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    ایک سوال جو آج میرے ذھن میں ڈبکیاں لگا رھا ھے ۔ امید ھے کوئی اسے کنارے پر لانے میں مدد کرے گا۔۔
    پاکستان میں اردو بولنے والے کو مہاجر کہا جاتا ھے یا یوں کہیں کہ اردو بولنے والے پاکستانیوں نے اپنی شناخت کو مہاجر کا نام دے دیا ھے۔ اور اس پر نہ انہیں مہاجر ھونے یا کہلانے پر کوئی اعتراز نہی۔ بلکہ یہ نام تو اب کاروبار سیاست کا حصہ بن چکا ھے۔
    سوال یہ ھے۔ انڈیا میں لاکھوں مسلمان جو اردو بولتے ھیں ان کی زبان کے حوالے سے کیا شناخت ھے۔ کیا وہ اردوی کہلاتے ھیں۔ صرف مسلمان کہلاتے ھیں یا انڈین مسلم۔

    لیکن اگر پاکستان کے حوالے سے اردو بولنے والے کی شناخت فورا” مہاجر کے نام سے سامنے آتی ھے۔ لیکن 1947 میں تو لاکھوں پنجابی بولنے والوں نے بھی پاکستان ھجرت کی ۔ وہ اپنی شناخت مہاجر کیوں نہی بنا سکے۔

    اس سوال کا صیح جواب شاید ھمیں ایک قوم کرنے میں مدد دے سکے۔
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    Re: O n e q u e s t i o n ?

    Yaar who cares who came from where and speaks what languagae or practises whatever abcd religion. My take is different - why on earth those people who migrated to Pakistan have become the torch bearers and defenders of Islam ? You are the people who came to our lands so whatever type of religion people practise here is criticised by you as if only you know what Islam is and we are devoid of this knowledge. Dudes it were your mullas who failed to Islamicise the society around you and therefore you were not in majority in your regions and therefore your regions were not included in Pakistan in 1947 whilst the present Pakistan holded majority of Muslims and therefore we didn't had to move to some other location for this reason. Whether we know about Islam or not but people here were able to invite the majority to the true path in a peaceful, honourable and respectful manner.

    Your centers of excellence include Deoband, Bareily, Qadian, Azamgarh and the center of Ahle Hadis which I cannot remember and all of them today are in India simply because of the failure of your mullas to Islamicise the region from which they belonged to. We opened the doors and welcomed you lot whole heartedly but we got Zia and Musharraf and their selfishness in return along with the most weirdest mullas of the world. Kindly don't interfere in our religious affairs and mind your own business. Respect and get respected.

    PS:- There is no option left but to be blunt with those 'defenders of Islam' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not directed towards sensible people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: O n e q u e s t i o n ?

    Quote Originally Posted by alwaystruth View Post
    پھر وہی تعصّب پھر وہی اردو سپیکنگ کسی تھریڈ یا کسی کوممنٹس پردکھا دو میں نے اپنے آپکو اردو سپیکنگ یا مہاجر کہا ہو ہر دفعہ میں نے یہی کہا ہے کے آپ جیسے دوسرے لوگ ہی ہمیں مہاجر یا اردو سپیکنگ کہتے ہیں جیسا کے ابھی کہا ہے. جس دن آپ جیسے لوگوں میں سے تعصّب ختم ہوجاےگا اس دن یہ قوم ایک ہوجاےگی


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    Bhai mere humein kya maloom aapko kaisey kaisey laug miltey hain meine apna experience yahan share kardiya .. bhai mere Pakistan sey bahar aoo tu bohat sey aisey log milengey aapko .... rahi baat mindset ki tau mujhe tu yeh herat hai kay aapkey family members mein bhi aap kehrahey hain kay mein nahin kisi sey pochta kay unka talluk kahan sey hai .. yani kay koi gunjaish hai pochney ki ??????????

    sir jee main bhee pakistan main nahi rehta.peechlay 13 saal main mujhay tu koyee gathering aisee nahi milee.family member say muraad immediate family nahi hai.meray kitnay doost karachi say hain aur bohot hee kareebee jin say mai yahan per mila hoon.kabhi aisee baat unn say nahi sunee aur na kabhi kee.
    mujhay tu hairaat hoti hain jab mai FK per a ker loogo ko aisee batain kerta soonta hoon.
    aisa lagta hai kay jis pakistan may mai rehta tha woh koi aur pakistan hai.aur app kisi aur pakistan mai rehtay rahay hain.

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    A "Culture" needs a "Name"

    Culture consists of things like "mother language", cooking of different dishes, the customs etc.

