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    امریکہ اور پاکستان: دو ممالک کی کامیابی کی جدوجہد

    ایسا کوئی دن نہیں گزرتا جب پاکستان اور امریکہ کی ہر نئی خبر کی جان بوج کر نقتہ چینی نہ کی جاتی ہو اور پھر دونوں ممالک کے درمیان غلط فہمی پیدا کرنے کیلئے خبروں کو غلط انداز میں نہ پیش کیا جاتا ہو۔ نظریاتی سازشوں کی مدد سے دونوں ممالک کی کوششوں کو رد کیا جاتا ہے اور اپنے مفاد کیلئے کام کرنے کا الزام لگایا جاتا ہے۔ لیکن ساتھ ہی یہ بھی ضروری ہے کہ ہم خود اپنی کامیابیوں کی اہمیت کو کم نہ کریں۔ پاکستان دہشت گردی کے خلاف لڑائی میں ایک اہم اتحادی ہے، جو ہمارے ممالک اور اقوام کیلئے خطرہ بنی ہوئی ہے۔ دہشت گردی ہمارے ممالک کیلئے باعث خطرہ ہے اور اس کے خلاف لڑائی میں پاکستان ہمارا ایک اہم ساتھی ہے۔ جیسا کہ صدر اوبامہ نے کہا، "ہم نے تقریباً سب سے زیادہ دہشت گردوں کو پاکستانی مٹی پر قتل کیا ہے۔ ہم یہ پاکستان کے تعاون کے بغیر نہیں کر سکتے تھے"۔ القائدہ کا سربراہ اور بین الاقوامی دہشت گرد اوسامہ بن لادن کا قتل اور پھر یونس ال موریتانی[ القائدہ تنظیم کے ایک اہم رکن] کی گرفتاری ہمارے متحد ہو کر کام کرنے کے فائدے کو ثابت کرتی ہے۔

    لیکن ساتھ ہی یہ کہنا بھی غلط ہو گا کہ اب تک کوئی مسائل پیش نہیں آئےاور نہ ہی دونوں ممالک کے درمیان کوئی اختلافات یہ مخالفت پیدا ہوئی ہے۔ جیسا کہ ایڈمرل ملن نے کچھ دن پہلے پاکستانی حکام کے ساتھ ایک اہم ملاقات کے دوران کہا، "اونچ نیچ تو ہوتی رہے گی"۔۔۔۔۔۔"ہمیں پچھلے کچھ مہینوں میں سخت مشکلات سے گزرنا پڑا ہے" اسی ملاقات کے دوران سیکرٹری پنیٹا نے بھی کہا، "ًمختصر اور سب سے اہم بات یہ ہے کہ ہم منزل تک پہنچنے کیلئے درست راہ پر چل رہے ہیں" اور "ہم نے طالبان کے خلاف کامیابی حاصل کی ہے لیکن ہم کچھ غیر متوقع واقعات کی وجہ سے اپنے آپ کو کامیابی حاصل کرنے سے نہیں روک سکتے۔"

    جو چیز یاد رکھنا ضروری ہے وہ یہ ہے کہ حوصلہ بڑھانا الزام لگانے سے کہیں زیادہ فائدہ مند ہوتا ہے۔ کیا ہمیں اپنی حکومتوں کو اپنے ممالک کی حفاظت کو ترجیح دینے پر داد نہیں دینی چاہیے؟ کیا ہمیں اس بات کا احساس نہیں کہ دہشت گردی اور شدت پسندی نہ صرف امریکہ بلکہ پاکستان کیلئے بھی خطرہ پیش کرتی ہے اور دونوں ممالک متحد ہو کر اس خطرے کو ختم کرنے کے خواہش مند ہیں؟

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    Oho acha hum to dost hain. Abhi to ek hi din hua tha chalo khair ab tariqay se chalna !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    kaafi socha k Ali khan ( Urf Mamu ) ko kiya comments karoon
    phir socha , MITTI PAAO

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    time to take care of home uncle sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by isfhan ahmad View Post
    kaafi socha k Ali khan ( Urf Mamu ) ko kiya comments karoon
    phir socha , MITTI PAAO
    Aap nay sahi socha. In ki auqaat hi nahi kay in ko jawab diya jaye. The Europeans hate American's they are just diplomatic. Also, some of the pseudo muslims who exploit our religion on US and other countries instructions to fulfill their agenda are bringing a bad name to us and thus US itself then highlights them and bombards and puts section etc. on countries like Pakistan.

