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    Re: Ghamdi 11th January 2009

    Bhai ghamdi koi siyasi shaksiat to nahi hain jo politics section mein aap ne galti se upload kar dia hai

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    gahmadi was just promoting his ideology.
    which is the biggest cause of friction in the muslim world,
    that is change twisting islam to please the western masters.

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    Bhai ghamdi koi siyasi shaksiat to nahi hain jo politics section mein aap ne galti se upload kar dia hai
    Do u want to discuss the content of the Prog ??
    then do it.
    Don't tell me what & where to Post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmed107 View Post
    he was just promoting his ideology.
    which is the biggest cause of friction in the muslim world that is change islam to please the western masters.
    I have posted Aghaz with Aniq Ahmed, Live with talat, Musharaf, Dr Shahid Masood & so many other, so does it mean that am spreading their ideology??
    That's the main cause of our today's problem, we want only objections not the solutions
    Next time be careful while blaming others & going personal If you don't know than go & read rules of the section
    Got it ??
    Then enjoy otherwise am here to guide you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmed107 View Post
    he was just promoting his ideology.
    which is the biggest cause of friction in the muslim world that is change islam to please the western masters.
    Be specific, which argument or idea from Ghamdi Sb you think is causing friction or pleasing west masters, so that we also know about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoToRi0uS View Post
    Do u want to discuss the content of the Prog ??
    then do it.
    Don't tell me what & where to Post.
    Bhai aap to naraz hi ho gaye hain. mein ne to yeh kaha hai ke politics section mein ghamdi program ka kiya kaam kyun ke ghamdi sahab to khud kehte hain ke politics aur islam ko alehda alehda hona chahyie. woh to khud kehte hain ke pakistan ik secular state hai. islami programs bismillah , lekin kiya hi acha hai ke ik islami section banalein is se aap ki website mazeed khobsurat ho jaye gi aur is mein har aalim e deen ke programs shamil karlein kyun ke ghamdi sahab to khud kehte hain ke har aalim e deen ki baaat suno aur khud faisla karo.
    Bhai mere itna guroor acha nahi hota kyun ke ghamdi sahab to khud is baat se mana karte hain. yah phir aap ghamdi sahab ko follow nahi karte? mazarat ke saath

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    @ahmed107 .... yeh please highlight the arguments that would please westerns.... and give solid reasons also....I really want to know....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistani111 View Post
    Bhai aap to naraz hi ho gaye hain. mein ne to yeh kaha hai ke politics section mein ghamdi program ka kiya kaam kyun ke ghamdi sahab to khud kehte hain ke politics aur islam ko alehda alehda hona chahyie. woh to khud kehte hain ke pakistan ik secular state hai. islami programs bismillah , lekin kiya hi acha hai ke ik islami section banalein is se aap ki website mazeed khobsurat ho jaye gi aur is mein har aalim e deen ke programs shamil karlein kyun ke ghamdi sahab to khud kehte hain ke har aalim e deen ki baaat suno aur khud faisla karo.
    Bhai mere itna guroor acha nahi hota kyun ke ghamdi sahab to khud is baat se mana karte hain. yah phir aap ghamdi sahab ko follow nahi karte? mazarat ke saath
    There is a separate section for Ghamidi Sahab programs. This idea of placing all latest videos in common secton for couple of days is not bad. In this way you can find all latest videos at one place and then if you want more videos or older videos then you can go to specific section. I thought it was not complicated to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoToRi0uS View Post
    Do u want to discuss the content of the Prog ??
    then do it.
    Don't tell me what & where to Post.
    Thank you for posting it here. I believe Mr. Ghamidi's teachings are as relevant in political environment as they are in religious environment. His in depth research on religion, philosophy and other fields are very enlightening. He is educating our people to be tolerant and telling us how can all live together despite our differences. May Allah bless him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whaat View Post
    @ahmed107 .... yeh please highlight the arguments that would please westerns.... and give solid reasons also....I really want to know....

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    There is a separate section for Ghamidi Sahab programs. This idea of placing all latest videos in common secton for couple of days is not bad. In this way you can find all latest videos at one place and then if you want more videos or older videos then you can go to specific section. I thought it was not complicated to understand.
    Bhai aap ne to bari zabardast baat ki hai. is program ke saath saath aur bhi ulemaon ke program shamil karein bhai kyun ke ghamdi sahab to khud keh rahe they ke sab aalimon ki baat sunni chahiye aur phir faisla karna chahyie.

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    great program to watch..!