    There are 5 major Cultures in Pakistan

    1. Punjabi Culture (.... people who belong to this Culture, they are known as PUNJABIES)
    2. Sindhi Culture
    3. Pushtoon Culture
    4. Baloochi Culture
    5. Kashmiri Culture

    Then there are sub-cultures like:

    1. Saraiki culture
    2. Barahwi culture
    3. Hazara culture
    4. Kafiristani culture etc.

    All these "Cultures" have separate "Names" through which they are recognized.

    The people, who migrated and came from India, they have also a specific Culture, which consists of language, Cooking style, customs etc.

    The biggest mistake was to not to give a specific NAME to this separate Culture at time of creation of Pakistan, through which this Culture could have been recognized.

    In 1951 Constituion, the name of these People was officially given as "Muhajirs". Since then this name carried on and still exist today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaystruth View Post

    Aik Pakistani tau parh sakta hai yeh jo bhi likha hai .. bahar haal aap mehnat na karein parhne ki jis ko parhna aaraha hai woh comments bhi de raha hai ...
    Mehnat is wrong. You should use Zehmat. Are you urdu speaking, or mixed?

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    Re: O n e q u e s t i o n ?

    yeh sirf MQM ki bharkyai aag hai warna or zubaneen bolne wale bhi aye the india se wo muhajir nhai kahte khud ko ..apne mulak main aye or jaise bhi set hoye ho gaye

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    Re: O n e q u e s t i o n ?

    Quote Originally Posted by alwaystruth View Post
    Lolipop liya hua koi bhi bacha ZID karta hai tau uski baat mani parti hai mere khattey methey
    Chalo kher ab jo marzi explanation detay rho , mujhay to ek baat nazar aai hai kay thorha sa insist kro to tum maan jatay ho. hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khosa View Post
    Mehnat is wrong. You should use Zehmat. Are you urdu speaking, or mixed?
    Another example .. I am not saying myself "Urdu Speaking" others are saying .... meine kaha hai na hum apne aap ko nahin kehtey balkey dosre logon ney humein is naam sey mansoob kardiya hai ....

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    Bhai thoora sa back ground ya hay kay urdu speakings jab migrate ker k aey Pakistan tau Sindh may unhay jaga mili baasnay ki kion kay punjab may unhay welcome he nahi kiya gaya (sunna hay baroo'n say) chunkaay in ka sab kuch waheen rah gaya thaa tau iss waastay inho nay education ki taraf tawajo di aur bilkul bottom line say agaay ki taraf barhna start howay aur phir itifaq ya howa kay Karachi jo kay port thaa wahan ya settle hogaey...... amoomi tuur pay Sindhi education ki jaanib itna dayhaan nahi dayta jab unho nay ya daikha kay ya tau aik force baantay jaa rahay hain aur ahista ahista Karachi ki tamam resources in k control may jaa rahi hain tau phir fasaad baarpa kiya gaya kabhi quotay k naam per aur kabhi qoom k naam per................. haad ya hay kay aj tak urdu speakings DOMICILE ki base per rah rahay hain unhay LOCAL tasawoor nahi kiya gaya..... iss tarah ki bohaat se baatain thee jin ki waja say urdu bolnay walay adaam istehkaam ka shikar howay aur unhay moqa parasto nay istimal kiya mahajir card use ker k.

    Aik wakiya bata dayta hoon apna personal..... meri walida last year road accident may intiqal kergaeyn theee Quetta say Karachi ataay howay Qallat city may wahan k doctors nay un k death certificate pay QOOM k agaay likha HINDUSTANI......... tau bhaai iss tarah ki bohaat sari cheezay hain jinhay sahi kernay ki zaroorat hay aur ya accept kerna paray ga kay PAKISTAN PAKISTANIO ka hay SINDHI, BALOCHI, PUNJABI AUR PUKHTOONO ka nahi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath3r View Post
    Bhai thoora sa back ground ya hay kay urdu speakings jab migrate ker k aey Pakistan tau Sindh may unhay jaga mili baasnay ki kion kay punjab may unhay welcome he nahi kiya gaya (sunna hay baroo'n say) chunkaay in ka sab kuch waheen rah gaya thaa tau iss waastay inho nay education ki taraf tawajo di aur bilkul bottom line say agaay ki taraf barhna start howay aur phir itifaq ya howa kay Karachi jo kay port thaa wahan ya settle hogaey...... amoomi tuur pay Sindhi education ki jaanib itna dayhaan nahi dayta jab unho nay ya daikha kay ya tau aik force baantay jaa rahay hain aur ahista ahista Karachi ki tamam resources in k control may jaa rahi hain tau phir fasaad baarpa kiya gaya kabhi quotay k naam per aur kabhi qoom k naam per................. haad ya hay kay aj tak urdu speakings DOMICILE ki base per rah rahay hain unhay LOCAL tasawoor nahi kiya gaya..... iss tarah ki bohaat se baatain thee jin ki waja say urdu bolnay walay adaam istehkaam ka shikar howay aur unhay moqa parasto nay istimal kiya mahajir card use ker k.

