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    خود کو ایماندار اور پارسا ظاہر کرنے والا رہنما


    اس میں کوئی شک نہیں کہ سب سیاست دان اپنے اثاثے الیکشن کمیشن میں ظاہر کرتےہیں۔ سوال یہ ہے کہ کیا وہ اثاثے ان کی سماجی و معاشی حثیت سے میل کھاتے ہیں یا نہیں۔
    عمران خان نے اپنے اثاثے الیکشن کمیشن میں 2007 کو دیے ہیں۔ ان کی تفصیل درج ذیل ہیں۔
    کل مالیت 3 کروڑ 45 لاکھ 45 ہزار 769 روپے
    اسلام آباد میں 39 کنال 9 مرلے زرعی زمین؛ قیمت صرف 8 لاکھ 30 ہزار روپے
    موہڑہ نور اسلام آباد 300 کنال زمین : تحفہ میں دی گئی۔
    میاں چنوں میں 530 کنال زمین؛ قیمت صرف 50 ہزار روپے۔


    ہے کوئی پی ٹی آئی کا پیروکار جو بتا سکے کہ یہ سب جائیداد کب کیسے خریدی گئی۔
    جو یہ بتا سکے کہ اسلام آباد میں 39 کنال اور 9 مرلے زمین کی مالیت صرف 8 لاکھ اور 30 ہزار روپے کیسے ہو سکتی ہے۔
    موہڑہ نور اسلام آباد میں 300 کنال کس نے تحفے میں دی وہ بھی اس ملک میں جہاں جائیداد کی خاطر لڑکیوں کی شادیاں
    قرآن سے کر دی جاتی ہے۔ بھائی بھائی کا خون کر دیتا ہے۔ وہاں 300 کنال زمین کا تحفہ۔


    پانچ سو تیس کنال زمین کی قیمت صرف 50 ہزار روپے۔ میں عمران خان کو اس زمین کی قیمت 5 لاکھ آفر کرتا ہوں۔۔

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    Re: خود کو ایماندار اور پارسا ظاہر کرنے والا رہنما

    Quote Originally Posted by lllcolumbuslll View Post
    اسکول کے بچوں سے اب کیا بات کی جائے۔
    haan theek kaha ibn e batoota sahab. aap k to leaders k kim barker k ilawa kisi sy baat nahi krty....ap kion school k bacchon sy baat krain gy??

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    come on yar; you are a sensible man. i wrote that you will write the value of assets in which year you are submitting you nomination papers not the value of that time when you bought it. do you think it doesn't not matter. its matter my friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by yacir View Post
    thats' why i wrote that in details in my first post.
    there is no sense asking the person to declare the current market value of his belongings. he is not declaring the assets to sell these.
    The law should be to declare whatevr he possesses and the means of acquiring the property, and obviously the price at which it was bought i.e. sales deed.

    Once declared...it does not matter if it worth Rs50 or Rs 50 million now!!!! it is not meant for business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    come on yar; you are a sensible man. i wrote that you will write the value of assets in which year you are submitting you nomination papers not the value of that time when you bought it. do you think it doesn't not matter. its matter my friend.
    Can you give the proof that LAW requires you to declare the current value of the asset at the time of declaration??????

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    Re: خود کو ایماندار اور پارسا ظاہر کرنے والا رہنما

    Yes why not. i am giving you link of election commission and here is the form on which its clearly mentioned present value of property.

    http://www.ecp.gov.pk/ElectionLaws/Volume-I.pdf



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    Can you give the proof that LAW requires you to declare the current value of the asset at the time of declaration??????
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    Re: خود کو ایماندار اور پارسا ظاہر کرنے والا رہنما

    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    Yes why not. i am giving you link of election commission and here is the form on which its clearly mentioned present value of property.

    http://www.ecp.gov.pk/ElectionLaws/Volume-I.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by true.face View Post
    haan theek kaha ibn e batoota sahab. aap k to leaders k kim barker k ilawa kisi sy baat nahi krty....ap kion school k bacchon sy baat krain gy??

