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    Re: Namaz-e-Janza Parhana Juram Ban Gya

    dekhen ghairat ki to bat n he yahan srf

    ap ne sahaba ki bat ki to ap ko phr ye b ilm hoga

    k hazrat abbu bakar RA, Umr Farooq RA or Ali RA.....zara b kuffar me se koi Prophet PBUH samne oonchi awaz se b bat krne ki jurrat krta to wo apni talware nikal lete they


    or jahan tk is bat ka taluq he k gustakh-e-rasool sb ko pak me hi yad aya baqol ap k GHAREEB AWAM hi re gai hey?

    to pehli bat jb frst tym nauzubillah Prophet PBUH k cartoons bnane ki jurrat jis bndde ne ki thi us ka anjam ap ko n pata?

    mjhe is wqt nam yad n araha us shakhs ka jo muslim tha or paki b lakin bahir muqeem tha...us ne khanjar se war kiya tha us cartoonist pr

    kiya ye example nahi hey??????? kiya ye jurrat nahi hey?

    or zahir si bat he apne muslim mulk me hi ap mujrim ko saza na de saken to L**** he pher

    or bilfrz qanoon ko hm bhool b jaye to...........to kiya hoga?

    aik k bd aik, akr badtamizi kre ga or hm kiya mun dekhen gey????????

    or jb sare religions me un k gustakh ki saza QATAL he to mjhe jawab den hmare han ye qanoon kun khtm ho??????????
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    My dear you are talking about speculation, I am talking about a law. You gave me an example of Parents. Let me ask you, Is there Any law about this whole analogy (abusing parents).

    App baat kaar rahey heney, apnay jazbat keey aur appaney muashrey kaaay rawaiy keee. I have seen in my life that when a very powerful person is doing this kind of insult, nobody take stand. You are talking about Gharat and every body has different defination of gharats. I have seen one example of gharat is Rymond Davis case as well.

    App sahi kah rahey heney kaaay yay hal hey muslemano kaaa. I agree with you. I am surprised when we talk that we follow Holly Prophet Sunna. And My understanding is Holly Prophet actions were totally against this kind. Even a person who threw her trash everyday on you. Abu Lahab, insulted you bery badly that you had tears and Londi of Hazrat Hamza RA criticised to Hazrat hamza about this incident, then story of Incident Taif....Please read it, do you think we have more Gharats than those Sahaba who fought for you side by side like respected Ali, Abubakar, Ummar, Usma (RAs).


    Gharat dekhaney kaaay baout saaay moukay ayiy thay, kisey mulivi keey jurat nahi huwai, wooo apni ghrat Holly Prophet kaaay layiay dekhai. Sirf apnay heee masharay maaay Gulami Rasool kaaay daway karana heee gharat nahi haaay. Kia Nabi (PBUH) keeey gharat sirf Pakistan kaaay ghraeeb awam kaaay liaya heee haay. Jabb loog puri duniyya maaay nabi keee insult kaaar rahey thay, kamazkam yaaay mulvi hazra Hazrat Owais Kirni jasey heee example paish kaaar deeney.

    Gharat isss cheez kaaa naaam nahi haaay , jooo tum koo gali daey usss kooo gali dou. Gharat isss cheez kaaa naaam heeey kaaay tumarah khone Khool raha haay maggar tumara baaap isss baat say mana kaar raha haaay aur tum apney baaap kaaa hukum mantey hooo. Yeee bateney 14-15 saaal kaaa bacha waki nahi samaj sakta....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzu-e-Jana`N View Post
    dekhen ghairat ki to bat n he yahan srf

    ap ne sahaba ki bat ki to ap ko phr ye b ilm hoga

    k hazrat abbu bakar RA, Umr Farooq RA or Ali RA.....zara b kuffar me se koi Prophet PBUH samne oonchi awaz se b bat krne ki jurrat krta to wo apni talware nikal lete they

    aik k bd aik, akr badtamizi kre ga or hm kiya mun dekhen gey????????

    or jb sare religions me un k gustakh ki saza QATAL he to mjhe jawab den hmare han ye qanoon kun khtm ho??????????
    First of all let me say, I respect your views so I am not here to change your views. I am just giving my views just for gaining or improving my knowledge.