    Aik wakiya bata dayta hoon apna personal..... meri walida last year road accident may intiqal kergaeyn theee Quetta say Karachi ataay howay Qallat city may wahan k doctors nay un k death certificate pay QOOM k agaay likha HINDUSTANI......... tau bhaai iss tarah ki bohaat sari cheezay hain jinhay sahi kernay ki zaroorat hay aur ya accept kerna paray ga kay PAKISTAN PAKISTANIO ka hay SINDHI, BALOCHI, PUNJABI AUR PUKHTOONO ka nahi.
    Yehi cheez mein inko samjhane ki koshish karraha hoon kay bhai hum khud apne aapko Muhajir , Urdu Speaking nahin kehtey hain balkey humein mansooob kardiya gaya hai is naam sey ..... PLEASE LET US BE A PAKISTANI ...............

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    Aik baat yaad rakhna always truth buniyadi pehchaan MUSALMAN hona hay,, ya Pakistani hona ya aur kisi mulk ki pehchan ko apni pehchan bana na Allah ki qasam Allah k yahan zillat aur ruswaey ka humara sabab banay ga....

    Aik Sahabi say qoomiath ka naara laga Ansaar aur Muhajir Allah nay unhay aik JIN say jungle may khatam kerwa diya....... bohaat mardood hay wo insan Allah k nazdeek jo qoom ki buniyad pay zindagi guzarta hay ya nara buland kerta hay.

    Hum tau ajj bil amoom QOOM ki gaand may phaans gaey aur uss say bahar nikaltay hain tau duniya ki line say ki janay wali mehnat ko apni pehchaan bana laytay hain kitnay log nazar atay hain k jin ki pehchan doctor, engineer ya lawyer etc etc tau hay per MUSALMAN hona nahi.......

    Aj sab say ziada zaroorat ghar ghar may tooba k liya rona aur girgiranay ki hay kay Allah humaray iss jurm e azeem ko maaf kerday kay hum nay Allah ki de howe pehchan ko apni pehchan na banaya aur hum Qoom aur Maslak ki gaandagi may dhaans gaey.......

    Saray deobaandi, brailvi, ahlay hadess, jammati etc etc kal jootay khaeyn gay kion kay insay ya nahi pocha jaey ga k tum deobandi thaay ya brailvi, pakistani thaay ya afghani balkay sawal hoga kay EEMAAN WALAY thaay kay nahi............. Allah ko jantay thaay kay nahi, Nabi ko pehchantay thaay kay nahi.

    Allah humay samjha aur sujha daay kay hum sirf aur sirf App(S.A.W) k ummati hain aur humay Allah nay iss duniya may bhaija hay uss kaam ko dayker jo App(S.A.W) aur tamam Nabiyo ko diya gaya thaa aur wo kaam QOOM ya MULK ki buniyad per nahi mila balkay UMMATI ki hasiyath say mila hay Qayamat tak kay anay walay her ummati ko jahanum say bachaa nay ka.

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    @Ath3r , @alwaystruth :
    wah wah , I appreciate it, barhi achi batain ker rhay hain aap dono. Or jab itna sach bolnay hi lagay hain to thori si himmat or karain.
    Muhajir Qomi Movement , khud Altaf nay shroo ki thi or ye naam apnay liye khud select kiya tha , kisi nay zabardasti nahi diya tha. (Baad mai ismai say word muhajir ko change kerky muttahidda ker diya gya) .
    Kia baqi sab pakistani chahtay hain kay saray muhajiron ko utha ker sumandar mai phenk dain???? tab hi baqi sab ka kaleja thanda hoga????? Bilkul bhi nahi . Balkay sab pakistani chahtay hain kay extremism or criminals ko utha ker sumandar mai phenk diya jaye.
    MQM per ziada tanqeed ( jo kisi bhi ghalat kaam kerny walay Pakistani per honi chahiye regardless of qomiat) , ki kuch wajoohat hain or un wajoohat mai unka urduspeaking hona ya hijrat kerky aana bilkul nahi hai. Balkay asal mai ye wo propaganda hai jisko misuse kiya gya hai apni dukaan chamkanay walon nay .
    Baqi wajoohat ki details ka sum up wo halaat hain jo sirif karachi mai hotay hain , or pooray pakistan mai wesay halaat kahin nahi. Criminal elements ko palna , unki pushtpanahi , etc. agar MQM na karay to kisi ko kia takleef hai.
    According to wikileaks , Farooq sattar ka bayan is baray mai mojood hai .
    Or na sirif MQM balky koi bhi party agar extremism karay gi ya apnay criminals ko khulli azadi dygi to usper tanqeed zaroor hogi.
    Baqi party mai agar election kara ker koi acha leader select ker liya jaye , to halat achay ho saktay hain or aapka participation bhi ziada behtar ho sakta hai. Laiken JO QUAID KA GHADDAR HAI WO MOT KA HAQDAAR HAI and HAMAIN MANZIL NAHI REHNUMA CHAHIYE jesay extremist naray kisi achi jagha nahi poncha saktay hai Urdu speakings ko.