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    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    Yes why not. i am giving you link of election commission and here is the form on which its clearly mentioned present value of property.

    http://www.ecp.gov.pk/ElectionLaws/Volume-I.pdf


    Thanks for sharing the link.
    Do not ignore the very first column that mentions "Cost of Assets"




    Now the question is : did IK declare the said value in "Cost OF Assets" or "Present Value".

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    Good point. by the way both columns should be filled up and what IK did for that you need to consult IK. Tell me what he will give you ans. I will waiting............

    Quote Originally Posted by yacir View Post
    Thanks for sharing the link.
    Do not ignore the very first column that mentions "Cost of Assets"



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    Now the question is : did IK declare the said value in "Cost OF Assets" or "Present Value".

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    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    Good point. by the way both columns should be filled up and what IK did for that you need to consult IK. Tell me what he will give you ans. I will waiting............
    NO BROTHER!!!!!
    YOU have accused him for declaring false values!!!!
    IK must give the answers if he declared it as presnet value.....BUT YOU are responsible for proving that he has declared it in "PRESENT" value column.

    Did you double checked it before staring your thread??????????????

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    you are PTIs and you can give good ans. your are claiming change and you have to ask from your leader. By total value it can be said that he put total value wrongly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yacir View Post
    NO BROTHER!!!!!
    YOU have accused him for declaring false values!!!!
    IK must give the answers if he declared it as presnet value.....BUT YOU are responsible for proving that he has declared it in "PRESENT" value column.

    Did you double checked it before staring your thread??????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    you are PTIs and you can give good ans. your are claiming change and you have to ask from your leader. By total value it can be said that he put total value wrongly.


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    what????? urdu main explain kar de bhayeeee....

    you have started the thread and you have accused him for falsehood.
    are you not responsible for providing the proof of your claim?????
    are you not responsible of making sure of your claim before blaming others??????
    what our deen says about putting blames on others WITHOUT proof???????

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    ارے بھائی میں نے کہا کہ تم پی ٹی آئی والے ہو اور تم نے تبدیلی کی سیاست بھی کرنی ہے تو تم صحیح جواب دے سکتے ہو۔ اپنے لیڈر سے پوچھو کہ اس نے کیا لکھا تھا اپنے فارم میں۔ اور ہو سکے تو اس سے کہو کہ اپنی ویب سائیٹ پر اس کی کاپی بھی پوسٹ کر دے۔ میں نے کہا کہ کل مالیت کے مطابق تو یہ لگتا ہے کہ اس نے غلط گوشوارے دیے ہیں۔
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    what????? urdu main explain kar de bhayeeee....

    you have started the thread and you have accused him for falsehood.
    are you not responsible for providing the proof of your claim?????
    are you not responsible of making sure of your claim before blaming others??????
    what our deen says about putting blames on others WITHOUT proof???????

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    ارے بھائی میں نے کہا کہ تم پی ٹی آئی والے ہو اور تم نے تبدیلی کی سیاست بھی کرنی ہے تو تم صحیح جواب دے سکتے ہو۔ اپنے لیڈر سے پوچھو کہ اس نے کیا لکھا تھا اپنے فارم میں۔ اور ہو سکے تو اس سے کہو کہ اپنی ویب سائیٹ پر اس کی کاپی بھی پوسٹ کر دے۔ میں نے کہا کہ کل مالیت کے مطابق تو یہ لگتا ہے کہ اس نے غلط گوشوارے دیے ہیں۔
    Tou bhayyaa, maine bhi yehi kaha hai ke IK ne jo bhi ghalat bayani ki hai (Ager Ki Hai) .. tou wo uska Jawaab Deh Hoga...aur sirf Jawab Deh hi nahi balke SAZA KA MUSTAHIQ HOGA!!!!

