمی کریں اور کافروں سے سختی سے پیش آئیں اللہ کی راہ میں جہاد کریں اور کسی ملامت کرنے والی کی ملامت سے نہ ڈریں یہ اللہ کا فضل ہے وہ جسے چاہتا ہے دیتا ہے اور الله بڑی کشائش والا اور جاننے والا ہے


I think eitna hi kafi hay warna quran to bhara howa hay Jihad kay paygham say agar main tmam aayat quote karna shuru karoon to mujhay bohot waqat darkar ho ga.

Wassalam
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