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    Wahhhhh ... Wahhhh ........ sugerboy bhai ney tau kamal hi kardiya saari public aapki takreer par khari hogayi hai ground mein :p
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    Yahan is thread ka jo mauzo tha us mein MQM tha hi nahin yahan baat horahi hai kay aaya jin logon kay forefather immigration lekar aaye they Pakistan tau unki 3rd generation ko bhi still Urdu Speaking, Muhajir ya Hindustani kyun kaha jata hai .......... lekin aapkay mind mein jo ghalazat aur tassub bhari batein bhari gayi hai aapke leaderan ki taraf sey woh kabhie khatam nahin hongi .........

    Is porey thread kay ander meine ya bhai Ath3r ney jo bhi comments diye hain us mein MQM ka koi zikar nahin tha .. masla ab yehi hai aap logon kay sath kay majority mein ab jo bhi Karachi sey belong karta hai us ko MQM sey jor diya jata hai kyunkay Karachi ka rehne wala "Muhajir" ya "Urdu Speaking" hota hai aap mane ya na maney lekin 80% aisa hi hota hai .. tau meine pehle bhi kaha hai kay aap jaisey logon ki wajah sey hi yeh MQM bani hai jinhoney 64 saal kay baad bhi Hijrat karke aane walo ko Muhajir ya Urdu speaking kay alkaaab sey yaad kya hai .. bhai Ath3r ney tau sirf "Hindustani" bataya hai warna tau aik naam aur hai jin sey bulaya jata hai woh hai "HINDUSTOREY". aap ney bekar mein is thread mein MQM ko daal kar apni filthy mind ki akkasi ki hai warna tau bhai Ath3r tau khud MQM ko barey ache alfaaz sey yaad kartey hain lekin aapke comment ney unko bhi MQM kay sath JOR diya :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugerboy View Post
    @Ath3r , @alwaystruth :
    wah wah , I appreciate it, barhi achi batain ker rhay hain aap dono. Or jab itna sach bolnay hi lagay hain to thori si himmat or karain.
    Muhajir Qomi Movement , khud Altaf nay shroo ki thi or ye naam apnay liye khud select kiya tha , kisi nay zabardasti nahi diya tha. (Baad mai ismai say word muhajir ko change kerky muttahidda ker diya gya) .
    Kia baqi sab pakistani chahtay hain kay saray muhajiron ko utha ker sumandar mai phenk dain???? tab hi baqi sab ka kaleja thanda hoga????? Bilkul bhi nahi . Balkay sab pakistani chahtay hain kay extremism or criminals ko utha ker sumandar mai phenk diya jaye.
    MQM per ziada tanqeed ( jo kisi bhi ghalat kaam kerny walay Pakistani per honi chahiye regardless of qomiat) , ki kuch wajoohat hain or un wajoohat mai unka urduspeaking hona ya hijrat kerky aana bilkul nahi hai. Balkay asal mai ye wo propaganda hai jisko misuse kiya gya hai apni dukaan chamkanay walon nay .
    Baqi wajoohat ki details ka sum up wo halaat hain jo sirif karachi mai hotay hain , or pooray pakistan mai wesay halaat kahin nahi. Criminal elements ko palna , unki pushtpanahi , etc. agar MQM na karay to kisi ko kia takleef hai.
    According to wikileaks , Farooq sattar ka bayan is baray mai mojood hai .
    Or na sirif MQM balky koi bhi party agar extremism karay gi ya apnay criminals ko khulli azadi dygi to usper tanqeed zaroor hogi.
    Baqi party mai agar election kara ker koi acha leader select ker liya jaye , to halat achay ho saktay hain or aapka participation bhi ziada behtar ho sakta hai. Laiken JO QUAID KA GHADDAR HAI WO MOT KA HAQDAAR HAI and HAMAIN MANZIL NAHI REHNUMA CHAHIYE jesay extremist naray kisi achi jagha nahi poncha saktay hai Urdu speakings ko.

