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    Taliban are not our enemy, says Joe Biden as US to negotiate deal to end Afghanistan war | Mail Online


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    The Taliban are not our enemy, says Biden as U.S. prepares to negotiate prisoner transfer deal

    Vice-president said the Islamist group only represents a threat if it allows Al-Qaeda to strike at the U.S.
    U.S. prepares to negotiate a peace deal with the Taliban

    By Graham Smith

    Last updated at 3:02 PM on 20th December 2011

    The Taliban are not an enemy of the U.S. and should not be talked about in such terms, Joe Biden has claimed.

    The vice-president said the militant Islamist group only represents an inherent threat if it allows Al-Qaeda to strike at the U.S.

    In an interview with Newsweek, Mr Biden warned against labelling the Taliban as an enemy.
    Language of peace? Joe Biden said the Taliban only represents an inherent threat if it allows Al-Qaeda to strike at the U.S.

    Language of peace? Joe Biden said the Taliban only represents an inherent threat if it allows Al-Qaeda to strike at the U.S.

    He said: 'That's critical. There is not a single statement that the president has ever made in any of our policy assertions that the Taliban is our enemy because it threatens U.S. interests.'

    Mr Biden's comments come as senior U.S. officials prepare to negotiate a peace deal with Taliban militants.

    Even after a surge in U.S. troops in Afghanistan has pushed the Taliban out of much of their southern stronghold, the group's intentions regarding peace talks remain unclear.

    A senior Taliban commander, speaking after U.S. officials' description of the peace process was published on Sunday, denied the group is engaged in negotiations.

    'Our position on talks remains the same. All occupying forces have to leave Afghanistan. Then we can talk,' the commander told Reuters.

    It is thought that the Taliban might deny taking part in initial discussions to shore up morale among fighters on the ground.

    But the news of possible peace talks with the Taliban has been met with some resistance, illustrating the political risk the Obama administration is taking by considering a prisoner transfer.
    Down with arms? U.S. officials are preparing to negotiate a peace deal with Taliban militants

    Down with arms? U.S. officials are preparing to negotiate a peace deal with Taliban militants

    Government officials claim a transfer of Taliban prisoners from the Guantanamo Bay military prison into Afghan government custody could be one confidence-building measure critical to making progress towards a peace deal between the Taliban and the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

    But a key Republican senator yesterday warned against negotiations with the Taliban.

    Senator Saxby Chambliss, senior Republican on the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee, said: 'It sounds as if the administration has decided to negotiate with terrorists, something the United States does not do.

    'Handing over detainees, who likely continue to pose a threat to the United States, should not be the first step in building confidence.'

    Officials are not optimistic about their chances of clinching a deal, but they hope the transfer of five Taliban detainees and other possible confidence-building measures, including a Taliban denunciation of terrorism, might lead to authentic Afghan-Taliban talks on the war-torn country's political future.
    'It sounds as if the administration has decided to negotiate with terrorists, something the United States does not do'

    Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss


    White House efforts to strike a deal with a repressive Islamist movement that has been killing U.S. soldiers for a decade - even if it is now widely accepted the war cannot be won on the battlefield alone - could become a liability for Mr Obama in an election year.

    Mr Chambliss said: 'Any discussion of prisoner transfers should only be done after an agreement to cease hostilities has been reached.

    'It should be done in the open, with thorough oversight from Congress and visibility for the American people about exactly who these detainees are and what terrorist acts they committed.'

    Officials said the possible transfer of detainees would be a 'national decision' made in consultation with Congress in accordance with new rules for handling detainees.

    Mr Obama is expected to shortly sign into law the 2011 defence authorisation bill, which includes provisions that would broaden the military's involvement in detaining suspected militants and require the Pentagon to certify in most cases certain security conditions will be met before prisoners can be sent home.

    But the White House has stressed that any real negotiations must take place directly between the Karzai government and the Taliban, with U.S. diplomats only playing a facilitating role.

    Yet it is clear that in Washington, there is a growing willingness to engage directly with the Taliban as foreign troops edge closer towards the exit in Afghanistan.

    Mr Obama has promised to withdraw his 33,000 surge troops by next autumn, and most foreign combat troops are expected to be gone by the end of 2014, leaving Afghan forces in the lead.

    A modest U.S. troop presence is expected to stay beyond that, focused on counter-terrorism and training local forces.

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    I can clearly see an imposed paradigm shift for a lot of 'liberals', 'leftists' and 'moderns'!
    door kion jana hai...........isi forum par bi hain kafi saray....'yeh hamaree jung hai' thaa thaa.....

    looks like 'sons of dollar' aka 'Pak army generals', the spiritual off springs of Mushkutee, are going to be dumped, deprived and ditched!