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    Ahmad Bai,Try to understand Ghamedi Sahib.This attitude of ours has got us to this stage.He always speaks of Dialouge.To me u seem an educated person and u must know that Positive disagreemnt always resulted in an improvement in research and so is true for the religious matters.Why u always suspect Ghamedi Sahib.U have the right to disagree with Ghamedi sahib but do,t consider him as the way our traditional alims do.He always invited others to come forward and prove him wrong with discussion and debate.
    Anyway the choice is urs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mel View Post
    great program to watch..!
    ghamdi sahab einstain aur newton ka naam lekar bari scincitific baatein karte hain, inko to science bhi ati hai. inko arastu ka naam bhi ata hai. yeh to khud science ke teacher bhi lag sakte hain government college mein mashallah.
    kiya hi maza ata agar ghamdi sahab aaj ke din gaza-israel larayi par koi waazeh baat bhi karte kyun ke jitne purane khiyalat ke ulema hain unho ne to bohat kuch kaha hai. umeedd hai ke woh agle program mein gaza walon ki support mein kuch kahein ge. gaza wale bhi musalman hain hamari tarah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoToRi0uS View Post
    I have posted Aghaz with Aniq Ahmed, Live with talat, Musharaf, Dr Shahid Masood & so many other, so does it mean that am spreading their ideology??
    That's the main cause of our today's problem, we want only objections not the solutions
    Next time be careful while blaming others & going personal If you don't know than go & read rules of the section
    Got it ??
    Then enjoy otherwise am here to guide you.
    sorry NoToRiOuS the comment was for gahamdi not your self, i am not for blocking any thing i like freedom of expression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSaleem View Post
    Ahmad Bai,Try to understand Ghamedi Sahib.This attitude of ours has got us to this stage.He always speaks of Dialouge.To me u seem an educated person and u must know that Positive disagreemnt always resulted in an improvement in research and so is true for the religious matters.Why u always suspect Ghamedi Sahib.U have the right to disagree with Ghamedi sahib but do,t consider him as the way our traditional alims do.He always invited others to come forward and prove him wrong with discussion and debate.
    Anyway the choice is urs.
    gahmadi's comments are always one sided, the side that is pleasing to the west, like someone else said why he dose not comment on Gaza and other zulim happening to muslims.
    Last edited by ahmed107; 01-12-2009 at 01:26 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    sorry NoToRiOuS the comment was for gahamdi not your self, i am not for blocking any thing i like freedom of expression.

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    gahmadi's comments are always one sided, the side that is pleasing to the west, like someone else said why he dose not comment on Gaza and other zulim happening to muslims.
    I think if he is giving his opinion or anyone putting his/her opinion then it is a one sided and that is why you are disagreeing with him. That is what he is exactly saying one can agree or disagree on any subject, response against him with your point of view and tell where he is wrong in this program.

    Like someone here (with a distinct but not required pinch of satire) mentioned he is not talking about Gaza, first of all the subject is not about Gaza it is a completely different subject, second he might have a argument about Gaza (which I am not aware of just saying for the sake of argument) which in your opinion not a correct or just one, then tell it is wrong because of some facts and points of view. But without knowing it we should not assume stuff.

    Finally we should not follow someone like a “pir” and let others to say their point of view and disagree, that is what the real essence of the discussion.

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    While reading some of the comments under this thread following questions arsied in my mind:

    1- Why Ghamidi Sb, didn't talk abt FATA and SWAT?
    2- Why Ghamidi Sb, didnt utter a single word for Iraq and Afghanistan?
    3- Why Ghamidi sb didnt mention sufferings of Dr. Afia?
    4- Why Ghamidi sb didnt talk abt the Mumbai attacks?
    5- List goes on and on and on.

    But when I listened the program I found out the topic of this program was "What is the role of Scholars in understanding religion?, and Ghamidi sb talked exactly on this" Afterwards I found myself really silly!

    Peace

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    I think if he is giving his opinion or anyone putting his/her opinion then it is a one sided and that is why you are disagreeing with him. That is what he is exactly saying one can agree or disagree on any subject, response against him with your point of view and tell where he is wrong in this program.

    Like someone here (with a distinct but not required pinch of satire) mentioned he is not talking about Gaza, first of all the subject is not about Gaza it is a completely different subject, second he might have a argument about Gaza (which I am not aware of just saying for the sake of argument) which in your opinion not a correct or just one, then tell it is wrong because of some facts and points of view. But without knowing it we should not assume stuff.