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    Bhai jaan mera khayal hay kay may nay kaha kay chaand mufaad parasto nay muhajir card use ker kay iss moqay ka faida uthaya...... khair may MQM ka spokes person nahi jo ap ko jawab duun haan urdu speaking pehchan zaroor de gaey hay Pakistan may ap jaisay dostoo'n aur bhaiyo ki waja say.

    Jitna waqt may Quetta raha birth kay baad say tau log ya he pochtay thaay kay tum kis QOOM say ho tau bhaiya khud he jawab bhi daytay thaay kay acha mahajir ho...... laanat bhaijta hoon may Mahajir Qoomiyath pay ya kisi bhi Qoomiyath kay sath munsalik honay per........ Allah nay itni taufeeq daydi hay alhamdulilah kay atleast mujhay ab Qoom ka nara na muutasir kerta hay aur na mujhay iss taraf koi shook aur jaazba aur is ki waja sirf Allah kay raastay may nikalna aur deen ka wo mahool raha jahan pay Qoom aur Maslak say haat ker sirf Ummat ki baat ki jaati hay.

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    Wahhhhh ... Wahhhh ........ @sugerboy bhai ney tau kamal hi kardiya saari public aapki takreer par khari hogayi hai ground mein :p
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    Yahan is thread ka jo mauzo tha us mein MQM tha hi nahin yahan baat horahi hai kay aaya jin logon kay forefather immigration lekar aaye they Pakistan tau unki 3rd generation ko bhi still Urdu Speaking, Muhajir ya Hindustani kyun kaha jata hai .......... lekin aapkay mind mein jo ghalazat aur tassub bhari batein bhari gayi hai aapke leaderan ki taraf sey woh kabhie khatam nahin hongi .........

    Is porey thread kay ander meine ya bhai @Ath3r ney jo bhi comments diye hain us mein MQM ka koi zikar nahin tha .. masla ab yehi hai aap logon kay sath kay majority mein ab jo bhi Karachi sey belong karta hai us ko MQM sey jor diya jata hai kyunkay Karachi ka rehne wala "Muhajir" ya "Urdu Speaking" hota hai aap mane ya na maney lekin 80% aisa hi hota hai .. tau meine pehle bhi kaha hai kay aap jaisey logon ki wajah sey hi yeh MQM bani hai jinhoney 64 saal kay baad bhi Hijrat karke aane walo ko Muhajir ya Urdu speaking kay alkaaab sey yaad kya hai .. bhai @Ath3r ney tau sirf "Hindustani" bataya hai warna tau aik naam aur hai jin sey bulaya jata hai woh hai "HINDUSTOREY". aap ney bekar mein is thread mein MQM ko daal kar apni filthy mind ki akkasi ki hai warna tau bhai @Ath3r tau khud MQM ko barey ache alfaaz sey yaad kartey hain lekin aapke comment ney unko bhi MQM kay sath JOR diya :p
    Bohutt hi ziada masoom munnay say truth : Jahan tak meri naqis maloomat hain , mohajir sirif MQM walay hi apnay aap ko kehtay hain or koi nahi pooray pakistan mai. Baqi aap thred or topic ki baat krtay hain to konsa aisa thread hai jiss mai tum ko mila ker sab hi topic say stick rehtay hain? [ Achi baat wesay bhi kahin bhi ki ja sakti hai ]
    Second ye kay meri tarah kay log mohajir banatay nahi hain na meri wajah say banay hain balky banay hain tum jesay extremists ki wajah say jin ko koi baat bardasht nahi hai or jab itnii tareekh bayan ki ja rhi hai yahan to MQM (Mohajiron ki jamaat) ki baat kerdi to koi out of the topic baat nahi hai or na hi iskay baray mai kuch batana bohut out of context baat ho gai, Laiken maslay ki jarhh wohi extremism hai jis ka muzahira har tumharay jesay extremist ki tarf say zaroor dekhnay ko milay ga , adam bardasht khasa hai tumjesay logon ga bhi or un jeson ka bhi jinhon nay issi issue ko highlight kerky sab ko yarghamal banaya hoa hai. Dont try to be oversmart becoz u r not.
    Baqi ath3e ya kisi say bhi meri hamdardi iss liye nahi hogi kay jab wo mqm kay khilaaf bolay ga balky uss waqt hogi jab wo kisi bhi kisam ki burai ( bashamool mqm ki burai ) kay khilaaf bolay ga. Dont think others as narrow minded as u are and also koi or itna extremist nahi hai kay apni koi ghalat baat hai to usko sun nay ka hosla na ho. Baqi bhenss kay aagay been bajana fazool hai.
    Tareeqa e wardaat ye hai tumhara kay koi PTI ka banda, MQM ki baat kerdy to IK ki hazar buraiyan batado . Jamaat wala kerdy to uski hazaar buraiyan batado and so on........ Laiken apni koi baat kabhi nahi maan ni. Bas ek hi farishta sifat log utray hain yahan per or wo hain tum jesay extremist.