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    Aur yaar is bicharay ki thread per thanks kar do. Ghareeb ki nokri chali jay gi!

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    Ashahid , Mysticreed waghayraa kahan hain iss ko thanks aur appreciate hi kar detay.

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    چور نلوں پنڈ کالی ۔۔

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    hahahahah!!! .. GUD JOKE !!! ... U r one TALENTED individual !!!

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    ameriki theek peetay hain, ISI ans na-pak Armay haqeeqat ma tu america ka he fund khati hai, jab aap kisi k tankha dar ho ge tu phir nakhra kesa, ya jehad aur hindustan dushmani sab gareeb awam ko qabo krnay k liya. munafiqon ka mulaq. isii liya na tumharee 32k death ke koi value hai kisi jaga na million of dollars ke jo is jang ma tum ne kharch keya. hor chopo ganay...jo ho raha hai vo he hona tha.

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    Mr. Ali , lets suppose Pakistan and USA are partners in war against drugs with Mexico and also suppose that some years ago , Pakistan had some interests in Mexico and is responsible to bring drugs and established drug gangs/lords in Mexico. During war, Pakistan is far far away so Mexican drug gangs are taking revenge from innocent American citizens who have nothing to do with it and are totally not responsible of establishing this war. USA is facing hatred of their own people , its economy is going down and at the same time , Pakistan is forcing USA to DO MORE against Mexican drug mafia, what do u call it???? well I will call it not a pleasant situation for USA.

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    Stop this BS, Centcom.

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    Dear Ali, I respectfully disagree with you. Since this war , we all are confuse that if Pakistan is friend or foo. We have very serious allegations to each others on government level. Basis on allegations, we can not say that we have common ground. Let me give you some examples:-

    1. Pakistan is still confuse if this is their war or not.
    2. USA is confuse if Pakistan is cooperating or not.
    3. Osama Case
    4. Ramond Davis Case
    5. Recently Kabil attack
    6. Politicians of both sides strongly against to each others.
    7. Pakistani politicians including Taliban continuously propaganda that CIA is involved in terrorism. And next day same politicians are shaking hand with US ambassadors or visiting USA. Pakistani politicians have very strong concerns against US governments and I have not seen any effort of US government to give detail answers about their allegations.
    8. USA people do not trust Pakistan and openly expressing their concerns (it is not started recently, it was from day one).

    Long story short, common person is confuse who is wrong who is right. Maybe that is the way, government run and common person does not understand this double standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isfhan ahmad View Post
    kaafi socha k Ali khan ( Urf Mamu ) ko kiya comments karoon
    phir socha , MITTI PAAO
    It is not time for Mitti Paao, I request to US Centcom to interact with Common Person who used to live in Pakistan or live in Pakistan and have ability to trying understand this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by live&love View Post
    Dear Ali, I respectfully disagree with you. Since this war , we all are confuse that if Pakistan is friend or foo. We have very serious allegations to each others on government level. Basis on allegations, we can not say that we have common ground. Let me give you some examples:-

    1. Pakistan is still confuse if this is their war or not.
    2. USA is confuse if Pakistan is cooperating or not.
    3. Osama Case
    4. Ramond Davis Case
    5. Recently Kabil attack
    6. Politicians of both sides strongly against to each others.
    7. Pakistani politicians including Taliban continuously propaganda that CIA is involved in terrorism. And next day same politicians are shaking hand with US ambassadors or visiting USA. Pakistani politicians have very strong concerns against US governments and I have not seen any effort of US government to give detail answers about their allegations.
    8. USA people do not trust Pakistan and openly expressing their concerns (it is not started recently, it was from day one).

    Long story short, common person is confuse who is wrong who is right. Maybe that is the way, government run and common person does not understand this double standard.

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    It is not time for Mitti Paao, I request to US Centcom to interact with Common Person who used to live in Pakistan or live in Pakistan and have ability to trying understand this game.
    main bhi ek aam Pakistani shehri hoon , Bahasiyat ek Pakistani mujhe achi terhan se maloom hai k US hamaray sath kiya kar raha hai or kiya karna chahta hai, isi liye Mitti pao likha tha, k behter hai apne Ilfaz zayaa mat karoon,
    ap ko kiya lagta hai ye Centcom (takacom) ap ko sach bataey ga , is ne wohi kuch likhna hai yahan jo is k godfathers ne likhnay k liye dena hai. aur jis Common Pakistani ki ap baat kar rahay ho wo understand nahi karta, tu ap zra kuch dair k liye nikliye baahir or common person se pochye k wo kiya sochta hai US k baaray mein,
    chalo is forum per poch latay hain common Person se ,
    Bhai Logo batao ap kiya sochtay ho US k baaray mein. wo kiya Chahta hai Pakistan se ?