    yahan baat main aapke start karda thread ki kar raha hoon!
    SO...did you verified that he has submitted the value for "PRESENT" OR "COST" ??????? That is my question to YOU. (no for IK, so am seeking answer from you!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    ارے بھائی میں نے کہا کہ تم پی ٹی آئی والے ہو اور تم نے تبدیلی کی سیاست بھی کرنی ہے تو تم صحیح جواب دے سکتے ہو۔ اپنے لیڈر سے پوچھو کہ اس نے کیا لکھا تھا اپنے فارم میں۔ اور ہو سکے تو اس سے کہو کہ اپنی ویب سائیٹ پر اس کی کاپی بھی پوسٹ کر دے۔ میں نے کہا کہ کل مالیت کے مطابق تو یہ لگتا ہے کہ اس نے غلط گوشوارے دیے ہیں۔
    Tou bhayyaa, maine bhi yehi kaha hai ke IK ne jo bhi ghalat bayani ki hai (Ager Ki Hai) .. tou wo uska Jawaab Deh Hoga...aur sirf Jawab Deh hi nahi balke SAZA KA MUSTAHIQ HOGA!!!!

    yahan baat main aapke start karda thread ki kar raha hoon!
    SO...did you verified that he has submitted the value for "PRESENT" OR "COST" ??????? That is my question to YOU. (no for IK, so am seeking answer from you!)

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    well said,.you want to say, since i started the thread and thats why i will give the ans. Sharif brothers declared their assets then why you people and your leader said that they did not declared actual assets. If you have proof then you must prove it. I gave you total assets of Imran Khan; if you compare with it then it is proved that he submitted wrong figure. agar IK ne real show kiey hotey, mean present value kiey hotey to prog main wahi show kiey jatey.

    Quote Originally Posted by yacir View Post
    Tou bhayyaa, maine bhi yehi kaha hai ke IK ne jo bhi ghalat bayani ki hai (Ager Ki Hai) .. tou wo uska Jawaab Deh Hoga...aur sirf Jawab Deh hi nahi balke SAZA KA MUSTAHIQ HOGA!!!!

    yahan baat main aapke start karda thread ki kar raha hoon!
    SO...did you verified that he has submitted the value for "PRESENT" OR "COST" ??????? That is my question to YOU. (no for IK, so am seeking answer from you!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    well said,.you want to say, since i started the thread and thats why i will give the ans. Sharif brothers declared their assets then why you people and your leader said that they did not declared actual assets. If you have proof then you must prove it. I gave you total assets of Imran Khan; if you compare with it then it is proved that he submitted wrong figure. agar IK ne real show kiey hotey, mean present value kiey hotey to prog main wahi show kiey jatey.





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    Quote Originally Posted by khanaafaq View Post
    well said,.you want to say, since i started the thread and thats why i will give the ans. Sharif brothers declared their assets then why you people and your leader said that they did not declared actual assets. If you have proof then you must prove it. I gave you total assets of Imran Khan; if you compare with it then it is proved that he submitted wrong figure. agar IK ne real show kiey hotey, mean present value kiey hotey to prog main wahi show kiey jatey.
    yaar..ya tou main aapko baat samjha nahi paa raha ...ya aap samajhna nahi chahtay!!!!!!
    you have no clue if IK has declared "COST" or "PRESENT" value....and you started accusing him for Falsehood!!!!!! THAT IS MY POINT!!!!!!!

    I am quite sure it was "COST" at which IK purchased it...as Kashif Testified one of the "purchases"!!!!!
    If you have proof that he declared "PRESENT" value....then show to me....otherwise it is useless debate!!!!


    about NS (hidden) assets...yes . PTI should provide the proof if they claim it....and i'm sure they will do it in near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yacir View Post
    Thanks for sharing the link.
    Do not ignore the very first column that mentions "Cost of Assets"




    Now the question is : did IK declare the said value in "Cost OF Assets" or "Present Value".

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    looks like chamcha geeri gives you selective vision ,
    the deceit is that he didn't fill both columns.

    you will have to agree he is not as clean as he is making out to be !
    so tell Ik to shut-up and start talking policies .

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    looks like chamcha geeri gives you selective vision ,
    the deceit is that he didn't fill both columns.

    you will have to agree he is not as clean as he is making out to be !
    so tell Ik to shut-up and start talking policies .
    everyone knows who is "CHAMCHA" of WHO ... so better to keep your accusation to deserving ones!!
    now...proof your claim that he did deceive!!!! if you're truthful

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