    p.s : In sab baton ka hargiz ye matlab nahi hai kay I am against urduspeaking or any people due to sects etc. Becoz koi bura nahi hai laiken agar extremist hai to zaroor bura hai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath3r View Post
    Bhai jaan mera khayal hay kay may nay kaha kay chaand mufaad parasto nay muhajir card use ker kay iss moqay ka faida uthaya...... khair may MQM ka spokes person nahi jo ap ko jawab duun haan urdu speaking pehchan zaroor de gaey hay Pakistan may ap jaisay dostoo'n aur bhaiyo ki waja say.

    Jitna waqt may Quetta raha birth kay baad say tau log ya he pochtay thaay kay tum kis QOOM say ho tau bhaiya khud he jawab bhi daytay thaay kay acha mahajir ho...... laanat bhaijta hoon may Mahajir Qoomiyath pay ya kisi bhi Qoomiyath kay sath munsalik honay per........ Allah nay itni taufeeq daydi hay alhamdulilah kay atleast mujhay ab Qoom ka nara na muutasir kerta hay aur na mujhay iss taraf koi shook aur jaazba aur is ki waja sirf Allah kay raastay may nikalna aur deen ka wo mahool raha jahan pay Qoom aur Maslak say haat ker sirf Ummat ki baat ki jaati hay.
    Yar dekho ,I appreciate ur thoughts , koi bhi zuban ya qomiat sirif pehchan kay liye hai warna zahir hai ham sab pakistani hain. Na hi zaban say koi barha banta hai na chota balky banta hai apnay amal say. Aap nay baat mufad paraston ki , ki hai jinhon nay use kiya situation ko ,mai bhi yehi kehta hoon , laiken ziada baat iss liye kerdi hai mainay kay ye jo @alwaystruth jesay log jo derh hoshiyar bantay hain , ye har baat ko twist kerky apnay haq mai or doosron ko bura bananay mai lagay rehtay hain. kher.... Urdu kisi bhi firqay ki zaban nahi hai ye Pakistan ki qomi zaban hai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath3r View Post
    Bhai jaan mera khayal hay kay may nay kaha kay chaand mufaad parasto nay muhajir card use ker kay iss moqay ka faida uthaya...... khair may MQM ka spokes person nahi jo ap ko jawab duun haan urdu speaking pehchan zaroor de gaey hay Pakistan may ap jaisay dostoo'n aur bhaiyo ki waja say.

    Jitna waqt may Quetta raha birth kay baad say tau log ya he pochtay thaay kay tum kis QOOM say ho tau bhaiya khud he jawab bhi daytay thaay kay acha mahajir ho...... laanat bhaijta hoon may Mahajir Qoomiyath pay ya kisi bhi Qoomiyath kay sath munsalik honay per........ Allah nay itni taufeeq daydi hay alhamdulilah kay atleast mujhay ab Qoom ka nara na muutasir kerta hay aur na mujhay iss taraf koi shook aur jaazba aur is ki waja sirf Allah kay raastay may nikalna aur deen ka wo mahool raha jahan pay Qoom aur Maslak say haat ker sirf Ummat ki baat ki jaati hay.
    Baat sirf itni si hi hai jo mein bhi janab sugerboy bhai ko samjhana chah raha hoon lekin baat shayad in kay level sey oper ki hai is liye hazam nahin horahi hai aur bar bar MQM ka sahara lekar mauzoo change kardetey hain .... thread post karne wale ka sawal tha kay aaj ki generation bhi apne aapko Muhajir kyun kehti hain usi kay jawab mein aapne bhi apna expereince share kya aur meine bhi lekin kuch laug aesey hain jin ko tassub kay ilawa kuch nahin aata hai aur neutral thread ko bhi MQM sey jor diya .. masla yehi hai kay peechey sey inkay itne brain wash kye gaye hain kay yeh zeher tau inko ugalna hi hai ... Nick sey apne aapko bara MEETHA show karna aur ander sey KARWEY ... yehi munafkat tau inko le dobe gi ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lllcolumbuslll View Post
    hijrat say nikla ya india say nikla to kia hamaisha kay liye muhajir ho giya?? 1947 ka bacha perdada bun giyaa laikin phir bhi her roz lakhon muhajir is dunia mein aa rahay hain. is ki definition poochi thee. apni nazuk andaam aqal say kuch rooshni daliye.. shukria
    Muhajir to srf usi ko kehtey hen jo hijrat krta hai