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    Joe Biden is already being vociferously criticized by many Americans. What they fail to understand is that its not the the Taliban that are fighting them, it is the history of the world that is against them. Vietnam, Cambodia against the US 1960s, Iraq in the early 1900s against the British, and French in the Northern African states in the earlier centuries. and of course the Russians. Native people will fight if a foreign invader comes and takes over. Just like the Americans themselves fought against the British rule. This does not make the Taliban angels. Its just natural that anyone would fight if invaded. So, moral of the story is to avoid war at any cost and negotiate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverblaze View Post
    Joe Biden is already being vociferously criticized by many Americans. What they fail to understand is that its not the the Taliban that are fighting them, it is the history of the world that is against them. Vietnam, Cambodia against the US 1960s, Iraq in the early 1900s against the British, and French in the Northern African states in the earlier centuries. and of course the Russians. Native people will fight if a foreign invader comes and takes over. Just like the Americans themselves fought against the British rule. This does not make the Taliban angels. Its just natural that anyone would fight if invaded. So, moral of the story is to avoid war at any cost and negotiate.
    بے چارے بغیر جوتی کے دس سال اپنی جانوں سے مقابلہ کرتے رہے اور بھائی صاحب نے اسے تاریخ کی ٹوکری میں ڈال دیا ۔

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolipop2 View Post
    بے چارے بغیر جوتی کے دس سال اپنی جانوں سے مقابلہ کرتے رہے اور بھائی صاحب نے اسے تاریخ کی ٹوکری میں ڈال دیا ۔
    What are you talking about? Is this historical context wrong?

    Were the people who were fighting for over 500 years against the invading forces , staying in hotels? Vietnam , Iraq, Algeria, Egypt. Their bones were crushed to make glue by the invading forces. However, its your choice and your view whatever you want to believe - I have no right impose my views on you.

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    Taliban aur America apps main dushman nahin hain....correct... but Taliban and America have a common enemy i.e Pakistan.

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    Taliban aur America apps main dushman nahin hain....correct... but Taliban and America have a common enemy i.e Pakistan.
    if u have bit of mind, usa was having war with afghan taliban

    Taliban Govt was THE ONLY GOVT IN last 60 years and till today which was Pro-Pakistan...

    Show me a single statement from them which was against Pakistan during their Govt

    Even they had said and they still say that We shall be with Pakistan if india or usa attacks Pakistan

    But just think now, in this bull**** war , Why the hell we supported usa against Afgahns???YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

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    if u have bit of mind, usa was having war with afghan taliban

    Taliban Govt was THE ONLY GOVT IN last 60 years and till today which was Pro-Pakistan...

    Show me a single statement from them which was against Pakistan during their Govt

    Even they had said and they still say that We shall be with Pakistan if india or usa attacks Pakistan

    But just think now, in this bull**** war , Why the hell we supported usa against Afgahns???YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

    oh itnay PRO Pakistan thay kay they never acknowledged Durand LINE ? why ? baray pro pakistan..
    itnay pro pakistan thay kay pakistan kay civilians par hee suicide attack karnay lagay..beta tera koi un suicide attack main mara nai hai tabhi tu taliban ki himyat main itna phudkta hai , puch un logon say jin kay bachay shopping kartay kartay suicide attack main maray gya ...

    aur tum itnay ghairtmand bantay ho, tum jatay kyon nahin afghanistan aur laro taliban kay sath mill kar america kay khilaf ..yahan bongiyaan marnay aa jatay ho

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    oh itnay PRO Pakistan thay kay they never acknowledged Durand LINE ? why ? baray pro pakistan..
    itnay pro pakistan thay kay pakistan kay civilians par hee suicide attack karnay lagay..beta tera koi un suicide attack main mara nai hai tabhi tu taliban ki himyat main itna phudkta hai , puch un logon say jin kay bachay shopping kartay kartay suicide attack main maray gya ...

    aur tum itnay ghairtmand bantay ho, tum jatay kyon nahin afghanistan aur laro taliban kay sath mill kar america kay khilaf ..yahan bongiyaan marnay aa jatay ho
    mr ignorant...Tell me which afghan taliban came here???


    yahan jo kartay hain unk beej aap nay he boay hen in so called war of terror men..

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamamuslim View Post
    mr ignorant...Tell me which afghan taliban came here???


    yahan jo kartay hain unk beej aap nay he boay hen in so called war of terror men..
    People like Rao7 believe in only what saab bahadur tells them. Wait for a few more days; they will come up with some crafty statements to justify the change in their stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamamuslim View Post
    mr ignorant...Tell me which afghan taliban came here???


    yahan jo kartay hain unk beej aap nay he boay hen in so called war of terror men..
    koi nai aya ?aab teri jahalat par kya tabsra karon.. why dont u answer about Durand line ? tera wo haal hai ankhoon main ankheen dal kar jhot bol deta hai

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    I guess Joe Biden remmebered what their president Reagon had said about Taliban." Taliban are Equalent to our Founding Fathers".
    20 days Nato supply band hoi ha ur VP USA ka yea hal ho gaya ha.
    Another so-called super power lost a war in Afghanistan. 40 nations verses Afghan Taliban.
    Now they are trying to get settlement so they can have some permanent bases in Afghanistan.


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    Try to do some independent research man. Your comments are way out from reality.

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