    Again I will emphasise only one thing:- If this is a Law or just our own Speculation. In Quran there is no set Punishment of this case. As I gave examples of so much insults of Holly Prophet in his time. Let me explain like this:-

    IF A LAW SAYS THAT this particular crime has CAPITAL PUNISHMENT AND NO MERCY. Than Law is equal for everybody. So no body can refuse it even Holly Prophet can not refuse it. As I wrote so many Insulting incidents and Holly Prophet did not give punishment.

    Aik key bad Aik Badtamizi: [very good point]. Again this our reaction like any other incidents. It is not law.

    jb sare religions me un k gustakh ki saza QATAL: first, I do not know about it. Second this is not an excuse. Islam is a universal religion and it came to Islah of all religions.

    In the end, I would like to close this chapter with few points and again I am not argue with you. I gave my opinion and respect others:

    1. Islam is a religion of peace
    2. Holly Prophet is Rahamat ul Alameen: Yay baat merey halak saaay nechi nahi jati kaaay meay Rahmat ul Alameen kaaay Naam paaar longo katil karoon.
    3. As I mentioned I have not seen this is a Law, if it is a law than I have to respect it.

    May God Bless you and others (Ameen) HAPPY RAMZAN MUBARIK

    Sincerely

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    Re: Namaz-e-Janza Parhana Juram Ban Gya

    chaeln sari baten aik taraf rkh den

    srf mjhe ye btaden ap k pas kiya solution he is ka agr law nahi hey to????

    aik bnde ne gustakhi ki to chlo wo bechara insan he use qatal to nahi na kiya jasktaa chor diya

    pher dusjmanon ki hosla afzai hui

    aik or ne akr gustakhi krdi....use chora teesre ne b yahi hrkat krdi

    to ap kiya solution dete hen ya ap k khyal me law hona zulm he to phr kiya kiya jaye??

    gv me smtime Insh'Allah is law pr satisfactory information dun gi
    Quote Originally Posted by live&love View Post
    First of all let me say, I respect your views so I am not here to change your views. I am just giving my views just for gaining or improving my knowledge.

    Again I will emphasise only one thing:- If this is a Law or just our own Speculation. In Quran there is no set Punishment of this case. As I gave examples of so much insults of Holly Prophet in his time. Let me explain like this:-

    IF A LAW SAYS THAT this particular crime has CAPITAL PUNISHMENT AND NO MERCY. Than Law is equal for everybody. So no body can refuse it even Holly Prophet can not refuse it. As I wrote so many Insulting incidents and Holly Prophet did not give punishment.

    Aik key bad Aik Badtamizi: [very good point]. Again this our reaction like any other incidents. It is not law.

    jb sare religions me un k gustakh ki saza QATAL: first, I do not know about it. Second this is not an excuse. Islam is a universal religion and it came to Islah of all religions.

    In the end, I would like to close this chapter with few points and again I am not argue with you. I gave my opinion and respect others:

    1. Islam is a religion of peace
    2. Holly Prophet is Rahamat ul Alameen: Yay baat merey halak saaay nechi nahi jati kaaay meay Rahmat ul Alameen kaaay Naam paaar longo katil karoon.
    3. As I mentioned I have not seen this is a Law, if it is a law than I have to respect it.

    May God Bless you and others (Ameen) HAPPY RAMZAN MUBARIK

    Sincerely

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    Re: Namaz-e-Janza Parhana Juram Ban Gya

    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    aap ka wo haal hain ke 'chaur ki dhaary main tinka' bura apney main likha howa pehchan laita hain. hallanke main ne general baat ki thee aor yea such hain.
    hahah main aap ka dard or rona samajh sakta hoon

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    ye ap kiya keh rae hn??

    ye qanoon pakistan ya kisi b dunyawi mumalik ne nahi bnaya ye Qanoon Islam ne bnaya he

    Allah ne hukm diya hey

    or phr Allah k bnaye huwe qanoon ko KALA QANOON kehna ap ki nazar me koi ghalti koi gunah nahi hey??????

    or sb se barh kr mjhe ye btayen...dunya ka chahe koi mulk b ho, koi religion b ho sb k han ye qanoon hey k agr un k religious ya muqaddam ashya ya logo ki

    koi insult kre ga to us ki saza srf or srf mot hey........!!! hey k nahi?