    ye koi zat pat thori hai k aik shakhs ne hijrat ki to us ki saat naslen muhajir hi kehlayen gi???

    or wo b khasoosan pakistan India wali hijrat me to ............jo hijrat krk us wqt apne watan aye they unhe muhajir kaha jaskta hai

    lakin ab...? apne watan me khud hi ko muhajir bolna......bht hi bewaqoofana bat hai ya shyd ye kahun gi k jan booj kr GROUPS MR BATNE WALI BAT HAI

    ye rahi meri nazuk andam aqal se di gai definition..to kher nahi bt explaintaion


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    Quote Originally Posted by sugerboy View Post
    Yar dekho ,I appreciate ur thoughts , koi bhi zuban ya qomiat sirif pehchan kay liye hai warna zahir hai ham sab pakistani hain. Na hi zaban say koi barha banta hai na chota balky banta hai apnay amal say. Aap nay baat mufad paraston ki , ki hai jinhon nay use kiya situation ko ,mai bhi yehi kehta hoon , laiken ziada baat iss liye kerdi hai mainay kay ye jo @alwaystruth jesay log jo derh hoshiyar bantay hain , ye har baat ko twist kerky apnay haq mai or doosron ko bura bananay mai lagay rehtay hain. kher.... Urdu kisi bhi firqay ki zaban nahi hai ye Pakistan ki qomi zaban hai.
    Arrey Arrey .. mere sugerboy bhai kitni meethi meethi baatein karne lag gaye apne nick ki tarah jaisey hi inko pata chala kay Ath3r bhai ka koi talluk nahin hai MQM sey warna jo expereince bhai Ather ney share kya hai waisa hi mera hai lekin mere sey baat karne ka andaz-e- bayan check karein aur bhai Ather kay sath.... isi ko munafikat kehtey hain bhai jaaan ... is thread ka question kisi party sey related nahin tha aik neutral tha jis mein bhai Ather ney bhi apna experience diya aur meine bhi lekin ... sugerboy bhai ney dono kay experience ko kis tarah liya hai yeh parhne walo ko andaaza hoga

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaystruth View Post
    Arrey Arrey .. mere @sugerboy bhai kitni meethi meethi baatein karne lag gaye apne nick ki tarah jaisey hi inko pata chala kay @Ath3r bhai ka koi talluk nahin hai MQM sey warna jo expereince bhai Ather ney share kya hai waisa hi mera hai lekin mere sey baat karne ka andaz-e- bayan check karein aur bhai Ather kay sath.... isi ko munafikat kehtey hain bhai jaaan ... is thread ka question kisi party sey related nahin tha aik neutral tha jis mein bhai Ather ney bhi apna experience diya aur meine bhi lekin ... @sugerboy bhai ney dono kay experience ko kis tarah liya hai yeh parhne walo ko andaaza hoga
    Aaj hijrat kerkay aanay wala koi shakhss apnay aap ko mohajir nahi kehta sirif Pakistani kehta hai siwaye ek firqay kay . Yehi topic tha na thread ka .is baat per thread ka topic khatam ho gya. ok?? Tassalli ho gai hai ya nahi?
    To baat aagay jab us firqay ki hoi to wo koi red indian qabeela to hai nahi , haina??? yahin kay log hain na????
    to wo kon hain???? ab unki baat ki ja sakti hai ya nahi ????? kay wo aisay q banay?????? kis nay banaya????? kiyoon pakistani nahi kehelwatay?????? kiyoon still mohajir hi hain??????? un ki jamaat konsi hai?????? unki jamat ki wajah say karachi kay halaat kesay hain??????? ye sab in context batain hain .
    Laiken adam bardasht ka koi ilaaj nahi hai.
    Na hi mujhay tumhari tarah koi hoshiyari dikhanay ki zaroorat hai ath3r ya kisi ki hamdardi lainay kay liye.
    or waqai Andaza sab ko ab tak hona hi nahi chahiye balkay ho chuka hai munnoo mian.
    Na hi har ek kay moon mai aap ani zaban daal saktay hain