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    live&love bro
    Mr ALi kuch dair pehlay is page per tha yaqeenan comments read ker raha hoga, lekin us ne ap k Questions ka answer dena munasib nahi smjhaa , u know y ? becoz us k pass ans hai he nahi , wo apnay godfaters se poch ker ans dey ga ap ko. kyon k jis job per wo hai wahan us ki apni koi raey nahi hoti.

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    picture of the day, better than thousand words !!!

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    1 Moti Aurat Ne Doosri Se Kaha:

    Tumhen Kabi Apne Mutaape Ka Ehsas Hua?

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    @live&love bro
    Mr ALi kuch dair pehlay is page per tha yaqeenan comments read ker raha hoga, lekin us ne ap k Questions ka answer dena munasib nahi smjhaa , u know y ? becoz us k pass ans hai he nahi , wo apnay godfaters se poch ker ans dey ga ap ko. kyon k jis job per wo hai wahan us ki apni koi raey nahi hoti.
    It is ok if he is asking to his superior to give answers. This is his right. I think it should be a line that what is going wrong from US side and what is wrong from Pakistani sides. After all one both sides good people are living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by live&love View Post
    It is ok if he is asking to his superior to give answers. This is his right. I think it should be a line that what is going wrong from US side and what is wrong from Pakistani sides. After all one both sides good people are living.
    come on yaar plz
    ager wo apnay superior se bhi pata ker k ap ko jawab dey ga , kiya wo sach hoga ? come on

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAG'NUM View Post
    I completely dislike this picture. Think for a second that if somebody put Pakistan flag on it how would you consider? Merey bhi jub cartoon bantay heney tou app longo maay bee itna zurf hona chahiyya kaaay usss kooo saha sukoo. If you respect others , others would respect you. That is why , I strongly condemn this action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isfhan ahmad View Post
    come on yaar plz
    ager wo apnay superior se bhi pata ker k ap ko jawab dey ga , kiya wo sach hoga ? come on
    Merey bhi, baat such aur jhoot keee nahi haaay, baat principal keee hay. I can only give you my thoughts. Iss duniyya maay jahana sub such nahi houta wahana sub jhoot bhee nahi houta. Aaffar hum naaay pheley heee apna mind set kaar liyya haaay kahy yeee tou jhoot heee bolay gaaa, tou isss baat keee kia guranteee haaay kaaaay hum sirf such heeey boltay heney. Atleast some thing should be on record and than time will tell who was right and wrong?

    Let me add one more thing, probably Pakistan is one of the few nation who loves to blame others and than kapary jhaar kaaar , mutmeeen hooo jatey heney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by live&love View Post
    I completely dislike this picture. Think for a second that if somebody put Pakistan flag on it how would you consider? Merey bhi jub cartoon bantay heney tou app longo maay bee itna zurf hona chahiyya kaaay usss kooo saha sukoo. If you respect others , others would respect you. That is why , I strongly condemn this action.


    دنیا کے کس کونے میں رہتے ہو ۔ یہ تصویر تمہارے گورئے صاحب نے فخریہ کھینچی ہوئی ہے ۔ ان کے لیے یہ کوئی بڑی بات نہیں ہے ۔ وہ تواپنے پرچم کا جانگیہ بھی بڑے فخر سے پہنتے ہیں ۔ یہ تو پاکستانیوں کے لیے بری بات ہوتی ہے ۔ یہاں یہ تصویرایک پاکستان کے ہمدرد کالے گورے کے لیے ہے ۔




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    Merey bhi, baat such aur jhoot keee nahi haaay, baat principal keee hay. I can only give you my thoughts. Iss duniyya maay jahana sub such nahi houta wahana sub jhoot bhee nahi houta. Aaffar hum naaay pheley heee apna mind set kaar liyya haaay kahy yeee tou jhoot heee bolay gaaa, tou isss baat keee kia guranteee haaay kaaaay hum sirf such heeey boltay heney. Atleast some thing should be on record and than time will tell who was right and wrong?

    Let me add one more thing, probably Pakistan is one of the few nation who loves to blame others and than kapary jhaar kaaar , mutmeeen hooo jatey heney.

    کیا بات ہے ؟ کہیں علی خان صاحب نے اپنی آدھی تنخواہ آپ کو دینے کا وعدہ تو نہیں کر لیا ؟

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