    to kiya Prophet PBUH , un sab k respectful personalities se nauzubillah km hen???? unn ki to sb se zyada respect hey

    or bilfrz thori der k liye ye man b liya jaye k is qanoon ka hukm Allah ne nahi diya or rf pakistan ne hi bnaya hey to pher bhiii

    Prophet SAW ki insult krne walon k liye bnaya gaya he ye qanoon or koi muslim hi uth kr ye bak de k ye qanoon kala qanoon he ???

    or thori dai k liye QANOON ko b bhul jaye ap us ka amal dekhen wo kiya krna cha raha tha?? aik ase shakhs ko jis ne Prophet pbuh. k

    khilaf gustakhi ki ..use bachana chah raha tha saza se???? kiya ye kisi muslaman ko zaib deta he asa krnaa???

    Jahan tk Salman taseer k Qatal ki bat he to us pr me zyada bat n krskti k ab ki situation me kiya hukm he is k liye??

    lakin Aik islami mulk me sazaye den to naaa...??? ye qatal itni jaldi to n huwa tha k salman ne kaha or qatal hogyaa

    is bat ka intizar kiya gya tha k dekho is k rade amal me Govt kiya krti he ya kiya response hota he?? lakin Govt ka to hal yun lag raha tha k waqai wo is qanoon ko

    kala qarar dede gi or Govt ko threat krne k liye b ye qatal kiya gyaa...........

    Shut up moron. Its ignorant rants like you that have demolished my nation. Just shut the hell up.

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    Bat krni he to tameez se karen wrnaa ap jase bht dekhen hen

    jinhe bat krna na ati ho khasoosan khwateen se wo kiya bat krta he nation ki or us ki bhalai ki?????
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    Shut up moron. Its ignorant rants like you that have demolished my nation. Just shut the hell up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzu-e-Jana`N View Post
    Bat krni he to tameez se karen wrnaa ap jase bht dekhen hen

    jinhe bat krna na ati ho khasoosan khwateen se wo kiya bat krta he nation ki or us ki bhalai ki?????
    Hell with your comments kid, men and women are equal, learn to take the heat when you want to drive an intellectual thought train.
    I read your comments, you are an idiot who knows nothing, just underlines the fact of our society derailing from anything thats good. Kill people? Who the hell are you to preach that? Prophet(saw) never did that. Period. Go and learn something.

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    kiya ghas daloon ab is cmnt ko??????

    sharam tm ko magar ati nahi
    prophet saw did nt do this n that

    bs ye pata he or kuch n pta????

    kuch pata hota to ye jahiliyat na jhartey

    wese b mene jis se bat krni thi krchuki wo shakhs aqalmndtha opposirte views b hon to koi frq n prtaa lakin ba tehzeeb tha

    use koi frq n para who r u to say me this???

    na jan na pehchan.....farigh insan.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
    Hell with your comments kid, men and women are equal, learn to take the heat when you want to drive an intellectual thought train.
    I read your comments, you are an idiot who knows nothing, just underlines the fact of our society derailing from anything thats good. Kill people? Who the hell are you to preach that? Prophet(saw) never did that. Period. Go and learn something.

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    What is an intellectual thought train ???????????????????????/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzu-e-Jana`N View Post
    kiya ghas daloon ab is cmnt ko??????

    sharam tm ko magar ati nahi
    prophet saw did nt do this n that

    bs ye pata he or kuch n pta????

    kuch pata hota to ye jahiliyat na jhartey

    wese b mene jis se bat krni thi krchuki wo shakhs aqalmndtha opposirte views b hon to koi frq n prtaa lakin ba tehzeeb tha

    use koi frq n para who r u to say me this???

    na jan na pehchan.....farigh insan.....
    Listen up chickenheadedcuckoo, lets not fall for credentials here, i can do it but it won't serve you. I don't have to pat a donkey for being an idiot. I don't have to be leniant to a female donkey when i bang up male ones. Morally, your argument is dog ****. I don't even want to talk about it, i dont even know how you people come up with such mediocre things like ""kill the blasphemer"" oh ""God wants it, HE said it"". You Morons have made (nauzbillah) our God a blood and gore living God. Each kill, in His name, Thats just so sad. You think He'd be happy when you blow up every second person who questions??? You're too illiterate for a political discussion, stay away from it and yes it is a DARK AND A VERY DARK LAW THATS IS AGAINST ISLAM ITSELF. It is being preached by morons and accepted by jungle ridding baboons like you my lady. If i start killing every non muslim for their questions or angry rants over the status of my prophet(saw) or Allah, thene there wont be any human left to be converted to Islam. You need to grow up, just do it. I left my manners when you left your humanity while preaching killing of a so called blasphemer. Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer View Post
    What is an intellectual thought train ???????????????????????/
    Well she was kind of trying to philosophize reasons to approve the Black law, lol. She left her humanity, I left my manners. Whats worse.