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugerboy View Post
    Aaj hijrat kerkay aanay wala koi shakhss apnay aap ko mohajir nahi kehta sirif Pakistani kehta hai siwaye ek firqay kay . Yehi topic tha na thread ka .is baat per thread ka topic khatam ho gya. ok?? Tassalli ho gai hai ya nahi? AIK FIRKA KEHTA NAHIN HAI BALKEY UNKO DOSREY LOAG KEHTEY HAIN JABHIE WOH BHI APNI IDENTITY NAHIN BADAL PARAHEY HAIN MERE KHATTEY MEETHEY BHAI
    To baat aagay jab us firqay ki hoi to wo koi red indian qabeela to hai nahi , haina??? yahin kay log hain na????
    to wo kon hain???? ab unki baat ki ja sakti hai ya nahi ????? kay wo aisay q banay?????? kis nay banaya????? kiyoon pakistani nahi kehelwatay?????? kiyoon still mohajir hi hain??????? un ki jamaat konsi hai?????? unki jamat ki wajah say karachi kay halaat kesay hain??????? ye sab in context batain hain .
    Laiken adam bardasht ka koi ilaaj nahi hai.
    Na hi mujhay tumhari tarah koi hoshiyari dikhanay ki zaroorat hai ath3r ya kisi ki hamdardi lainay kay liye.
    or waqai Andaza sab ko ab tak hona hi nahi chahiye balkay ho chuka hai munnoo mian.
    MQM tau khud is Janjaal sey nikalna chahti hai lekin Zulfiqar Mirza jaisey loug phir majboor kartey aisa banne par yaad hai na "BHOOKEY NANGEY LOOG" yani kay abhi tak dil sey tasleem nahin kya jata hai ... Karachi Hyderabad kay logon ko still Quota systems mein latkaya hua hai ... bhai mere reality ko samjho aaj aap kahin apna rishta karogey ya apne kisi behan bhai ka tau pehle LARKI ya LARKEY ki cast maloom ki jaati hai .. wahan bhi yeh koi nahin check karta kay sab Pakistani hain aur sab muslims .. jab LARKA ya LARKI karachi ya Hyderabad sey hoga aur Sindhi bolne wala nahin hoga tu definitely uski cast Urdu speaking hi samjhi jayegi ... yani kay koi na koi tau naam dena hi hai na is QOUM ko .... is liye isko urdu speaking kehna shrou kardiya gaya hai ... kyun PUNJAB ka rehne wal apne aap ko PUNJABI kehta hai .. KPK ka rehne wala apne aapko pakhtun kehta hai tau hum Sindh key rehne wale Sindhi kyun nahin kehlatey hain kyun humein Urdu speaking ka naam diya jata hai .. sirf is liye hum Sindhi nahin kehlatey hain kay hum Sindhi Bolna nahin jantey ??? Bhai mere Dimagh kay darwazey khol kar reality ko samjhoo aur MQM ko rakhdo aik side par aur neutral hokar sochoo ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaystruth View Post
    MQM tau khud is Janjaal sey nikalna chahti hai lekin Zulfiqar Mirza jaisey loug phir majboor kartey aisa banne par yaad hai na "BHOOKEY NANGEY LOOG" yani kay abhi tak dil sey tasleem nahin kya jata hai ... Karachi Hyderabad kay logon ko still Quota systems mein latkaya hua hai ... bhai mere reality ko samjho aaj aap kahin apna rishta karogey ya apne kisi behan bhai ka tau pehle LARKI ya LARKEY ki cast maloom ki jaati hai .. wahan bhi yeh koi nahin check karta kay sab Pakistani hain aur sab muslims .. jab LARKA ya LARKI karachi ya Hyderabad sey hoga aur Sindhi bolne wala nahin hoga tu definitely uski cast Urdu speaking hi samjhi jayegi ... yani kay koi na koi tau naam dena hi hai na is QOUM ko .... is liye isko urdu speaking kehna shrou kardiya gaya hai ... kyun PUNJAB ka rehne wal apne aap ko PUNJABI kehta hai .. KPK ka rehne wala apne aapko pakhtun kehta hai tau hum Sindh key rehne wale Sindhi kyun nahin kehlatey hain kyun humein Urdu speaking ka naam diya jata hai .. sirf is liye hum Sindhi nahin kehlatey hain kay hum Sindhi Bolna nahin jantey ??? Bhai mere Dimagh kay darwazey khol kar reality ko samjhoo aur MQM ko rakhdo aik side par aur neutral hokar sochoo ....
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