    Finally we should not follow someone like a pir and let others to say their point of view and disagree, that is what the real essence of the discussion.
    Bhai mein ne to tareef ki thi magar aap to bohat touchy ho gaye. mera poaint of view to yeh tha ke ghamdi sahab kitna kuch jaante hain aaj kal ke daur ke bare mein aur newton aur einstain ka naam lekar kitna impress karte hain. itni scicintific baatein to purane khiyalat wale ulema to nahi jaante. magar in purane khiyalat farsuda ulemaon ne aaj kal ka hot topic jo gaza hai us per isralion per bohat tanqeed ki hai aur apne programs aur apni taqreeron mein bohat tanqeed ki lekin ghamdi sahab ne tanqeed nahi ki. mein to keh raha hoon ke umeed hai ghamdi sahab ko gaza ki jang ka pata chal jaye ga aur woh is per baat karein ge. taake hum bhatke huye logon ko gaza masle ki asal baat quran aur hadis ki roshni mein pata lag jaye gi aur hum mustafeed ho jayein ge kyun ke purane khiyalat wale ulemaon ko trust nahi kiya ja sakta na. kiya pata woh isralion per galat tanqeed kar rahe hoon. yeh to ab ghamdi sahab hi faisla karein ge na.
    aap begair saboot ke mujh par please ilzam na lagayein kyun ke ghamdi sahab ne aisi baat karne se mana farmaya hai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fammy23 View Post
    While reading some of the comments under this thread following questions arsied in my mind:

    1- Why Ghamidi Sb, didn't talk abt FATA and SWAT?
    2- Why Ghamidi Sb, didnt utter a single word for Iraq and Afghanistan?
    3- Why Ghamidi sb didnt mention sufferings of Dr. Afia?
    4- Why Ghamidi sb didnt talk abt the Mumbai attacks?
    5- List goes on and on and on.

    But when I listened the program I found out the topic of this program was "What is the role of Scholars in understanding religion?, and Ghamidi sb talked exactly on this" Afterwards I found myself really silly!

    Peace
    Bhai aap to bohat saada tabiyat ke hamil lagte hain kyun ke meri baat ka maqsad yeh tha ke ghamdi sahab ko kisi din gaza ko bhi topic bana hi lena chayiye kyun ke aaj kal puri muasalman ummah mein gaza hot islamic topic hai. mein to bohat confuse hoon is masle par aur meri tarah jo bewakof ghamdi sahab ki zahanat se mustafeed hote hain humein bhi kuch pata chal jaye ga asal masle ka.
    baqi fata , iraq ya afghanistan aur afia aur mumbai ki to meinne baat hi nahi ki aap ne yeh kahan se parh liya please mujhe bhi parhain taake mujhe samajh aa jaye ke meri nazar kamzor hai aur mein apni nazar check kara loon. mazaaq kar raha hoon bhai naraz mat hona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmed107 View Post
    gahmadi's comments are always one sided, the side that is pleasing to the west, like someone else said why he dose not comment on Gaza and other zulim happening to muslims.
    really? can you please give an example where he is "pleasing the west"?

    As for the Gaza comment, this wasn't a program about Gaza but a question and answer session. If anyone had asked a question about it, he would have responded. Besides, he is a learned religious educator/teacher not a political leader.

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    really? can you please give an example where he is "pleasing the west"?

    As for the Gaza comment, this wasn't a program about Gaza but a question and answer session. If anyone had asked a question about it, he would have responded. Besides, he is a learned religious educator/teacher not a political leader.

    The whole program and the question & answers were just to pave the way and justification for his future programs of self style islam.
    He is always talking about terrorism, suicide bombers, extremists, women issues, this is all music to ears of Zionist, but he never talks about bombing of innocent women and children, state torture of prisoners or occupation of muslim lands ,plunder of resources, imposing pornography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CroissantLBV View Post
    really? can you please give an example where he is "pleasing the west"?

    As for the Gaza comment, this wasn't a program about Gaza but a question and answer session. If anyone had asked a question about it, he would have responded. Besides, he is a learned religious educator/teacher not a political leader.

    Bhai aap to bari achi angrezi bolte hain. kiya gaza ke log musalman nahi hain aur kiya is par sirf siyasat daan hi baat karein. sab se achi baat to ghamdi sahab jaise islami rahnuma hi kar sakte hain. mein to inki taraf dekhta hoon islami masle ke hal ke liye kyun ke agar musalmano ko mara jaye to yeh ik islami masla bhi hota hai.
    dosri baat aap ki achi lagi ke topic to gaza nahi tha. waise yeh baat kuch relevant to nahi lagti magar islami tareekh ka hissa hai is liye bata deta hoon bari mazahiya baat hai... jab halaku khan ne baghdad par hamla kiya to us waqt wahan ke aalim e deen kafi arse se kisi aur topic par bahas kar rahe they. janab us waqt tv thori tha jo unhe pata chal jata ke halaku halaak karne aa raha hai.

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