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    to howa na sabit ke yea qanoon State of Pakistan ne hi banaya hain aor es ki tabdeely hony chahiey.aor es main yea shaamil hona chahiey ke jo kisi per jhoota ilzaam lagain ga to usper b same case baney ga.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arzu-e-Jana`N View Post
    to ap ye khye naa k ap ko is bat pr aitraz hey k

    agr ilzam ghalat sabit hojaye to ilzam lagane wale ko b saza di jani chahye?

    ap k sb se pehle wale cmnts se kuch or hi laga kun k me koi or bat krrai thi ap ne ye bat ki to laga shyd salman taseer ki bat krrae hn

    han ye hona chahye bilkul lakin marne wale koi pagal to nahi they k salman ko qatal ghalat fehmi me krdete??????

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    to howa na sabit ke yea qanoon State of Pakistan ne hi banaya hain aor es ki tabdeely hony chahiey.aor es main yea shaamil hona chahiey ke jo kisi per jhoota ilzaam lagain ga to usper b same case baney ga.
    Intellectual train of thought has been disturbed by the flag bearer of 'humanity' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    haha wazeh kren konsaa qanoon???
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    to howa na sabit ke yea qanoon State of Pakistan ne hi banaya hain aor es ki tabdeely hony chahiey.aor es main yea shaamil hona chahiey ke jo kisi per jhoota ilzaam lagain ga to usper b same case baney ga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer View Post
    Intellectual train of thought has been disturbed by the flag bearer of 'humanity' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    One has to be cruel to teach a lesson to someone whose thoughts deal with life and death. Deal with it.

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    . Hazoor (S.A.W) ki shaan main gustakhy karne waley ki saza Mot. theeck
    Magar jhoota Ilzaaam laaganey waley ko b saza mot hony chahiey.
    our procedure system should be more strong and law should be amend like that innocent must not be punished.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arzu-e-Jana`N View Post
    haha wazeh kren konsaa qanoon???

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    100 % Agreed

    ilzam lagane wale ko saza-e-mot to kher nahi keh sktey lakin sakht saza zaroor honi chahye
    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    . Hazoor (S.A.W) ki shaan main gustakhy karne waley ki saza Mot. theeck
    Magar jhoota Ilzaaam laaganey waley ko b saza mot hony chahiey.
    our procedure system should be more strong and law should be amend like that innocent must not be punished.

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    do you know? jab koi kisi per ilzaam lagata hain to wo wahi ilfaaz dorata hain jo ke usne kisi aor ki taraf se mansoob kiya hota hain. es ka matlab yea hain ke wo Khustakhy kar raha hain es liey usper b same case banana chahiey aor same saza milny chaiey.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arzu-e-Jana`N View Post
    100 % Agreed

    ilzam lagane wale ko saza-e-mot to kher nahi keh sktey lakin sakht saza zaroor honi chahye

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    ye to pherr qanoon ki bat he naa

    agr wo shakhs waqai qanoon ki roo se phansi deserve krta he to no problem
    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    do you know? jab koi kisi per ilzaam lagata hain to wo wahi ilfaaz dorata hain jo ke usne kisi aor ki taraf se mansoob kiya hota hain. es ka matlab yea hain ke wo Khustakhy kar raha hain es liey usper b same case banana chahiey aor same saza milny chaiey.

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    Chalo agreed ho gai. achi baat hain.

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    ye to pherr qanoon ki bat he naa

    agr wo shakhs waqai qanoon ki roo se phansi deserve krta he to no problem

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    han to sahi bat hogi to us se to agree kren ge hi
    hme koi dushmani thori he kisi se
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    Chalo agreed ho gai. achi baat hain.

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